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SATAN
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.04.16 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: Laboratus
Originally by: putukas Edited by: putukas on 16/04/2007 05:51:18 how the hell you can lose 9 bs to 2 ravens. Either BE have "Boosted by the CCP" ravens or FREGE went for bandwagon and warped in one by one.
well done BE.
Not difficult really. If you've fought em you learn it fast. I've fought them a few times in Pure Blind. They don't shy away from 5vs 50 fights or so. Larger groups just provide more targets. Usually they look for ships that have veered away from the main group. Drop a bubble on the target and start to pound it while using some sort of ew or just range to keep the opposing main damage dealers from making use of their ships. However, looking at the BE killboard, I can only say two things: When do you sleep? The slaughter in N-real lasted for a good 15h and is several pages long on the kb. Or rather went on for a few days. And how much did you get in loot?
Loot from N-R is being sold as we speak, so I have no idea on the isk value yet.
But the loot from m-o/p3 set a new record for us 12.5 bil in 11 days. We are hopping the N-R run proves to be anywhere near that good.
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SATAN
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.04.16 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: Osidax
Originally by: Ballping
Quote: what are you talking about on their terms! Frege always sends ridiculously huge gangs to attack invaders... and doesnt leave them alone either. every time i come up to ngm-ok there are over 60 pilots who react to my one interceptor or thorax! how BE didnt get that special attention astonishes me... however you're kidding yourself to say they engaged on their terms alone. Even with their tactics if you had been attacking them properly you should have won. 27 - 4 is hardly a fair fight.
Honestly man, do you come into someone's home system and expect a fair fight? You're not looking for a fair fight when you come there solo, you're looking for some quick ganks, in the same token if people see a hostile in their home turf of course their gonna come out in force and defend "the turf".
As far as BE i actually applaud them. They've found a game mechanic thier taking advantage of. So far there doesn't seem to be any counter to it hence they manage to rack up some kills against us. If they like sitting for hours in our system just to get a few kills at a time when we are unable to respond all the more power to them. Eventually we will find a counter to their tactics and we'll drive them out just like everyone else that has entered our system to grief us. /shrug. It's just another day in EVE.
Haha I suppose you will learn but as soon as you find a 'counter' they will all log or sit in a safe cloaked until the 'counter' goes away. They are out for ganks and thats it. They are not there to 'Fight'. A properly setup frig swarm is always a good counter if not fun at the same time. But when you do watch them fade into background.
Figures that an alt would make this comment.
Whats the matter, a bit nervous to make such claims with your real char?
I am still curios how 4vs40 or so in this case is a gank?
PS. The frig fleet idea has been attempted many times before, most recently by ASCN before their demise.
All I can say is they lost a lot of frigs.
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Minigin
Zephyr Enterprises Inc. Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.04.16 08:27:00 -
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i just had i fight with FREGE 30 mins ago and im now publicly doubting your exploits!
the only reason for this is that ive noticed frege tends to fit alot of wcs. several times we had 2 or even 3 warp scram points and the targets simply warped away right under our noses.
furthermore... they bring such a huge number of people to kill you it generates sooooooooo much lag that i dont think any of you where able to lock lol.
seriously now. i admire your achievement more and more everytime i raid FREGE.
good job... and teach me your ways!
Your signature <----- My awsome Sig
face it... my smack is soooooooo much better than yours! |
Phantom Phenix
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.16 08:29:00 -
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Edited by: Phantom Phenix on 16/04/2007 08:30:28 By the looks of it, Burn Eden takes this game way too seriously to the point where its beyond fun...can u say obsessive. Its a damn game ffs, get a life and let everyone enjoy the game instead being a group of selfish ass*****.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.04.16 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Phantom Phenix By the looks of it, Burn Eden takes this game way too seriously to the point where its beyond fun...can u say obsessive. Its a damn game ffs, get a life and let everyone enjoy the game instead bieng a group of selfish ass*****.
Calling eachother nerds in internet spaceship world ITT
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Minigin
Zephyr Enterprises Inc. Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.04.16 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Phantom Phenix Edited by: Phantom Phenix on 16/04/2007 08:30:28 By the looks of it, Burn Eden takes this game way too seriously to the point where its beyond fun...can u say obsessive. Its a damn game ffs, get a life and let everyone enjoy the game instead being a group of selfish ass*****.
ok so because you lost and they won... they are total nerdzorz and you are coolzorz?
moreso how is them beating your ass selfish?
grow up and lern how to lose.
Your signature <----- My awsome Sig
face it... my smack is soooooooo much better than yours! |
Phantom Phenix
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.16 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Phantom Phenix Edited by: Phantom Phenix on 16/04/2007 08:30:28 By the looks of it, Burn Eden takes this game way too seriously to the point where its beyond fun...can u say obsessive. Its a damn game ffs, get a life and let everyone enjoy the game instead being a group of selfish ass*****.
ok so because you lost and they won... they are total nerdzorz and you are coolzorz?
moreso how is them beating your ass selfish?
grow up and lern how to lose.
Your clearly not reading all the posts, They came, we fought, we lost, I know that but thats not the point I'm trying to make. They've beaten us and we've sustained heavy losses, I was trying to figure out why after they "won", they are still hanging around.
Btw on that note I noticed that there are only one person currently online, if the others left then good, if they just logged off then refer to my other post.
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Heinky
Amarr BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.04.16 09:22:00 -
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We dont like frege ?
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ghosttr
Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.16 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Minigin i just had i fight with FREGE 30 mins ago and im now publicly doubting your exploits!
the only reason for this is that ive noticed frege tends to fit alot of wcs. several times we had 2 or even 3 warp scram points and the targets simply warped away right under our noses.
furthermore... they bring such a huge number of people to kill you it generates sooooooooo much lag that i dont think any of you where able to lock lol.
seriously now. i admire your achievement more and more everytime i raid FREGE.
good job... and teach me your ways!
Yes, our 7 man gang was sooo much bigger than your 5 man one. Always happy to mail you guys back home.
On another note we finished the day with minimal losses, and managed to take down 2 BE bs (fully t2 fitted, and probably rigged aswell, estimated costs around 500m each), and im sure we got a few of your alts aswell. Good fight and i hope to be mailing the rest of you home tomorrow.
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Minigin
Zephyr Enterprises Inc. Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.04.16 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: ghosttr
Originally by: Minigin i just had i fight with FREGE 30 mins ago and im now publicly doubting your exploits!
the only reason for this is that ive noticed frege tends to fit alot of wcs. several times we had 2 or even 3 warp scram points and the targets simply warped away right under our noses.
furthermore... they bring such a huge number of people to kill you it generates sooooooooo much lag that i dont think any of you where able to lock lol.
seriously now. i admire your achievement more and more everytime i raid FREGE.
good job... and teach me your ways!
Yes, our 7 man gang was sooo much bigger than your 5 man one. Always happy to mail you guys back home.
On another note we finished the day with minimal losses, and managed to take down 2 BE bs (fully t2 fitted, and probably rigged aswell, estimated costs around 500m each), and im sure we got a few of your alts aswell. Good fight and i hope to be mailing the rest of you home tomorrow.
Linkage i count 13 and alot of your guys didnt get on any kms simply because of lag. we had just gone through that system and where going back. it had 0 in it the first time the second time we jumped in including our 5 local was at 29
Your signature <----- My awsome Sig
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master bates
Amarr Smoking Hillbillys The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2007.04.16 10:30:00 -
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and i remember when wildcat was a carebear mission runner
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Alita Tiphares
Aztek Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.16 10:40:00 -
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you make it sound like you jumped 4 pilots onto 40...
in reality, you fought people with 40 hostiles in the system. I guess i do 1 vs 40's all the time in that case.
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zorgluba
Doom Guard FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.16 11:32:00 -
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Let's not troll forever on how FREGE defends his home system, if you come be ready to be facing many pilots. If you are 5 and are attacked by 40 don't whine, complain or smack, noone forced you to come in the first place.
To BE : i'm stunned by your statement on our diplos closing the convos with you, you either didn't speak with the right guys or made a demand he couldn't provide, but in any case you can try and convo me (I'm almost always there) and I'll get you in touch with the proper contact.
To all : please keep this post civil and polite, this is a a game and even people you could happen to hate are playing for their entertainement.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.16 11:50:00 -
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When i Was in Frege was very funny the reactions to any invader. Once there was a 70+ people gang hinting a single ceptor in system. the guy was probably thinking... "wtf I did do deserve that?"
Come on FREGE I know you guys.. you can handle these BE guys.. where is that Freege that took 3 ratel Carriers at same yime with no capital suport?
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Minigin
Zephyr Enterprises Inc. Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.04.16 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: zorgluba Let's not troll forever on how FREGE defends his home system, if you come be ready to be facing many pilots. If you are 5 and are attacked by 40 don't whine, complain or smack, noone forced you to come in the first place.
To BE : i'm stunned by your statement on our diplos closing the convos with you, you either didn't speak with the right guys or made a demand he couldn't provide, but in any case you can try and convo me (I'm almost always there) and I'll get you in touch with the proper contact.
To all : please keep this post civil and polite, this is a a game and even people you could happen to hate are playing for their entertainement.
you are of course right, but i just get a little dull humour about your raw force. i hate it when i get lagged so badly <_<
but i admit you are doing one hell of a job deffending yourselves. more than most other alliances. so well done for that.
Your signature <----- My awsome Sig
face it... my smack is soooooooo much better than yours!
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Wesley Baird
Ever Flow FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.16 13:29:00 -
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Edited by: Wesley Baird on 16/04/2007 13:27:25 I'm a diplo and I have had a brief chat with one BE in regards to smacking on the forums, as he was answering a question from my earlier post.
Perhaps when Evil Pookie said he tried to resolve this situation diplomatically, that happened a month or two ago, shortly after "the incident".
I would like to strongly discourage any more smack talk from Frege members, BE has done a masterful job at getting kills. While we managed to destroy a couple of their ships, given the kill ratio, lets not brag about "mailing them home".
Remember this is a game, lets keep it all in perspective and keep it friendly!
On a side note, I would like to say, BE provided one of the funniest eve moments of my career. I guess some of those reading this thread were motivated to come down to our space and get in on the action. We had 4-5 hostiles who we have never seen come down to our space, while we were trying to figure out if they were friends of BE, they entered system warped to station. Within seconds, they were bubbled, sniped and podded by BE (1 pod got away). There was lots of angry smack by the lone survivor...
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eXtas
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.04.16 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Wesley Baird Edited by: Wesley Baird on 16/04/2007 13:27:25 I'm a diplo and I have had a brief chat with one BE in regards to smacking on the forums, as he was answering a question from my earlier post.
Perhaps when Evil Pookie said he tried to resolve this situation diplomatically, that happened a month or two ago, shortly after "the incident".
I would like to strongly discourage any more smack talk from Frege members, BE has done a masterful job at getting kills. While we managed to destroy a couple of their ships, given the kill ratio, lets not brag about "mailing them home".
Remember this is a game, lets keep it all in perspective and keep it friendly!
On a side note, I would like to say, BE provided one of the funniest eve moments of my career. I guess some of those reading this thread were motivated to come down to our space and get in on the action. We had 4-5 hostiles who we have never seen come down to our space, while we were trying to figure out if they were friends of BE, they entered system warped to station. Within seconds, they were bubbled, sniped and podded by BE (1 pod got away). There was lots of angry smack by the lone survivor...
actualy they bubled themself on the station I can tell that we were laughing our asses of on ts
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.04.16 14:29:00 -
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Is bodycollector your diplomat?
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Oofig VanDoogan
The Return FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.16 15:34:00 -
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Yeah BE has been doing a nice job keeping the Astral Wolves gangs away :D ----------------------------------------------- Recruitment Thread Human Resources Director, RXA |
Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.16 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Pookie Is bodycollector your diplomat?
Bodycollector is Frege leader.
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
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SATAN
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.04.16 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Alita Tiphares you make it sound like you jumped 4 pilots onto 40...
in reality, you fought people with 40 hostiles in the system. I guess i do 1 vs 40's all the time in that case.
Hello mr.smack,
Local is at a constant 100+
Their gangs seem to be at a constant 60-70+
The gang we engaged and killed in the engagement in question was 40+.
Anything else?
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SATAN
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.04.16 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Oofig VanDoogan Edited by: Oofig VanDoogan on 16/04/2007 15:39:32 Yeah BE has been doing a nice job keeping the Astral Wolves gangs away :D
And BC is not the diplo, no. Hes high command but seldom dabbles in the diplomatic side of things.
For diplomatic needs with FREGE contact either Wesley Baird or Kantide.
Other than that, hope to see you UDIE guys back tonight
When they came in yesterday we thought you guys got some new friends to help you fight us. Then we realized that they were trying to pick our fruit straight from the vine, so we killed them. It was very nice of them to bubble them selves in, we are running short of bubbles down there.
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Masta Killa
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.04.16 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Osidax Haha I suppose you will learn but as soon as you find a 'counter' they will all log or sit in a safe cloaked until the 'counter' goes away. They are out for ganks and thats it. They are not there to 'Fight'. A properly setup frig swarm is always a good counter if not fun at the same time. But when you do watch them fade into background.
Frig fleets are awesome, esp those suckers who fit gistii mwd's thinking it helps at all against max skill precision cruise
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Masta Killa
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.04.16 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Phantom Phenix By the looks of it, Burn Eden takes this game way too seriously to the point where its beyond fun...can u say obsessive. Its a damn game ffs, get a life and let everyone enjoy the game instead bieng a group of selfish ass*****.
How can you kill that which has no life?
Anyway, we play to grief, inbetween our sessions of smacktalking and griefing in Toontown Online.
Just yesterday we made over 90 children start crying in rl.
Griefing is good..
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Masta Killa
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.04.16 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: ghosttr Yes, our 7 man gang was sooo much bigger than your 5 man one. Always happy to mail you guys back home.
On another note we finished the day with minimal losses, and managed to take down 2 BE bs (fully t2 fitted, and probably rigged aswell, estimated costs around 500m each), and im sure we got a few of your alts aswell. Good fight and i hope to be mailing the rest of you home tomorrow.
These minimal losses you speak of... they're _116_ ships in the last 24 hours.
The bs's we lost were due to me being a n00b for Lord Tikaden's loss and DHB Wildcat died to his own n00bness.
Where you get that 500m each figure I don't know, I wasn't aware that t2 cruise launchers or t2 tachs were that expensive tbh..
But anyways, grats for getting 2 of us when we made mistakes, now you only have to kill 114 more of our ships to get even with what we killed in the last 24 hours
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Roshan longshot
Gallente Ordos Humanitas FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.16 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: ETS4ME Eye witness!!!!! (2nd Raven)
Hey ETS4ME, you know your raven has a long dent under the port wing? Real noticable at 2500m....Would of fixed it for you if sombody did'nt have his head up his arse.
Good Job on BE side, I aint seen playing like that in along time.
Note to Noobs: Dont deploy a warp bubble then call the fleet to gate to fight hostiles
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Hexman
Cryo Crypt inc. FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.16 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: Hexman on 16/04/2007 19:40:22 My $0.02:
First off, lets get the smack part cleared up: :SMACK: :SMACK: :SMACK: :SMACK: :SMACK: :SMACK:
Chest pounding (insert chest pounding emoticon here).
Ok now to the real post: hats off to you guys. Great tactics, SP's really show in the edge you have over most of our players, but in the end it's your tactics and coordination that make a difference, IMO.
And one thing that really catches me: I've never seen players with so much patience and persistance - I mean, whenever I log on, there you are. I log off - yep, still there. :AMAZING:
So looking forward, and with no smacktalking intended, I hope we catch the rest of you without getting too many of our over enthusiastic but low-on SP's members blown up.
Oh, and please disregard some of our less forum-broke members. This is, after all, a game and we're all here to have fun. Even getting blown up is fun sometimes -specially if you're intoxicated while it happens
Again, my respects and see you around space.
btw, just out of curiosity, could you put some linkage to the post and smacktalking that brought on this events? It makes no difference if you came because of that or because you like things going boom-boom...it's 100% curiosity. honest.
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If you don't like it there, there are about 5000 other solar systems which you can go for.
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Alpine 69
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.04.16 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Masta Killa
Originally by: Phantom Phenix By the looks of it, Burn Eden takes this game way too seriously to the point where its beyond fun...can u say obsessive. Its a damn game ffs, get a life and let everyone enjoy the game instead bieng a group of selfish ass*****.
How can you kill that which has no life?
Anyway, we play to grief, inbetween our sessions of smacktalking and griefing in Toontown Online.
Just yesterday we made over 90 children start crying in rl.
Griefing is good..
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bodycollecter
CAPITAL TRUST FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.16 23:38:00 -
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I've Got your diplomatic Resolution Right here! f1-f8
Ba so you get kills good job, learning experience for the newer players. Etc. Its all fun. Bragging about killmails is like bragging about achievements in highschool its ok but it won't get you a job.
Get All the Attention you want etc. Its a game have fun.Do your song and dance.
See you in space.
Signed/BC
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Minigin
Zephyr Enterprises Inc. Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.04.17 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Oofig VanDoogan Edited by: Oofig VanDoogan on 16/04/2007 15:39:32 Yeah BE has been doing a nice job keeping the Astral Wolves gangs away :D
And BC is not the diplo, no. Hes high command but seldom dabbles in the diplomatic side of things.
For diplomatic needs with FREGE contact either Wesley Baird or Kantide.
Other than that, hope to see you UDIE guys back tonight
um actually... thats not the case... we make runs into your space whenever we want. (we only bring the expencive ships when we want insurance) but we are always in your space. yesterday alone i think 4 groups went up. to say that BE is deturing us is... rather silly.
other than the fact they are busy killing you regardless of wether or not we are they're alone seems to indicate that you are much happier to have BURN EDEN one of the most feared and respected pvp forces in the game, shooting at you rather than Astral Wolves, what is comonly know for its "lack" of pvp.
further i highly doubt it was our members who bubbled themselves as on the km appears a noob corp dictor. a tactic frequently used by BE, im not saying theres anything wrong with this, but if you are refering to the celestis kill then it wasnt our bubble.
further i think your assuming that BE would much rather kill astral wolves rather than FREGE. they wouldnt be in your space if that was the case.
now dont get me wrong i admire the way you rally to defend your home, but i get so frustrated when im only in a 5 man gang, and im lagged to the point where my ship wont explode...
again, thanks from completely misunderstanding the posts that came before. Your signature <----- My awsome Sig
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