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Maria Senseye
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.12.18 02:16:59 -
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From Ascension update, being in Jita is like playing on an old pc, everything lags out there ... can't align, warp, dock or fleeing in space without having a shuttering effect on camera and controls, warping to a celestial or station ? Nope! You could be teleported back to where you've started cause ... the server didn't tracked your movement due to high overload! If you undock to get out of that system ... somebody thinks that is a good ideea to fire some fireworks which renders 10fps!
Everything but EVERYTHING is fine outside Jita, even with highest quality settings, no lags, no fps drop ... but not in there! Before Ascension update we didn't had +1500 in system at any time, now we do ... and it's completely awful to be in the largest new eden market.
Defining Jita as a no fire zone would get off a large partion of the lag generation machine, we don't have something like this in the entire new eden ... and I'm sure it won't hurt. |
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.12.18 02:18:06 -
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- buy new pc - stop going jita - Use your brain instead! - Stop posting nonsense
- win? |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2016.12.18 02:25:16 -
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Maria Senseye wrote:Defining Jita as a no fire zone would get off a large partion of the lag generation machine, we don't have something like this in the entire new eden ... and I'm sure it won't hurt. No thanks.
I don't go to Jita often, but in all of New Eden it is unique. Amarr doesn't even come close as the next busiest trade hub.
That uniqueness has character and it's all player created. IMO, I'd rather Jita not just be forced to be like every other system. That uniqueness is a plus.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
11157
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Posted - 2016.12.18 02:29:10 -
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Maria Senseye wrote:Before Ascension update we didn't had +1500 in system at any time, now we do ... and it's completely awful to be in the largest new eden market.
Quote:Before Ascension update we didn't had +1500 in system at any time
Quote:we didn't had +1500 in system
Oh... you're serious?
In all seriousness... do the smart thing and turn off all graphics before going to that godforsaken system. Or go to a different trade hub.
How did you Veterans start?
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Glathull
Warlock Assassins
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Posted - 2016.12.18 02:36:16 -
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Yes. Jita is crappy because Ascension.
This makes total sense. This update broke EvE. Or Jita. Ot something.
CCPlease stop letting the alphas ****post here. It's bad enough already with only our regular subscribers ****posting.
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
1110
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Posted - 2016.12.18 02:51:59 -
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Brackets are a big one. Turning them off doesn't completely fix things where lag and such are concerned, but it helps quite a bit in places like Jita. Click on the overview options (Top left of overview, looks like a stack of horizontal lines) and select "Hide All Brackets" from the drop-down.
Turning off the sensor overlay may help too. That can be disabled by hovering your mouse over any part of the artificial compass that encircles your "HUD circle", I believe it's called, and clicking on the "On" button at the top of the drop-down that appears. That will remove all the sensor markers such as the brackets around landmarks and anom/sig site location in space.
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"----in' A, right?"
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Pix Severus
Empty You
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Posted - 2016.12.18 03:12:00 -
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Amarr Dodixie Rens Hek
Choose one.
They are all far more interesting than Jita (except when there's a riot going on) because you can actually hold a conversation there without being drowned-out by scam spammers.
If you know what you're doing market-wise, you won't miss Jita.
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
1143
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Posted - 2016.12.18 03:49:03 -
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lol....LOL.......LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL..... wait!! let me get my tear bucket.....
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
8444
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Posted - 2016.12.18 04:15:17 -
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There's no such thing as a no fire zone in EVE.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
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Omar Alharazaad
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3089
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Posted - 2016.12.18 04:39:16 -
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Ah, so good to be back.
Jita is crowded and laggy, so they should make it a no violence place so that it becomes even more crowded and laggy than before.
Sure, this makes sense.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Vortexo VonBrenner
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
2582
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Posted - 2016.12.18 05:06:50 -
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So, time to go to jita and get some fireworks and festival launchers, you say?
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2016.12.18 06:51:47 -
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I'll echo what everyone else has said, while adding that I've been to Jita many times since Ascension without any of the problems you seem to be having.
The industry window has been a real turd since then (facilities tab, especially), but it's not hard to see that they're likely related with the addition of ECs, and it's already been acknowledged in the issues threads.
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Natural CloneKiller
The Phoenix Rising Vendetta Mercenary Group
313
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Posted - 2016.12.18 07:55:33 -
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Maria Senseye wrote:From Ascension update, being in Jita is like playing on an old pc, everything lags out there ... can't align, warp, dock or fleeing in space without having a shuttering effect on camera and controls, warping to a celestial or station ? Nope! You could be teleported back to where you've started cause ... the server didn't tracked your movement due to high overload! If you undock to get out of that system ... somebody thinks that is a good ideea to fire some fireworks which renders 10fps!
Everything but EVERYTHING is fine outside Jita, even with highest quality settings, no lags, no fps drop ... but not in there! Before Ascension update we didn't had +1500 in system at any time, now we do ... and it's completely awful to be in the largest new eden market.
Defining Jita as a no fire zone would get off a large partion of the lag generation machine, we don't have something like this in the entire new eden ... and I'm sure it won't hurt. WoW.
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Aiwha
Infinite Point Test Alliance Please Ignore
1204
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Posted - 2016.12.18 08:30:08 -
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Your CPU is probably ancient. Turn down your settings or buy a new one.
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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Do Little
Virgin Plc Evictus.
635
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Posted - 2016.12.18 09:43:20 -
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I've recently been to Jita with over 2800 in system - worked fine. There is some lag but a lot better than the old days when traffic control would have stopped me in Perimeter!
Speaking of Perimeter, I'm now finding half the stuff I regularly purchase in Jita listed there at competitive prices - give that market a bit more time to mature and I may not need to go to Jita at all. |
Shayla Etherodyne
Delta Laroth Industries Voxis Accord
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Posted - 2016.12.18 09:59:03 -
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Maria Senseye wrote:From Ascension update, being in Jita is like playing on an old pc, everything lags out there ... can't align, warp, dock or fleeing in space without having a shuttering effect on camera and controls, warping to a celestial or station ? Nope! You could be teleported back to where you've started cause ... the server didn't tracked your movement due to high overload! If you undock to get out of that system ... somebody thinks that is a good ideea to fire some fireworks which renders 10fps!
Everything but EVERYTHING is fine outside Jita, even with highest quality settings, no lags, no fps drop ... but not in there! Before Ascension update we didn't had +1500 in system at any time, now we do ... and it's completely awful to be in the largest new eden market.
Defining Jita as a no fire zone would get off a large partion of the lag generation machine, we don't have something like this in the entire new eden ... and I'm sure it won't hurt.
I think it is more a problem linked to the citadel/engineering complexes. More markets in range, a good number of them with different rules, more science/production jobs (an the science interface has slowed down for a few days) and so on.
CCP don't like much "Jita the one trading hub", so they will not do something to enforce that position. While having every ganker and his grandmother waiting for targets in Jita is fairly annoying, it is part of the game. It will not change.
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Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
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Posted - 2016.12.18 10:22:42 -
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hmph, its not so bad......
Anybody remember 2011, when Jita was like TiDi x10 and pvp there was a guaranteed death for someone? |
Vigirr
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Posted - 2016.12.18 10:31:15 -
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OP, stop having dumb ideas. |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
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Posted - 2016.12.18 10:33:04 -
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Welcome back to the weekly Jita show .
Remove standings and insurance.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.12.18 11:06:57 -
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The client detects when you shitpost on an alt, and adjusts performance accordingly. You only have yourself to blame, you know
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2016.12.18 11:17:24 -
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Maria Senseye wrote:Defining Jita as a no fire zone ... and I'm sure it won't hurt. No.
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Tanuki Kittybeta
Ripperoni in Pepperoni Trigger Warnings
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Posted - 2016.12.18 11:40:09 -
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the moment jita isn't lagging is the moment i worry about this game |
Ravas Geloris
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.12.18 11:57:55 -
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how a normal person thinks : We have to adjust certain things here to make it better
How the veteran eve player thinks : CHANGE IS EVIL!!! EVERY CHANGE HAS TO BE STOPPED EVE HAS NOT TO CHANGE A SLIGHT BIT THIS IS MY GAME........
Get adult people.....change is not evil and a change to the more casual sight is necessary.....
All games around are used to be this way.....eve has to adapt to this.... |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1290
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Posted - 2016.12.18 12:10:19 -
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Ravas Geloris wrote:how a normal person thinks : We have to adjust certain things here to make it better
How the veteran eve player thinks : CHANGE IS EVIL!!! EVERY CHANGE HAS TO BE STOPPED EVE HAS NOT TO CHANGE A SLIGHT BIT THIS IS MY GAME........
Get adult people.....change is not evil and a change to the more casual sight is necessary.....
All games around are used to be this way.....eve has to adapt to this....
And yes that means non pvp flagging.....this won't hurt nobody...just these idiots that think firing on an unarmed ship is THE definition of "fun".....and its not a pity if those people leave the game......
not at all..... Casual gameplay has got nothing to do with the OPs proposal. Also you don't even have to be IN Jita to do stuff in Jita. Not unless you feel the need to spam local.
Remove standings and insurance.
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Ravas Geloris
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2016.12.18 12:13:41 -
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Mara Pahrdi wrote:Ravas Geloris wrote:how a normal person thinks : We have to adjust certain things here to make it better
How the veteran eve player thinks : CHANGE IS EVIL!!! EVERY CHANGE HAS TO BE STOPPED EVE HAS NOT TO CHANGE A SLIGHT BIT THIS IS MY GAME........
Get adult people.....change is not evil and a change to the more casual sight is necessary.....
All games around are used to be this way.....eve has to adapt to this....
And yes that means non pvp flagging.....this won't hurt nobody...just these idiots that think firing on an unarmed ship is THE definition of "fun".....and its not a pity if those people leave the game......
not at all..... Casual gameplay has got nothing to do with Jita. And you don't even have to be IN Jita to do stuff in Jita. Not unless you feel the need to spam local.
It's part of the whole problem if even a non fire zone post like this causes some people to jump you in the face bareassed.....
Some people think they own the game and every change has to argued over and that ccp has to ask THEM if it is allowed to change their property.....
THIS is the real problem.....a problem of self-awareness for some people..... |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2016.12.18 12:18:18 -
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Ravas Geloris wrote:
It's part of the whole problem if even a non fire zone post like this causes some people to jump you in the face bareassed.....
Some people think they own the game and every change has to argued over and that ccp has to ask THEM if it is allowed to change their property.....
THIS is the real problem.....a problem of self-awareness for some people.....
They really think they can FORCE ccp not to do things they want to......
Maybe this WAS so in the past....but NOT 2016.....no burning Jita 2 in these times...these times are over and this is good and right so
empty threats, lol....
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Ravas Geloris
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2016.12.18 12:23:13 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:Ravas Geloris wrote:
It's part of the whole problem if even a non fire zone post like this causes some people to jump you in the face bareassed.....
Some people think they own the game and every change has to argued over and that ccp has to ask THEM if it is allowed to change their property.....
THIS is the real problem.....a problem of self-awareness for some people.....
They really think they can FORCE ccp not to do things they want to......
Maybe this WAS so in the past....but NOT 2016.....no burning Jita 2 in these times...these times are over and this is good and right so
empty threats, lol....
Don't like the message so you have to devalue it so you can live on with your pinky pokemon eve dream.....?
Sad sad person you are......
I pity you....... |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
609
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Posted - 2016.12.18 12:34:08 -
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Ravas Geloris wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:Ravas Geloris wrote:
It's part of the whole problem if even a non fire zone post like this causes some people to jump you in the face bareassed.....
Some people think they own the game and every change has to argued over and that ccp has to ask THEM if it is allowed to change their property.....
THIS is the real problem.....a problem of self-awareness for some people.....
They really think they can FORCE ccp not to do things they want to......
Maybe this WAS so in the past....but NOT 2016.....no burning Jita 2 in these times...these times are over and this is good and right so
empty threats, lol.... Don't like the message so you have to devalue it so you can live on with your pinky pokemon eve dream.....? Sad sad person you are...... I pity you.......
same can be said about your post. you do't like the game mechanics and so you cry here in the forums, like a little child having his tantrums.
if you don't like the game, just quit man. it would be better for all of us. keep your stuff and include them when you biomass.
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Salvos Rhoska
1698
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Posted - 2016.12.18 12:39:36 -
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Ravas Geloris wrote:Don't like the message so you have to devalue it so you can live on with your pinky pokemon eve dream.....?
Sad sad person you are......
I pity you.......
What exactly are you suggesting be done?
That people can click an option and become immune to PvP?
That nobody can fire on anyone else in Jita?
Be specific.
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2016.12.18 12:47:50 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Ravas Geloris wrote:Don't like the message so you have to devalue it so you can live on with your pinky pokemon eve dream.....?
Sad sad person you are......
I pity you....... What exactly are you suggesting be done? That people can click an option and become immune to PvP? That nobody can fire on anyone else in Jita? Be specific. He wants the special kids hockey helmet, bubblewrap and crayons treatment.....just no window licking, hes beyond that one.
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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