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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.01.02 03:45:41 -
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Gravitas Deficit wrote:
What is the justification for armor tanked T1 frigates costing twice as much as shield tanked ones?
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.01.02 03:50:52 -
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Gravitas Deficit wrote:A bit of searching revealed that the drop rates for the BPC were increased on December 13. So far this appears to have had no effect whatsover as average prices in Jita have increased from about 5m to 5.5m.
Maybe they would have been over 10 Million if CCP had not increased the DR.
It is Christmas time and lots of kids home from school for the holidays. Also lots of employed folks with more time off. Drop rates are not the only thing affecting price.
Edit: A smart player would see an opportunity to make isk here not an opportunity to whine. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.01.02 15:29:36 -
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Loreen Parker wrote: But whatever the reason is, it hurts T1 frig pvp and ccp should do something about it.
CCP give us a sandbox and allows us to do what we want with it.
I will tell you that if CCP is to take any further action on this it will likely be to nerf the module. That is how CCP does things. If too many people are using one specific ship or module they nerf it until it's use fall more in line with similar items.
So you might want to watch yourself before you start begging for CCP to do something as you might get what you are asking for, which is to nerf the thing so hard it's usage drops to a small fraction of what it is now. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.01.02 15:50:43 -
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Gravitas Deficit wrote:CCP agrees that there is a problem that must be fixed (as seen from their unsuccessful intervention in December).
I don't see how you can say that "CCP agrees that there is a problem" just because they increased the DR. For all that you know that could have been an experiment to see what happened to use and pricing before making another move.
When CCP introduced these modules a few years back they intentionally made them BPCs that drop instead of BPOs that you buy off of the market like everything else. One of the stated reasons was so that they could control supply and use that as a balancing factor.
So I don't see how them following the original plan and using drop rates as a balancing factor is them admitting there is a problem. If anything that would indicate everything is working well.
Gravitas Deficit wrote: So spare me this talk about wanting rolls royces, having a bad attitude, etc. This is hurting armor tanked frigate pvp. There is no reason why certain fits should be at such a disadvantage.
The module must be very very powerful or you would not want it so much. So if the module is more powerful and more expensive that is not disadvantaging the fit. That is bringing balance to the situation.
I could make the same argument about officer mods and that they are too high in price and CCP must do something about the DR to make prices "reasonable" so that it doesn't hurt PvP. My argument would be no more valid than yours.
So yes you do have a "bad attitude" in the sense that it is one that does not work well in this game or more to the point flies in the face of very core concepts of this game and therefore is a poor choice of frame to come from.
I have no experience with the SAAR personally but from the sounds of the whinning about their price, to me, it sounds like you most certainly are looking for faction module power at standard T1 module pricing, or to fit the context here Rolls Royce performance at Chevy pricing.
Just as a note to how CCP typically acts: I am fairly certain that the office coffee maker at CCP HQ uses player tears to brew their morning get-up-and-go. CCP loves the tears of whinny, self entitled cry babies. So I say cry more, the if the devs read it they are likely to nerf the crap out of the SAARs like I stated in a previous post. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2017.01.02 18:10:16 -
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Gravitas Deficit wrote: The vehemence with which some posters smear me for inquiring into this price anomaly is also unusual. The EVE community is normally friendly.
The Eve community is very helpful with players looking for advice on how to improve their playstyle. If you came in here and were looking for an affordable fit that did not use SAARs because of the current high price or were looking for help in figuring out where they are more likely to drop or even were looking for understanding as to why they are so expensive, then you would have likely gotten plenty of help.
The Eve community has always been brutal to self-entitled cry babies who are looking for CCP to change mechanics to suit them. Eve has always been and "adapt or die" kind of game. Figuring out more effective was to do things is a huge part of this game. If you continue to refuse to adapt and overcome but instead what to whine and insist CCP dumb the game down for you then you will continue to be berated here.
It would even have been ok if you were asking about drop rates and usage here. The problem started with the title of your post which was "Dear CCP, could you do something...." That is where you went wrong and until that attitude changes the hostile attitude from posters like me won't change either. |
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