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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
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Posted - 2017.01.02 16:14:45 -
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Loreen Parker wrote:but as i said i actively hunting for them, even more so since this anouncement and i found none.
Never went out to look for these but I do know that some BPC are more likely to drop from a specific NPC race. Moving around and trying your luck in all four major factions space would be a wise thing to do in this case.
Drop rates are often misinterpreted or outright misunderstood. As an example if an item has a drop rate of 1 in 50 that does not mean that you will get one for every 50 items that you find. As an example a corp mate has been running Sanshas sites recently and has had several armor reps drop, I have been running Sanshas sites in the same area for more than a year and never had an armor rep drop.
There seems to be quite the supply of these as well, at the time I write this and using EvE Central as the source there are more than 700 of them for sale at Jita 4/4 Assembly Plant station alone and likely there are more than 1,500 of them available in the markets of EvE as a whole. Yes I counted Jita and stopped at 700, the rest of EvE I am guessing at base on the numbers listed. So it is obvious that supply has very little to do with the price of this specific module, could it be that those who are selling them understand their worth to those of you who frigate PvP and are simply profiting from your wants / needs? |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
3252
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Posted - 2017.01.02 16:33:04 -
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Personally I would like to understand where exactly are the sources of the BPCs ...
I was a passionate explorer for about 2 years, running relic sites in Sansha space, and the majority before the first data site balance. I've checked, and have found zero SAAR BPCs, but still have a ton of worthless shield and medium BPCs. Maybe we are looking in the wrong places? Is there a racial flavor like with the famous intact armor plates?
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Gravitas Deficit
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2017.01.02 17:05:11 -
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Donnachadh wrote:There seems to be quite the supply of these as well, at the time I write this and using EvE Central as the source there are more than 700 of them for sale at Jita 4/4 Assembly Plant station alone and likely there are more than 1,500 of them available in the markets of EvE as a whole. Yes I counted Jita and stopped at 700, the rest of EvE I am guessing at base on the numbers listed. So it is obvious that supply has very little to do with the price of this specific module, could it be that those who are selling them understand their worth to those of you who frigate PvP and are simply profiting from your wants / needs?
The number of SAARs traded per day in The Forge alone is about 1600. So this is very little supply! It could be a sign that something isn't quite right.
The vehemence with which some posters smear me for inquiring into this price anomaly is also unusual. The EVE community is normally friendly. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1816
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Posted - 2017.01.02 18:10:16 -
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Gravitas Deficit wrote:
The vehemence with which some posters smear me for inquiring into this price anomaly is also unusual. The EVE community is normally friendly.
The Eve community is very helpful with players looking for advice on how to improve their playstyle. If you came in here and were looking for an affordable fit that did not use SAARs because of the current high price or were looking for help in figuring out where they are more likely to drop or even were looking for understanding as to why they are so expensive, then you would have likely gotten plenty of help.
The Eve community has always been brutal to self-entitled cry babies who are looking for CCP to change mechanics to suit them. Eve has always been and "adapt or die" kind of game. Figuring out more effective was to do things is a huge part of this game. If you continue to refuse to adapt and overcome but instead what to whine and insist CCP dumb the game down for you then you will continue to be berated here.
It would even have been ok if you were asking about drop rates and usage here. The problem started with the title of your post which was "Dear CCP, could you do something...." That is where you went wrong and until that attitude changes the hostile attitude from posters like me won't change either. |
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
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Posted - 2017.01.02 22:39:29 -
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Gravitas Deficit wrote:
The number of SAARs traded per day in The Forge alone is about 1600. So this is very little supply! It could be a sign that something isn't quite right.
The vehemence with which some posters smear me for inquiring into this price anomaly is also unusual. The EVE community is normally friendly.
1600 per day isn't very little supply unless the sell orders are empty. If there are more than enough sell orders to handle the daily throughput, then supply exceeds demand.
Trust me, you aren't being smeared with anything approaching vehemence. We are being nice because this is NQ&A. Post this thread in General Discussion and we'll tell you what we really think.
First of all, you didn't inquire into this price anomaly. The op title is a call for change. The body of the op does not make a rational pro vs. con argument. It just points out a disparity. There is nothing in the language of the op in the nature of an inquiry.
Because you don't seem to understand what an inquiry is, I'll make an example:
Quote:Thread title: Disparity between SAAR and SASB
Body:"At 6-7 mil, they can easily make up half the cost of a well fitted T1 frigate. A small ancillary shield booster costs 34k. Why is there a difference?
This is an inquiry.
What you posted is a whine.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Morgan Agrivar
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
762
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Posted - 2017.01.03 01:53:27 -
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The SAAR is awesome, which is why it is selling really high.
The SASB sucks and isn't worth the effort to put on a T1 PvP frigate.
That might be why...
Also surprised you haven't complained about the price of Nanite Repair Paste while you were at it... |
mkint
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Posted - 2017.01.03 02:02:30 -
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Given the content of the OP, this thread should be in F&I, not NCQ&A.
Maxim 6. If violence wasnGÇÖt your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
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Mala Zvitorepka
A.I.R.
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Posted - 2017.01.03 13:22:36 -
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Midslots are generally worth more than lows on frigs.
Plus SAAR is great and SASB isn't.
Plus you can fit MASB on many frigs which is way better than SASB. |
Major Trant
Mass Collapse
It Must Be Jelly Cause Jam Don't Shake
1560
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Posted - 2017.01.03 14:07:56 -
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The reason why there is a such a difference between the SAAR and SASB is that Shield modules tend to be fitted one size up for the ship. So a well fit shield tanked Frigate typically fits a MASB, Medium Shield Extender or Medium Shield Booster. The small versions of these modules are absolutely useless. This is a result of the fitting requirements of the relevant modules and possibly where CCP went wrong.
So a better comparison would be the SAAR against the MASB, the latter is about 1.5M in Jita, but can be cheaper elsewhere. Still a bit of a difference, but not as extreme and reflects the fact that Active Armor tanked frigates are more common than Active Shield tanked frigates.
If CCP need to fix anything, they should revamp their shield lineup to give the small modules the stats of the mediums, mediums the stats of the large, and the large better stats (with higher fitting costs of course). Because at the moment, you have Shield Frigates with mediums mods, Shield Cruiser/BCs with large mods and Shield BS just don't have a decent local shield option. |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
2605
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Posted - 2017.01.03 16:11:55 -
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OP, I propose a deal for you. I will contract you a small ancillary repairer if you copy and paste this post with the exact same title and make it a post in the general discussion subforum of the EvE forums. I will give you a million isk bonus if you leave it up intact until it goes off the first page. What say you?
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