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Jackship
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.12.23 22:35:20 -
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Is it too stupit thinking like thiis: gun, ammo, defence... ?
The new ghost fitting has improved the fitting efficiency, but don't you choose a gun first in high slot instead the Electonic Warfare? At least we should have a choise to switch the list order like this. All I am saying is try to help EVE getting more efficient to play. I believe even for the old players this old "unique" rules waist their time, not even mention new players how frustrated when they try to figure out where is what. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.12.23 22:38:24 -
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watGäó
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Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
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Posted - 2016.12.23 23:04:15 -
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Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2016.12.23 23:17:56 -
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Could not understand the point OP is trying to make. I'd suggest finding an actual english speaker and not relying on google translate.
Nearest I can tell is that OP has issue with the ghost fitting system, to which I respond with the standard reply.
If you want more advanced features, use the more advanced third party tools.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
EvE is a PvP game. Stop pretending it isn't.
Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
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Posted - 2016.12.24 01:40:53 -
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My guess: In ghost fitting you can filter the module selection at the left side after slots.
Answer: its in alphabetic order.
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Miriam Beckstein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.12.24 02:05:57 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:Could not understand the point OP is trying to make. I'd suggest finding an actual english speaker and not relying on google translate.
I think his point is that when you use the simulated fitting, the list of things you can fit appears in exactly the same order as it does on the market, i.e. alphabetically by the heading. Since 'Turrets & Bays' does not appear at the top of the list, I assume he wants the entire English language redesigned so that T is the new first letter of the alphabet, and the guns therefore get their rightful place at the top of the list. |
Wanda Fayne
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Posted - 2016.12.24 02:20:14 -
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Miriam Beckstein wrote:Iain Cariaba wrote:Could not understand the point OP is trying to make. I'd suggest finding an actual english speaker and not relying on google translate. I think his point is that when you use the simulated fitting, the list of things you can fit appears in exactly the same order as it does on the market, i.e. alphabetically by the heading. Since 'Turrets & Bays' does not appear at the top of the list, I assume he wants the entire English language redesigned so that T is the new first letter of the alphabet, and the guns therefore get their rightful place at the top of the list.
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:watGäó
Apparently you need to put a 'T' before that, Ralph.
your comments just confirms this whole idea is totally pathetic
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2016.12.24 02:52:27 -
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Miriam Beckstein wrote:Iain Cariaba wrote:Could not understand the point OP is trying to make. I'd suggest finding an actual english speaker and not relying on google translate. I think his point is that when you use the simulated fitting, the list of things you can fit appears in exactly the same order as it does on the market, i.e. alphabetically by the heading. Since 'Turrets & Bays' does not appear at the top of the list, I assume he wants the entire English language redesigned so that T is the new first letter of the alphabet, and the guns therefore get their rightful place at the top of the list.
Actually I'm pretty sure this is a clever dig at the seemingly random order the skill groups on the character sheet now have.
+1 OP..
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
Also, iderno
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Jackship
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.12.24 02:54:34 -
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Mark O'Helm wrote:My guess: In ghost fitting you can filter the module selection at the left side after slots.
Answer: its in alphabetic order.
It's not exactly alphabetic order though. The GÇ¥structuresGÇ£ is on the bottom of the list. My point is why alphabetical ordern+ƒ Isn't gun first make more sense? |
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
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Posted - 2016.12.24 03:12:21 -
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Jackship wrote:Mark O'Helm wrote:My guess: In ghost fitting you can filter the module selection at the left side after slots.
Answer: its in alphabetic order. It's not exactly alphabetic order though. The GÇ¥structuresGÇ£ is on the bottom of the list. My point is why alphabetical ordern+ƒ Isn't gun first make more sense? Not if you fly a logistic ship. Or a hauler. Or a mining barge. ...
Structures are not ship related. Just a guess.
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Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher.
Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)
"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
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Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2016.12.24 03:31:59 -
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They need to implement a Siri for the ghost fitting window, so you can "Siri, what is the best fitting for my ship?" and have it do it for you. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.12.24 03:36:37 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:They need to implement a Siri for the ghost fitting window, so you can "Siri, what is the best fitting for my ship?" and have it do it for you. no because knowing ccp and acronyms itl be called Eichmann or something equally unsettling, remember isis?
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Miriam Beckstein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.12.24 03:56:50 -
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Jackship wrote:Mark O'Helm wrote:My guess: In ghost fitting you can filter the module selection at the left side after slots.
Answer: its in alphabetic order. It's not exactly alphabetic order though. The GÇ¥structuresGÇ£ is on the bottom of the list. My point is why alphabetical ordern+ƒ Isn't gun first make more sense?
Top level of the list has ship equipment ahead of structures. Not sure why structures is appearing on the simulated fitting window though. What structures are there that you can fir to a ship?
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Avaelica Kuershin
Signal Cartel
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Posted - 2016.12.24 03:56:51 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:They need to implement a Siri for the ghost fitting window, so you can "Siri, what is the best fitting for my ship?" and have it do it for you.
Oh, what a good idea. Naturally it would annoy many people and they'd then come here to complain that Siri fit for PVP when they wanted a PVE fit (and vice versa)
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Marcus Binchiette
Pyrotech Creations
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Posted - 2016.12.24 04:26:21 -
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Jackship wrote:Is it too stupit when you fit your ship thinking like thiis order: gun, ammo, defence... ?
The new ghost fitting has improved the fitting efficiency, but in high slot the Electonic Warfare still on the top of the item list instead of any guns. n+êit's kind of alphabetical ordern+ë
Yes, there is third party tools. But isn't more convenient and satisfied that if palyers could find their guns at first place in the game?
You don't have to fit the modules in the order as presented in the item list. Item categories are listed in alphabetical order and you will find weapons under "Turrets and Bays". You can fit the guns first if you wish. Sorry for blowing your mind. |
mkint
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Posted - 2016.12.24 04:45:48 -
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Anyone wanna tell OP about the filters? Or should we keep that secret for the EVEluminati?
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.12.24 05:07:05 -
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mkint wrote:Anyone wanna tell OP about the filters? Or should we keep that secret for the EVEluminati? phSSSSSSSSHHH! WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT IT!
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Jackship
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.12.24 05:57:29 -
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Fitting probably is first thing and the most important thing to do when you fly a ship. That's why I am digging this details.
My point is the aphabetic order may not the most efficient way tor fitting. The new fitting system has different filters is try to improve fitting efficiency. Isn't more convenient find gun on the top of the list? This small changes may gives even better experience for new players.
If aphabetic order mean so much to you then keep it. I am asking there is more choices, maybe a custom order list option.
By the way, what's the first thing pop up in your mind when you fittingt your ship by yourself?(except copy others or using a third party tools)
It's OK to laugh and blow my mind if you have more ideas make EVE even better. Merry Christmas! |
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
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Posted - 2016.12.24 06:07:44 -
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There are a bazzillion possibilitys to fit a ship in eve and he still asks for more choices.
"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen.
Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher.
Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)
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Andreve en Distel
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2016.12.24 06:10:48 -
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So here's the thing. Not everyone starts with guns to fit their ship. Maybe you do, but a lot of people don't. So it makes NO sense at all to reorder how things are listed based on a percentage of the population's habits. Personally, I think they should put Hull and Armor first, that's where I frequently start my fit. Do you? No? So would it be helpful in any way to you if we rearranged things to best suit my habit? I don't think your answer is going to be yes... |
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.24 06:16:45 -
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Avaelica Kuershin wrote:Memphis Baas wrote:They need to implement a Siri for the ghost fitting window, so you can "Siri, what is the best fitting for my ship?" and have it do it for you. Oh, what a good idea. Naturally it would annoy many people and they'd then come here to complain that Siri fit for PVP when they wanted a PVE fit (and vice versa)
No they would complain cause all Eichmann would fit for you is **** fits.
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Wanda Fayne
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Posted - 2016.12.24 06:18:36 -
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Jackship wrote:Fitting probably is first thing and the most important thing to do when you fly a ship. That's why I am digging this details.
My point is the aphabetic order may not the most efficient way tor fitting. The new fitting system has different filters is try to improve fitting efficiency. Isn't more convenient find gun on the top of the list? This small changes may gives even better experience for new players.
If aphabetic order mean so much to you then keep it. I am asking there is more choices, maybe a custom order list option.
By the way, what's the first thing pop up in your mind when you fittingt your ship by yourself?(except copy others or using a third party tools)
It's OK to laugh and blow my mind if you have more ideas make EVE even better. Merry Christmas!
Ships & Modules is a good place to ask about ship fitting.
Merry Christmas to you.
your comments just confirms this whole idea is totally pathetic
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Alasdan Helminthauge
HC-Nightshade
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Posted - 2016.12.24 08:49:55 -
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You won't lose the efficiency if you're familiar enough with the fitting windows. I can get my mouse to the "Turrets & Bays" without looking at the screen. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2016.12.24 09:07:48 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:watGäó
FYI the "Wat?" woman passed away recently.
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Rain6637
NulzSec
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Posted - 2016.12.24 10:47:39 -
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you mean the internet meme person, not our EVE wat player
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Jackship
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.12.24 21:08:02 -
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Andreve en Distel wrote:So here's the thing. Not everyone starts with guns to fit their ship. Maybe you do, but a lot of people don't. So it makes NO sense at all to reorder how things are listed based on a percentage of the population's habits. Personally, I think they should put Hull and Armor first, that's where I frequently start my fit. Do you? No? So would it be helpful in any way to you if we rearranged things to best suit my habit? I don't think your answer is going to be yes...
So It depends. For most new player put gun first is reasonable. Well, that is not my point though.
To make a little change like customizable order for fitting wouldn't hurt and it could be win win. Why not? |
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