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Agent Hunt3r
Callide Vulpis Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2016.12.13 13:43:04 -
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It's obviously up to CCP and they could close down EVE tomorrow if they wanted.
No one talks about WoW any more and others have pretty much fallen off the map or closed for good.
Many people are moving away from PC use and I've heard of some people playing on tablets which is good I suppose.
I personally would like to see TV adverts for EVE and maybe they should somehow get the game to run on Andoid and iOS tabs to get the kids hooked.
What prodded me to start thinking about this was the whole Alpha clone thing. A move to try to get back some subscribers perhaps?
What do you think the future of Eve is? |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
8331
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Posted - 2016.12.13 13:46:58 -
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Agent Hunt3r wrote:Many people are moving away from PC use...
You're gonna need to cite that, because the citation I have begs to differ. Strongly.
EVE has a lot of life in her if she's treated right. She is the single most unique gaming experience available right now for a very affordable price. Don't count her out just because you have personal concerns and think everyone else shares them. That's projection.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Cutter Isaacson
wiggle Tech. Pandamimic Legion
3133
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Posted - 2016.12.13 13:51:40 -
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Agent Hunt3r wrote:It's obviously up to CCP and they could close down EVE tomorrow if they wanted.
No one talks about WoW any more and others have pretty much fallen off the map or closed for good.
Many people are moving away from PC use and I've heard of some people playing on tablets which is good I suppose.
I personally would like to see TV adverts for EVE and maybe they should somehow get the game to run on Andoid and iOS tabs to get the kids hooked.
What prodded me to start thinking about this was the whole Alpha clone thing. A move to try to get back some subscribers perhaps?
What do you think the future of Eve is?
The future of EVE is exactly as it always has been. A niche game, played by a small (in the grand scheme of things) but incredibly devoted fanbase. As to your incorrect assertion that people are moving away from PC, you should probably look at the sales figures for NVIDIA and AMD gaming grade GPU's over the last few years. Here's a hint, the numbers aren't falling.
"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
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Demonspawn 666
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.12.13 13:53:05 -
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the future is so bright I gotta wear shades
Corp invites welcome!
I like blowing stuff up and talking cr@p.
Sense of humour and high tolerance to stupidity essential!
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Agent Hunt3r
Callide Vulpis Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2016.12.13 13:55:18 -
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http://fortune.com/2016/06/09/pc-sales-are-worse-than-you-think/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/gartner-report-pc-shipments-decline-eight-consecutive-months/
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/09/pc-sales-to-continue-decline-in-2016-idc.html
Just because a few extra graphics cards have been sold and some steam games, the overall trend is falling. |
Marcus Blackthorn
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.13 13:57:24 -
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Steam may disagree with the OP https://steamspy.com/ |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2016.12.13 13:59:04 -
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Agent Hunt3r wrote: Many people are moving away from PC
I must be so behind the times. I just dropped over 5k RL ISKies on a new rig to run EVE on a Predator X34 ultra wide 21:9 WQHD monitor. Though I'm still waiting for the new 1080ti to hit the market before I'm finished.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Cutter Isaacson
wiggle Tech. Pandamimic Legion
3133
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Posted - 2016.12.13 14:03:07 -
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You should probably learn the difference between the sales of expensive pre-builts, which is what all those are talking about, and the sales of GPU's. As for it just being "A few"...
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/239312-nvidia-absolutely-crushes-quarterly-earnings-first-2-billion-quarter
Sales are up 63% YOY. That's not "A few".
Also, from your own link:
Quote:JPR claims that while the market of desktop AIBs is shrinking, sales of expensive graphics cards used by gamers are increasing. GÇ£However, in spite of the overall decline, somewhat due to tablets and embedded graphics, the PC gaming momentum continues to build and is the bright spot in the AIB market,GÇ¥ said Jon Peddie, the head of JPR.
Try harder.
"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
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Marcus Blackthorn
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.13 14:05:54 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Agent Hunt3r wrote: *snip* Predator X34 ultra wide 21:9 WQHD monitor *snip*
Mr Epeen
Oh ....... now I know what I want for Christmas ..... |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
22315
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Posted - 2016.12.13 14:06:34 -
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As we will get Win10 emulating software on ARM processors soon, you could play EVE on your tablet with new ARM processor.
I dont know how long EVE will run, but I think it can run longer than most people think.
We have seen *EVE is dying* threads for more than 10 years and EVE managed to rise in numbers multiple times since then.
So its actually *news about my death have been greatly exaggerated* all this time.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
Osprey =ƒÜÇ
GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
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Cutter Isaacson
wiggle Tech. Pandamimic Legion
3133
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Posted - 2016.12.13 14:07:37 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Agent Hunt3r wrote: Many people are moving away from PC
I must be so behind the times. I just dropped over 5k RL ISKies on a new rig to run EVE on a Predator X34 ultra wide 21:9 WQHD monitor. Though I'm still waiting for the new 1080ti to hit the market before I'm finished. Mr Epeen
OP doesn't understand where the data they are quoting comes from, and doesn't grasp that it is talking entirely about the pre-built market, which is in decline because more and more people are building their own computers. Which is why Intel, AMD, and NVIDIA are all experiencing massive increases in sales despite the slow down in the pre-built market.
"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
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Marcus Blackthorn
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.13 14:10:26 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:You should probably learn the difference between the sales of expensive pre-builts, which is what all those are talking about, and the sales of GPU's. As for it just being "A few"... https://www.extremetech.com/computing/239312-nvidia-absolutely-crushes-quarterly-earnings-first-2-billion-quarter Sales are up 63% YOY. That's not "A few". Also, from your own link: Quote:JPR claims that while the market of desktop AIBs is shrinking, sales of expensive graphics cards used by gamers are increasing. GÇ£However, in spite of the overall decline, somewhat due to tablets and embedded graphics, the PC gaming momentum continues to build and is the bright spot in the AIB market,GÇ¥ said Jon Peddie, the head of JPR. Try harder. Agreed. It can be difficult to determine computer sales when more and more people are building their own now days and not buying store pre-builts.
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Lasisha Mishi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
129
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Posted - 2016.12.13 14:10:55 -
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PC isn't dying
consoles are dying yes as they've reached the limitation of their hardware already and haven't even progresse much through the current console generation's estimated life span
but thats no surprise. their CPU and GPU were already inferior to most PCs on launch.
as for mobile. thats a new market yes, but its not hurting the PC market at all. and overall, the mobile market is largely temporary. games pop up, get popular, and die fast
see pokemon go for proof of that. meteoric rise. and already falling fast.
and don't get me started on VR, many game devs are already coming out saying VR as it is now has no future in gaming. just a small sub market.
Overall, this year has been a largely quiet one for PC game releases, because as always all releases are in october, november, and december. so most studies haven't include the recent data.
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Cutter Isaacson
wiggle Tech. Pandamimic Legion
3133
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Posted - 2016.12.13 14:13:56 -
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Marcus Blackthorn wrote: Agreed. It can be difficult to determine computer sales when more and more people are building their own now days and not buying store pre-builts.
I know more than some about this, because until recently I ran a company that did precisely that. Now more and more people are turning to self builds, the number of people willing to pay the extra money out for a pre-built is dropping. None of which, of course, has any bearing whatsoever on PC gaming. Just because people don't buy a new GPU every 6 months, doesn't mean they've all gone off to play flappy sack on their iPads or something.
"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
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Agent Hunt3r
Callide Vulpis Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2016.12.13 14:15:48 -
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Well we'll just have to see I suppose. |
Gregorius Goldstein
Ze One Man Show
1146
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Posted - 2016.12.13 14:26:31 -
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Don't worry. No MMO will be shut down as long as the subs will pay for the servers plus some margin. What may happen at some point is that the game goes into maintenance mode, but EVE is quite the opposite of this IMHO. And I wouldn't be surprises if there would be a privat server run with donation once the Investors pull out in many, many years from now. |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
14988
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Posted - 2016.12.13 14:27:23 -
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Agent Hunt3r wrote:It's obviously up to CCP and they could close down EVE tomorrow if they wanted.
No one talks about WoW any more and others have pretty much fallen off the map or closed for good.
Many people are moving away from PC use and I've heard of some people playing on tablets which is good I suppose.
I personally would like to see TV adverts for EVE and maybe they should somehow get the game to run on Andoid and iOS tabs to get the kids hooked.
What prodded me to start thinking about this was the whole Alpha clone thing. A move to try to get back some subscribers perhaps?
What do you think the future of Eve is?
My answer is "I don't care". I've spent the last almost 10 years of my life playing EVE and the entire time I've watched people struggle with "EVE is dying" anxiety. Turns out that it's been going on wayyyy longer than I've been here. On top of that, EVERY online game suffers from players with the same kind of anxiety.
I think this happens because people are emotionally invested in the game and they think that if they can figure out when it's going to end they can ween themselves off beforehand and thus suffer less discomfort.
It ends when it ends, while it's a wonderful experience and led to me making lots of real friends, if the servers shut down tomorrow, life goes on. |
Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
771
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Posted - 2016.12.13 14:31:24 -
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Agent Hunt3r wrote:No one talks about WoW any more and others have pretty much fallen off the map or closed for good.
You must have been living under a rock then. Did you miss the Warcraft film they put out this past Summer? |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
22320
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Posted - 2016.12.13 14:34:08 -
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Gregorius Goldstein wrote:Don't worry. No MMO will be shut down as long as the subs will pay for the servers plus some margin. What may happen at some point is that the game goes into maintenance mode, but EVE is quite the opposite of this IMHO. And I wouldn't be surprises if there would be a privat server run with donation once the Investors pull out in many, many years from now. My thinking was the same. But we would need quite powerful servers, and a source code. Servers in future may not be such a problem, but source code may be. There was leak of it from 2007, so it would be not a game majority of players know for years.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
Osprey =ƒÜÇ
GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
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Skinnereal
Protagonists Of Doom
0
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Posted - 2016.12.13 14:37:45 -
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Keep playing the game. If there's an official announcement, you'll hear about it. Until then, keep playing the game.
Eve-Online is one of the better games at keeping updated. There is no need to go and buy the new patch packaged as an expansion. Graphics and other core components keep getting better. Players come and go, as they do in all games. New shinies come out all the time, but Eve is always there for when the shine has faded. |
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Hevymetal
POT Corp
439
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Posted - 2016.12.13 14:42:50 -
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Agent Hunt3r wrote:It's obviously up to CCP and they could close down EVE tomorrow if they wanted.
No one talks about WoW any more and others have pretty much fallen off the map or closed for good.
Many people are moving away from PC use and I've heard of some people playing on tablets which is good I suppose.
I personally would like to see TV adverts for EVE and maybe they should somehow get the game to run on Andoid and iOS tabs to get the kids hooked.
What prodded me to start thinking about this was the whole Alpha clone thing. A move to try to get back some subscribers perhaps?
What do you think the future of Eve is?
As long as it remains profitable to CCP, Eve will remain a viable entity and continue.
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
22321
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Posted - 2016.12.13 14:54:49 -
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Quote:The True Stories comic. Ironically, that story is just unbelievable. When I read it, I have an urge to say BS.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
Osprey =ƒÜÇ
GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
861
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Posted - 2016.12.13 15:16:26 -
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Eve is fine.
@lunettelulu7
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Sir Dude
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2016.12.13 15:34:40 -
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Eve is sociopath paradise...not closing anytime soon.
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Tremaine Holden
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.13 16:41:45 -
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I love threads like these because it typically shows how people often digest information without ever doing fact-checks Two or three sites post some info with some very vague citations from even vaguer research studies and people go running with it.
PC gaming is far from dead, and it won't be dead for a long time.
Computer parts are getting cheaper, games are becoming easier to run and more casual. P2P is a thing of yesterday and B2P then F2P with cash shop/RMT is the new wave.
Now moving forward, EVE will be around as long as it can sustain a profit. The death of a MMO is certainly a painful one, even harder to watch. Once CCP implements a feature freeze, and patches stop rolling in so quickly, that is when you should worry.
I had to watch my favorite MMO, twice, die. Age of Conan (was on life support, but will never be the same), and Warhammer Age of Reckoning. Its a really ****** experience.
Eve isn't about flying the biggest ship, or having the biggest guns. It's about finding something you love to do and doing it better. Gallente born. Guristas driven.
Gila "Amadeus"
Next in line: Rattlesnake
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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
256
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Posted - 2016.12.13 16:49:43 -
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Agent Hunt3r wrote:It's obviously up to CCP and they could close down EVE tomorrow if they wanted.
No one talks about WoW any more and others have pretty much fallen off the map or closed for good.
Many people are moving away from PC use and I've heard of some people playing on tablets which is good I suppose.
I personally would like to see TV adverts for EVE and maybe they should somehow get the game to run on Andoid and iOS tabs to get the kids hooked.
What prodded me to start thinking about this was the whole Alpha clone thing. A move to try to get back some subscribers perhaps?
What do you think the future of Eve is? Port the game to Android and iOS ... so that the kids get hooked ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc
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Kristal Rova
Ghost Nebula 237 Corporation
0
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Posted - 2016.12.13 16:55:07 -
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Tablet users would never learn how to play eve... so, no matter to eve if they don't have a pc. |
Mister Poopypants
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2016.12.13 20:08:20 -
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If CCP sells out to EA, I can see EA making stupid decisions that drive the userbase away, and can see the game disappearing in just a few short years. |
Lilith Sukarala
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.12.13 22:10:58 -
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I just got back on Eve from paying WoW and it's still pulling good numbers. WoW has a dedicated base just like Eve. It peaked back in Wrath of the Lich King at the 10 million sub mark but has gone up and down since then. The movie release of the summer didn't do as well in USA but was huge in China. |
DaReaper
Net 7 Cannon.Fodder
2917
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Posted - 2016.12.13 22:22:56 -
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Gregorius Goldstein wrote:Don't worry. No MMO will be shut down as long as the subs will pay for the servers plus some margin. What may happen at some point is that the game goes into maintenance mode, but EVE is quite the opposite of this IMHO. And I wouldn't be surprises if there would be a privat server run with donation once the Investors pull out in many, many years from now.
yup, the moment ccp or ccp's owner announces eve's closure i'll be kickstarting to raise money to buy the ip and or the server code and rebuild it. i know others will prolly beat me to it first though
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Eve For life.
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