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CardboardSword42
Celtic Anarchy
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Posted - 2007.04.17 00:22:00 -
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Edited by: CardboardSword42 on 17/04/2007 00:19:51 That's explained by the fact that you don't get on a killmail for dropping a warp disruptor probe.
And I think BE will just kill anyone they see in FREGE's home system, it's not a question of who would they rather kill more. I mean let's be honest, why choose?
I'm Ex-Biomass, that makes me cool But now I'm KOS and that makes me cooler 8)
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.04.17 00:31:00 -
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It didnt dawn on us that those targets were not frege until someone asked the question, why dont they just dock up? Ohh snap, they cant.
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Garrett Smith
ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Oofig VanDoogan Edited by: Oofig VanDoogan on 16/04/2007 15:39:32 Yeah BE has been doing a nice job keeping the Astral Wolves gangs away :D
And BC is not the diplo, no. Hes high command but seldom dabbles in the diplomatic side of things.
For diplomatic needs with FREGE contact either Wesley Baird or Kantide.
Other than that, hope to see you UDIE guys back tonight
um actually... thats not the case... we make runs into your space whenever we want. (we only bring the expencive ships when we want insurance) but we are always in your space. yesterday alone i think 4 groups went up. to say that BE is deturing us is... rather silly.
other than the fact they are busy killing you regardless of wether or not we are they're alone seems to indicate that you are much happier to have BURN EDEN one of the most feared and respected pvp forces in the game, shooting at you rather than Astral Wolves, what is comonly know for its "lack" of pvp.
further i highly doubt it was our members who bubbled themselves as on the km appears a noob corp dictor. a tactic frequently used by BE, im not saying theres anything wrong with this, but if you are refering to the celestis kill then it wasnt our bubble.
further i think your assuming that BE would much rather kill astral wolves rather than FREGE. they wouldnt be in your space if that was the case.
now dont get me wrong i admire the way you rally to defend your home, but i get so frustrated when im only in a 5 man gang, and im lagged to the point where my ship wont explode...
again, thanks from completely misunderstanding the posts that came before.
Once again... thats how we roll... you know we will have a gang of 40+ because it is our home system. Please don't complain of lag, go somewhere else if you don't want it. You make the choice to come to NGM knowing there will be lag, and that there will be 60+ in system. Please, do not complain of lag again.
Have a nice day
Originally by: El Yatta they shouldnt have gotten involved in supercaps, because on the whole they are very dull, except for 2-3 people in the alliance who get to go "wheee, i cant be scrambled, pwn pwn". |
Deathcharge
Minmatar Flying Spaghetti Monsterz FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 01:54:00 -
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Man I dunno y so many of our pilots are unhappy about the whole situation. I mean we like BE. By all means guys come over more often - you're killing off all the carebears and whiners we have, who dun read intel channels. So yeah, keep killing em until they leave alliance :D See every time a thing like that happens, it filters out whoever doesn't need to be in an alliance. Thanx for the favour :P
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Dicks Brother
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Posted - 2007.04.17 03:01:00 -
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Great Job to BE. They are good pilots that can wreak havoc on anyone of their choosing. Ive gone on quite a few sweep trying to clean them up and I havent even seen one of them yet. I hear of them attacking someone in the alliance passing through a gate oblivious that they are there, but thats about it. They choose their targets carefully make it happen quickly and disappear before a response can be made. We have caught a few but only because of their mistakes. Good job guys, hats off, I hope your video cards burn up from leaving EvE logged on all day while your at work.cya tomorrow
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Lea Re
CAPITAL TRUST FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 18:43:00 -
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/signed
as some1 mentioned its just a game. heh, burn eden was actually a reason why i finished my holiday in empire a few days sooner than i wanted to. and i must admit, m really impressed with tactics. as to kills, most of them were ppl not paying attention to intel, so hopefully they will learn their lesson too.
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Masta Killa
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.04.18 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: Deathcharge you're killing off all the carebears and whiners we have, who dun read intel channels. So yeah, keep killing em until they leave alliance :D See every time a thing like that happens, it filters out whoever doesn't need to be in an alliance. Thanx for the favour :P
I'm surprised it took so long to use the old standard ASCN excuse.
Yes sir, we'll "do you the favor" of killing you some more...
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Stamm
Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.18 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: Masta Killa
Originally by: Deathcharge you're killing off all the carebears and whiners we have, who dun read intel channels. So yeah, keep killing em until they leave alliance :D See every time a thing like that happens, it filters out whoever doesn't need to be in an alliance. Thanx for the favour :P
I'm surprised it took so long to use the old standard ASCN excuse.
Yes sir, we'll "do you the favor" of killing you some more...
Perhaps it would be more accurately said.
While we don't appreciate the fact you're in our base killing our mans, the silver lining is that you will not change sovereignty, all you will produce is killmails, which at the end of the day won't defeat us. And when all this is over, our pilots should be more alert, and better aware of how PvP works.
Really, at the end of the day I'm sure nobody wants BE killing their less experienced players, but if they don't get exposed to PvP, they're never going to develop. Not having any hostiles is not a good situation, and for now the new regions don't have many.
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Oofig VanDoogan
The Return FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 02:53:00 -
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Considering RULE gave me, a FREGE pilot, my very first taste of the harshness of 0.0, I can confirm what he is saying.
You guys are masters at what you do, no doubt about that. I really ahve no idea how you can run your alt dictors at the same time as warping from bm to bm. But you are also teaching me and my fellow pilots the importance of many things like multiple BMs around tactical areas, extreme coordination, RDS, etc etc
You guys also give me a good laugh..."Ever see somebody pull a mouse out of a hat?" While I really dont like smack talking in local (something you guys are masters at as well, but it really comes with the job of ****ing off alliances of 2000 people at one time), but at least yours transcends the usual "get fertilizur 2 grw bawlz plz frege" we've been getting and makes me laugh.
Keep on keeping on guys, its fun in spite of the heavy losses we're taking. Hey RISE, got anything to say to BE? Like uh...how much you think they suck at pvp? heh heh heh
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Rancid Beef
Shadow Gypsies R i s e
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Posted - 2007.04.18 03:36:00 -
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Other than woopidyfrickendo to anymore hostiles attacking us? No, not much to say.
I do think it's funny they kicked your butts though. I'm a big fan of rooting for "under-dogs." That's why being in RISE is so much fun, outnumbered, outgunned, and still kicken arse.
But, anyone coming to attack us, you will literally have to pick a # and stand in line lol.
"YOU GUYS HOLD UP AT THE P8 GATE WE'LL BE OVER THERE TO FIGHT WITH YOU AS SOON AS WE CAN."
"Err, Rancid we got 3 more 120 man fleets to fight and there is only 50 of us."
"YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND RELOAD !"
:) "A friend of death, a brother of luck, and a s.o.b." |
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.04.18 03:49:00 -
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philbo Baggins > wtf man Evil Pookie > hai guy philbo Baggins > dude wtf? Evil Pookie > want to cyber? philbo Baggins > lol philbo Baggins > no im good Evil Pookie > i have web cam and toys! philbo Baggins > you guys really been givin us a run for our money philbo Baggins > lol i bet u do Evil Pookie > you like lamb? philbo Baggins > kinda philbo Baggins > its not bad i guess Evil Pookie > i has inflatable sheeps philbo Baggins > why do you ask philbo Baggins > lol Evil Pookie > i had a real one but some governments manz took it away, said i was cruel. but i loved that sheeps, i really really loved that sheeps philbo Baggins > thats ****** up man Evil Pookie > are you governments manz? Evil Pookie > because that;s what he said to me too! philbo Baggins > ok im done dude. philbo Baggins > gl Evil Pookie > aww
why would we ever want to leave when i get private covos like this!
Luv Pookie
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Hellown
Avis de Captura
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Posted - 2007.04.18 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Pookie philbo Baggins > wtf man Stuff why would we ever want to leave when i get private covos like this!
Luv Pookie
Pookie, you win the thread. :)
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Rancid Beef
Shadow Gypsies R i s e
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Posted - 2007.04.18 08:49:00 -
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lol "A friend of death, a brother of luck, and a s.o.b." |
Cartiff
Darwin With Attitude RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 10:56:00 -
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Now, stop me if I'm wrong a my memory usually fails me at times, but when i look back at Burn Edens past "conflicts" etc, they always seem to be against weaker opponents.
Now, some peeps will say "they attacked ASCN, the biggest alliance at the time!!" well lets fac eit here peeps, ASCN was ****e at pvp. They also attacked the north, convienently when all their PVPers are attackin BOB etc. Now their shootin up FREGE, who quite frankly (and i use this description very rarely) are a complete joke at PVP.
Now, I'm not knocking burn eden AT ALL, we all like explosions and newbs explode the best ofc, but maybe its time to step away from the killboards and chest beating for a second, and maybe shoot someone who can challenge you?
Meh, what do i know
Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why -Sahwoolo
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TZeer
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.04.18 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Cartiff maybe shoot someone who can challenge you?
Meh, what do i know
Maybe you can point out a direction for us? Where can we find a a target that will challenge us, without bringing at least twice our numbers and capital support?
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Phish1
Liberty Forces Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 12:08:00 -
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Edited by: Phish1 on 18/04/2007 12:08:58
Originally by: Kagura Nikon When i Was in Frege was very funny the reactions to any invader. Once there was a 70+ people gang hinting a single ceptor in system. the guy was probably thinking... "wtf I did do deserve that?"
Come on FREGE I know you guys.. you can handle these BE guys.. where is that Freege that took 3 ratel Carriers at same yime with no capital suport?
yup, when we (ratel) were enjoying attackign you guys, quite regularly I was solo in a stealth bomber or inty and you would get 20-60 guys to take out little old me.
still, all that ore i popped was worth it
and those 3 carriers, it was a pretty nice job, but with 60 guys, carriers damped to sub 2 km range it cant really be called fair. but anyway, you did do a good job, i KNOW our carrier pilots loved it, they were giggling like b*tches on TS for days afterwards. i know you took very heavy losses though, many of your battleships were taken out in the first round, and you ran back to ngm to bring a bigger blob
oh, and flyign with warspite against you, that was pure undiluted ownage, in one night we had about 10 guys, you had 60 minimum, killed about 10 support ships, 4/5 BS, many frigs, and some others, and what losses did we take? 1 cruiser!
frege are masters of the blob, but to beat them easily, take an equal sized blob, or use sniper bs to do hit and run attacks. gurilla warefare is very effective
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Lyl Libido
The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.04.18 12:27:00 -
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You guys always make me chuckle... -Lyl Libido The Taining Corp |
SATAN
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.04.18 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Cartiff Now, stop me if I'm wrong a my memory usually fails me at times, but when i look back at Burn Edens past "conflicts" etc, they always seem to be against weaker opponents.
Now, some peeps will say "they attacked ASCN, the biggest alliance at the time!!" well lets fac eit here peeps, ASCN was ****e at pvp. They also attacked the north, convienently when all their PVPers are attackin BOB etc. Now their shootin up FREGE, who quite frankly (and i use this description very rarely) are a complete joke at PVP.
Now, I'm not knocking burn eden AT ALL, we all like explosions and newbs explode the best ofc, but maybe its time to step away from the killboards and chest beating for a second, and maybe shoot someone who can challenge you?
Meh, what do i know
Oh my where to start,
The old our PvP'rs are away line, how long did you take you to think that one up? We have been all over EvE multiple times, and have heard that line on many occasions especialy from Northern and Southern noobs. Then when their frig fleets show up(PvP'rs) they die like all the rest, and go complain on the forums about our tactics.
Only reason we came to Frege space was for a challenge, they asked for it on the forums. How are we supposed to know they have no clue? Fact of the matter is they don't seem to be any worse or better than anyone else in EvE.
Perhaps next we will move to Razor space so you can show us how its done? I bet the first thing that will happen is you will start screaming but our PvP'rs are are elsewhere...
Guess what, we dont give a flying ****, we go where there are people, the more the merrier.
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Stris
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Posted - 2007.04.19 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: bodycollecter I've Got your diplomatic Resolution Right here! f1-f8
Ba so you get kills good job, learning experience for the newer players. Etc. Its all fun. Bragging about killmails is like bragging about achievements in highschool its ok but it won't get you a job.
Get All the Attention you want etc. Its a game have fun.Do your song and dance.
See you in space.
Signed/BC
This man speaks the truth
/signed
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Dust Walk
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.19 00:38:00 -
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^Dang alt - mine -- OMG NERF ME! |
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Esurnir
Amarr Bears Inc FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.19 00:52:00 -
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Quote: I've Got your diplomatic Resolution Right here! f1-f8
/signed ----
Quote: Thou shall pew pew.
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Cartiff
Darwin With Attitude RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.19 01:21:00 -
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DWA has barely been in Razor a month so I'm not making any kind of excuses from a northern standpoint, go where you please fella.
You say you want me to tell you a place where they won't blob you?? what you think frege is going to do? LMAO. Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why -Sahwoolo
"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys" |
TZeer
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.04.19 02:34:00 -
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NO, I asked you to point out a place where someone could challenge us, without having to bring all their mothers, sisters and the dog to fight us and top it off with some capitals...
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Brunswick2
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.04.19 03:17:00 -
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<3 DWA, well, I also <3 UDIE (Had a bit of fun fighting you guys in LXQ)
See you guys down in RIT
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.19 10:38:00 -
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If we (purely hypothetically) wanted to recieve max blobbage from FREGE what would be the best time of day to show up?
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.19 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: TZeer
Originally by: Cartiff maybe shoot someone who can challenge you?
Meh, what do i know
Maybe you can point out a direction for us? Where can we find a a target that will challenge us, without bringing at least twice our numbers and capital support?
If I may give an opinion.. how about outbreak.. they seem to be the type of chalange you want.
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Cable Onassi
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Posted - 2007.04.19 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
Only reason we came to Frege space was for a challenge, they asked for it on the forums.
I have seen several people ask about this and you keep saying it but could you please show us this forum trash-talk that you keep accusing FREGE of? If you cant back up this statement, how are we to believe anything else you say?
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UT TheBossUT
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Posted - 2007.04.19 17:14:00 -
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It is kinda funny, I remeber evil pokie from the PF-346 days, he use to solo camp with his raven and cloak, I was in there still doing my learning skills would spend many hours talking to Evil pokie. one day they came to L4X and frege at the time being ran by there idiot FC, thought they could kill them, I told the FC just how it would happen, they would warp a alt in a dictor in. bubble the gate and warp damping ravens in, do this over and over as hit runs. I know this as I have flown with Burn Eden, I am proud to say I would love to fight like them, In fact i have adapted a few raven setups from them. BURN EDEN most of frege are good guys with lots of issues. but have fun killing them I know I will. Evil Pokie hit me up some day in Eve. Since RAGE has dropped it's allaince to join with another terror of a allaince that loves hunting Frege and the damn red allaince and there friends. I hate it when i attack some one in local and there like friends of red stop. so if the enamie of my friend does that make them my friend. now is this all the time as long as my frined is around or all time well GUESS WHAT I DONT F****** CARE any more. BURN EDEN Guys Fly safe, I have alot of respect for you guys.
UTthebossUT out aka ThebossUT
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Crellion
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.19 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: TZeer NO, I asked you to point out a place where someone could challenge us, without having to bring all their mothers, sisters and the dog to fight us and top it off with some capitals...
Not to be rude but close range would be a start... and dont say "bitter much" etc. I dont think I have ever had any serious fight with BE. I have seen you operate (blue to me at the time) in GW (Konora end). 99% of what you did seemed to be: "find choke point, cloak/deepsafe 2+ Ravens, install 1-2 alt dictors on gate, wait for incoming" My guess (purely from this post) is you adopted to missle nerf by adding a webber to take care of tacklers (target navigation bla bla)and/or keep BSs and other tanks withing the sphere longer. The use of 2 dictors could well be for the same reason (i.e 2 bubbles at different times so the dictors can run away)... Probably moved the Ravens from 200 off gate to 100 ish off gate too (or 130 perhaps).
All cool stuff but hardly worthy of any huge chest beating in my respectful and honest opinion... Ur biggest assets seem to be patience and perseverence (doing the same thing for the past 2 years every day cant be all that interesting when its a form of camping to begin with).
Stats wise you always do a lot better than average and props but why you need a thread every time? Other people also get these sort of results every other day or twice per week or whatever (if you doubt these mail me ingame I ll send you KB links) but dont feel the need to shout it to the world every time...
If I had to give an award for top obnoxious snipering pvper it would go to Atlus and not a BE char tbh, not that it matters, just saying...
Anyway well played I guess.
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Forlani Tristania
Gallente Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.19 19:49:00 -
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Yep, when I flew an op into FREGE space with Warspite, there were 8 of us in assorted smaller sips. We killed 5-6 ships of various types, then saw a growing blob pursuing us and decided to call it an afternoon. That is when we warped into a 75-ship gate camp in front of us .
My Mymidon popped, no biggie, but fun was had by all. As for blobs, I would expect nothing less from an alliance with a lot of pilots online...especially if I am causing trouble in or around their home system! Just strap in, lock 'n load, and get ready, or else have a safe way out planned so you can play guerilla warfare later on.
Fight the Power FREGE! We in Ratel always enjoyed our encounters.
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