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Hilti Enaka
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.12.12 17:46:18 -
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I came across something today and thought i'd find out if this needed changing by asking you.
War decked a corp with the intention of catching an Orca. Orca pilot has left corp but still sits in belt with his crew. I saw a miner out in a belt and thought I'd go in for the kill. Upon arriving in the belt the target stored his ship in the orca and warped off. MEH.... Thought i'd wait with an alt spying watching for him to come back and reboard ship thinking there would be a delay on how quickly he could restore ship. I was happy to see him come back to belt and reboard his ship and jumped my toon into system and warped to belt. must have taken at least 10 seconds. upon arriving in belt the target restored his ship and warped off.
So yeah.... nice use of an pilot who used to be in the corp i war decked and is now immune in an NPC corp.
Thoughts? |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
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Posted - 2016.12.12 17:54:35 -
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Hmmmmmm... smart corp. Looks like they took a page out of the PvP corp's playbook. I tip my hat to them.
As long as the Orca is not taking an aggressive action against you or offering remote effects to it's allies, it cannot be touched.
How did you Veterans start?
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Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
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Posted - 2016.12.12 17:57:37 -
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thoughts? you are being outplayed pretty hard......
call CODE and gank the orca obviously when he store his ship in the orca |
Wanda Fayne
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Posted - 2016.12.12 18:08:32 -
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Same thing can be done with the Bowhead. Nothing new here.
your comments just confirms this whole idea is totally pathetic
-Lan Wang-
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
842
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Posted - 2016.12.12 18:17:58 -
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Since when could NPC corps wardec people? |
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
554
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Posted - 2016.12.12 18:59:03 -
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Soel Reit wrote:thoughts? you are being outplayed pretty hard...... call CODE and gank the orca obviously when he store his ship in the orca
Lack of Parking Permit?
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2016.12.12 19:19:30 -
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Nice whining on an NPC alt.
His tactic is legit.
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Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
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Posted - 2016.12.12 20:04:54 -
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So you're upset that pilots in NPC corporations don't have to deal with the consequences of being in player corps?
Do you see the irony in your own post? |
Hilti Enaka
State War Academy Caldari State
126
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Posted - 2016.12.12 20:14:28 -
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FYI - no one is moaning its a question to the community and FYI off topic trolls are being reported. |
Neuntausend
Rens Nursing Home
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Posted - 2016.12.12 20:22:14 -
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The whole topic should be in Crime & Punishment, not in GD, so I sure hope you reported yourself for off topic posting as well. Besides, reporting off topic posts in GD will usually only get the topic locked, so, if that's in your interest, just keep it up.
That aside, it's a legit tactic that has existed for about forever. It's a stupid mechanic, but effective. Just deal with it. As an idea, use a neutral bumper in a Machariel to bump the barge out of range before attacking, then jump in/log in your war hero and murder it. That will probably work only once or twice at best, but that's still more combat than you will get out of most miners during a war. |
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Hilti Enaka
State War Academy Caldari State
126
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Posted - 2016.12.12 20:27:02 -
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Neuntausend wrote:The whole topic should be in Crime & Punishment, not in GD, so I sure hope you reported yourself for off topic posting as well. Besides, reporting off topic posts in GD will usually only get the topic locked, so, if that's in your interest, just keep it up.
That aside, it's a legit tactic that has existed for about forever. It's a stupid mechanic, but effective. Just deal with it. As an idea, use a neutral bumper in a Machariel to bump the barge out of range before attacking, then jump in/log in your war hero and murder it. That will probably work only once or twice at best, but that's still more combat than you will get out of most miners during a war.
who made you forum queen. its a GD so hence why its in GD. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2016.12.12 20:33:07 -
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Good use of the mechanic.
It's a mechanic that most commonly benefits pvpers in highsec, so for a pve player to be using it effectively, good on him.
No change needed.
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Neuntausend
Rens Nursing Home
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Posted - 2016.12.12 20:35:28 -
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Hilti Enaka wrote:who made you forum queen. its a GD so hence why its in GD. Who made you forum Pope? All posts except the one in the quote and mine right now are on topic. You are derailing your own thread. :) |
Hilti Enaka
State War Academy Caldari State
126
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Posted - 2016.12.12 20:50:56 -
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Neuntausend wrote:Hilti Enaka wrote:who made you forum queen. its a GD so hence why its in GD. Who made you forum Pope? All posts except the one in the quote and mine right now are on topic. You are derailing your own thread. :)
absolutely no one but correct me if im wrong this is a general discussion thread. One I want to talk to other eve gamers about. There's no derailing going on here apart from you trying to be a smart ass. |
Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2016.12.12 21:48:42 -
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Wardec'ing miners never works. CODE's been saying that for years. |
Neuntausend
Rens Nursing Home
1227
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Posted - 2016.12.12 22:16:45 -
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Hilti Enaka wrote:absolutely no one but correct me if im wrong this is a general discussion thread. One I want to talk to other eve gamers about. There's no derailing going on here apart from you trying to be a smart ass. I am only reacting directly to remarks you made yourself. It's not my fault that they have nothing to do with your little highsec war, which is btw. a topic typically discussed in C&P. I could also see it fit in Warfare and Tactics, considering it's apparently a tactic used in warfare. |
Wanda Fayne
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Posted - 2016.12.13 04:54:22 -
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Hilti Enaka wrote:... trying to be a smart ass.
Better than a dumb one.
He actually gave you some good advice.
your comments just confirms this whole idea is totally pathetic
-Lan Wang-
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Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2016.12.13 05:38:20 -
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Hilti Enaka wrote:I came across something today and thought i'd find out if this needed changing by asking you.
War decked a corp with the intention of catching an Orca. Orca pilot has left corp but still sits in belt with his crew. I saw a miner out in a belt and thought I'd go in for the kill. Upon arriving in the belt the target stored his ship in the orca and warped off. MEH.... Thought i'd wait with an alt spying watching for him to come back and reboard ship thinking there would be a delay on how quickly he could restore ship. I was happy to see him come back to belt and reboard his ship and jumped my toon into system and warped to belt. must have taken at least 10 seconds. upon arriving in belt the target restored his ship and warped off.
So yeah.... nice use of an pilot who used to be in the corp i war decked and is now immune in an NPC corp.
Thoughts? Perfectly legitimate tactic, and actually an impressive one coming from a highsec mining corp.
Is no more or less a legitimate tactic than your being able to wardec multiple mining corps and chase after them in blingy combat ships.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
EvE is a PvP game. Stop pretending it isn't.
Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
isd community communications liaisons
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Posted - 2016.12.13 05:46:48 -
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Removed some off topic posts. Keep it civil and on topic. Thanks.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
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Cutter Isaacson
wiggle Tech. Pandamimic Legion
3131
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Posted - 2016.12.13 05:54:18 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Removed some off topic posts. Keep it civil and on topic. Thanks.
-ISD Forum Pope
They made you pope?
"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
isd community communications liaisons
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Posted - 2016.12.13 06:33:12 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Removed some off topic posts. Keep it civil and on topic. Thanks.
-ISD Forum Pope They made you pope?
Sounds catchy, doesn't it?
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Vice Admiral
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
3286
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Posted - 2016.12.13 09:02:01 -
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Soel Reit wrote:thoughts? you are being outplayed pretty hard...... call CODE and gank the orca obviously when he store his ship in the orca Actually this remembered me of some Orca gank we did and when we warped in the guy stored his Hulks in the Orca so they too ended up on the killmail. was pretty hilarious. Just shows this tactic can go both ways.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
1137
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Posted - 2016.12.13 09:04:58 -
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As a miner Ive used orca swapping in high sec to land kills on CODE and other gankers. The best is hot swapping to an instalock svipul and killing their spotter/clean up man when hes busy looting and salvaging. Makes them very butthurt.
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Cutter Isaacson
wiggle Tech. Pandamimic Legion
3132
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Posted - 2016.12.13 13:26:57 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Removed some off topic posts. Keep it civil and on topic. Thanks.
-ISD Forum Pope They made you pope? Sounds catchy, doesn't it?
Indeed it does. Also nice to see a familiar face.
"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
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Arden Elenduil
Unlimited Ripoff Works
448
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Posted - 2016.12.13 16:10:16 -
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So, bump the orca away from the miner? |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
19616
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Posted - 2016.12.13 18:35:54 -
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Brokk Witgenstein wrote:Wardec'ing miners never works. CODE's been saying that for years. That's because CODE. suck at war. Credit where it's due , code have flat out embarrassed us on at least one occasion before by clever use of a bastioned marauder,bumps and gridfu back when that was a thing (rip) But they suck at the whole war time opsec bit, The best they had at one point was when they collected a few of our dropouts into Black Hydra but even that didn't last.
Actually I remember a while back myself and feyd were chewing on a skiff next to a neutral orca which turned out to be a fleet Cane pretending to be a skiff and proceeded to belt the both of us, good fight.
No I don't think this needs changing because it's one of the few things Awarebears can do to surprise us.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3427
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Posted - 2016.12.19 07:35:36 -
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Arden Elenduil wrote:So, bump the orca away from the miner? Actually other way aroudn but yes you need to bump the mining ship hard and get into system and belt asap. try to keep it bumped more than 2.5km from the orca
To all the people saying it's good to see PvE users do this it shows your lack of knowledge on this subject. Miners have been using this pretty much forever. There are soooo many groups who do this on the regular and use tanked orca's to avoid as many ganks as possible. And props to them but as somebody who has abused the hell out of this mechanic for a long time it badly needs a rework imo. Storing while agressed/agressing, suspect or in a LE shouldn't be a thing. They changed it some time ago so you couldn't with the 1min wep timer but the rest does need a look over when they finally get around to looking at the highsec agression mechanics.
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Suicide Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.19 08:24:56 -
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Props on them for being that clever. As for you, NPC alt complaining about wardec mechnanics and being unable to kill miners. You'll excuse me while I shed a tear. There are lots of mechanics out there to deal with it to various degrees, bumping, aggress the miner faster, etc. or just Bump the Orca all day so they can't mine. Beyond that suck it up and find someone else, give them props for being smart. |
Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3427
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Posted - 2016.12.19 08:49:05 -
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Suicide Smith wrote:Props on them for being that clever. As for you, NPC alt complaining about wardec mechnanics and being unable to kill miners. You'll excuse me while I shed a tear. There are lots of mechanics out there to deal with it to various degrees, bumping, aggress the miner faster, etc. or just Bump the Orca all day so they can't mine. Beyond that suck it up and find someone else, give them props for being smart. All of this except agress them faster. Pointing/scraming does not stop one from stashing. This is how the PvP side also works and how with enough logi you can drop agression and stash all the things in a neutral orca/bowhead and bugger off in shuttles/pods. BAW were the first I saw to use this effectively back when i first started in eve uni and it's become widely used since. Hell I used to have one parked in Rens during my marmite days just incase I ran into somebody good enough to bump me off station
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Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta
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