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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.04.15 10:47:00 -
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Consensual pvp in empire, shudder. God no, horrible direction, the pain, brain bleeding, spasm twitch
BoB vs the coalition of family value's |
Niko Fugiwara
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.04.15 10:53:00 -
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from personal experience of both sides of the fence, i actually love trying to evade the pirates in a hauler, its exiting, how dull and boring will it get if i didnt have to dodge and trick pirates into not killing me?
personally i think empire should be pvp also then noone can claim the grass is greener and so on.
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Dave White
The Kennels
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Posted - 2007.04.15 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Niko Fugiwara from personal experience of both sides of the fence, i actually love trying to evade the pirates in a hauler, its exiting, how dull and boring will it get if i didnt have to dodge and trick pirates into not killing me?
personally i think empire should be pvp also then noone can claim the grass is greener and so on.
Your avatar wins.
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TrulyKosh
Solo for UNCLE
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Posted - 2007.04.15 11:12:00 -
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>Consentual PVP in Eve means an end to Empire congestion as we leave our over populated systems.
This is not really an argument. Instead of 30-40 systems in high sec which have the best agents in them, you would only move the 1000s of players who use them into low sec systems which have the best agents in them if they could be used without the risk of getting into pvp. If congestion is a problem, "clone" the best agents and place them in other systems. I only invest in businesses that even a fool can run. Because some day a fool will. (Warren Buffett) |
Kasak Black
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.04.15 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Niko Fugiwara from personal experience of both sides of the fence, i actually love trying to evade the pirates in a hauler, its exiting, how dull and boring will it get if i didnt have to dodge and trick pirates into not killing me?
personally i think empire should be pvp also then noone can claim the grass is greener and so on.
THE COOLEST FACE IN EVE EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111oneoneoneelevenOMG!LOL!
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.15 11:29:00 -
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i agree!
and also nicer messages
"are you sure you want to do this dangerous action? the person might feel offended, and maybe was already depressed. you are maybe responsible of a mass murder, so tune in CNN"
"this bubble attempts to warp scrambles you and the 20 hostiles around are going to maybe kill you. please relax, those people are not really mean or hostiles. it is just the game after all" ------
Relaxed corp recruiting |
Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.04.15 11:32:00 -
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We need a Reload Game option for when the fight is going bad and we're losing, thats all. --- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune |
Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.15 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
We need a Reload Game option for when the fight is going bad and we're losing, thats all.
you can already do that, just use the Time machine ------
Relaxed corp recruiting |
Kel Dario
Amarr Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.15 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Auritt The OP wants WoW in space...
Answer to that: NO
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.15 11:40:00 -
[40]
Edited by: Plutoinum on 15/04/2007 11:37:06 Edited by: Plutoinum on 15/04/2007 11:36:41
Originally by: Auritt
The current situation is akin to a modern city centre surrounded by slums. In the centre there is law and order for the most part and people feel safe. Surrounding it are the slums where decent people risk robbery, intimidation and even murder.
Uhm, and that's bad why ? Looks like CCP has designed something right to make the game a bit interesting. EVE is not the usual happy PvE grind-to-the-top-equipment game with some optional pvp added. EVE is a harsh virtual universe, a pvp world.
Ok, I admit, first I only wanted to respond with something like 'lol ?' ___________ Muuuhhh !!! |
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.15 11:41:00 -
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to me it looks like Sin City, and i loved the comics! ------
Relaxed corp recruiting |
Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.04.15 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Splagada
Originally by: Jim McGregor
We need a Reload Game option for when the fight is going bad and we're losing, thats all.
you can already do that, just use the Time machine
I figured you would link to the petition page actually... --- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune |
Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.15 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Splagada
Originally by: Jim McGregor
We need a Reload Game option for when the fight is going bad and we're losing, thats all.
you can already do that, just use the Time machine
I figured you would link to the petition page actually...
lol good one
however the OP makes a great point !
may i suggest to try out Progress Quest ------
Relaxed corp recruiting |
William DeMeo
Gallente Serial Killers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.15 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf
Originally by: Waxau
Quote: I believe they need to either add more stargate routes into 0.0 to relieve pressure on the current bottlenecks or need to add some means to get into 0.0 by avoiding the bottlenecks just as my Jump Rigs idea.
How would that increase the amount of people in low sec? That'll just overpopulate 0.0.
Quote: It would also be nice if the various forum trolls would stop telling folks to go to other games not owned by CCP and try to help folks understand why the game has the mechanics it does.
If people think that pvp should be consentual, then they're not cut out for eve, and only ruin others gameplay. Such as wcs on ships to avoid risk, etc. A game which often brings this type of 'persona' to eve is WoW.
They cant understand how eve works, otherwise they wouldnt post such rather stupid things :S
Jump rigs or more stargate routes to 0.0 would increase some low sec traffic after all you'd have to travel to low sec in order to reach 0.0 with them. However the real trick to making more people stay in low sec would be to actually make it worthwhile. The reward vs risk is skewered in low sec where the reward is just to low in comparison to the risk.
As for the other, yes they may have chosen the wrong game. At the same time they may just not understand why things are as they are. At the same time referring someone to a competitor could be viewed as against the EULA. It is kinda what they got K on, by his revelations he cost them revenue and thus they banned him. While they haven't done that with lesser offenders yet they could chose to do so at any time.
Its about making the forums and thus game a bit more welcoming to people. You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar as the old saying goes.
All you need in lowsec to rat is a T1 frig. Costs nothing, warps fast. If you use a T1 frig to rat the risk vs. Reward is just as good as in 0.0
But by all means come to lowsec in bigger ships or I'll get bored Yarr |
Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2007.04.15 12:30:00 -
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Uum...m'kay, my post got nuked
Anyway I was being serious, is this a joke? Because this is the sort of thing that would finish Eve if implemented (fortunately it never would be)...
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Video - 'War-Machine' |
Ifni
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.04.15 12:30:00 -
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Define PVP for me please. If you mean combat, then at its most basic it's simply the loss and transfer of isk from you to others.
Now please, can you tell me what the market is? Could it not also be the loss and transfer of isk from you to others?
I PVP solely, and so I have no time nor inclination to get into production or invention. Yet that's fine for me. Without the continuous combat, there would be no demand for modules, or new ships, and the game would become stagnant as the market ground to a halt.
This is what makes EVE different to all the other MMO's out there. This is what makes EVE great. If you find this hard to come to terms with, then perhaps EVE is not meant for you and those who think like you.
You take what is offered. And that must sometimes be enough. |
My grandfather
Amarr Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.15 12:36:00 -
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I vote that if pvp is to be made consentual, then mining should too. Those roids have to agree with you sucking them empty! Same goes for npc's!
all in favor?
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Ozzie Asrail
Exploited
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Posted - 2007.04.15 12:39:00 -
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ok I'll take it easy since it's a sunday and alot of people probably are not at their peak after a saturday night. But has that idea even been thought through at all?
1. All the mostu\high sec hub mission runners would move to the slightly better lowsec area. = MORE Lag since you now have all the highsec and lowsec mission runners in the same systems.
2. Mining. Mid range minerals would drop though the floor once macro miners and large hulk fleets start plowing though the belts.
3. Ratting. lowsec rats are not that great, the crowding around the "fake" 0.0 systems would be lagtastic.
3. Every PvP'er\pirate would join the privateers and most corps over aboout 20 people would be perma wardec'd. Cool, now we have effectivly 0.0 space everywhere!
There, in the couple minutes it's taking for one of my servers to reboot 4 good reasons why your idea sucks. -----
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.04.15 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler And both playstyles are valid and needed, not everyone wants or should get out in low sec space.
I'm normally not a nitpicker about what CCP says, but this struck a serious bone in me that totally contradicts CCP's goals of wanting people to move into lowsec.
@ the OP
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NPC Vendetta system, Local rehash, Probe decoys |
TheFirstInquisitor
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Posted - 2007.04.15 12:47:00 -
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First off, Niko Fugiwara Where the hell is your face?...
Secondly, theres a grain of a good idea in there, as in make PVP consentual in 1.0 systems only (new peeps starting areas) to remove so many greifers. Been to 1.0 a few times and every time there was some git leaving cans saying "free equipment for noobs" and the like. Also lots of Ibis wreks.....
Note to all, What I say may be infact of a more humorous tone than comes accross. |
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Thesas
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.04.15 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler You should probably see EVE more as the old US. High sec is relatively safe like the old colony states while if you venture out to the wild west, the only law is the one you make yourself.
This is precisely how I saw Eve when I came here. The old west of the US analogy is spot on what I expected.
But this analogy fails when the Apache nation declares war on Boston.
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eLLioTT wave
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.15 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Rawne Karrde PVP in EvE is consentual, you agree to it when you login. If you don't like it you're in the wrong game.
QFT Thread winner |
Talkie Toaster
Amarr Incoherent Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.15 13:17:00 -
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making pvp consensual isnt the solution to any problems. you want pvp pew pew to be consensual, but what about when you sell soemthing on the market? or when you strip a roid belt?
i agree that there should be ways of avoiding constant wars by either bribing concord back or whatever. but if you make pvp consensual and someone steals my ore and then they dont want to pvp. im fubared.
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.15 13:18:00 -
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PvP in Eve is already consentual...you consent everytime you login. _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Star Commander |
Le Skunk
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.15 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Niko Fugiwara from personal experience of both sides of the fence, i actually love trying to evade the pirates in a hauler, its exiting, how dull and boring will it get if i didnt have to dodge and trick pirates into not killing me?
personally i think empire should be pvp also then noone can claim the grass is greener and so on.
wtf is with that face
SKUNK
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Marlenus
Ironfleet Towing And Salvage
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Posted - 2007.04.15 13:54:00 -
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Look, nobody likes getting ganked.
But what makes Eve different from all the other games out there is that when I log in, I know that there are malevolent human intelligences in the game who are out to get me.
I've got tools to protect myself. They aren't perfect tools. I also have a brain to protect myself with. It's not perfect either. To live, thrive, and survive, I have to keep my wits about me and pay a lot of attention to risk management.
Does that always work? Heck no! Sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you.
I'm not a pure carebear -- sometimes I salvage things that other people still want, a lot -- but I'm one of these pilots who avoids (tries to avoid) a fight unless I'm 95% sure of winning.
But if the risk of a fight wasn't omnipresent, I wouldn't be playing this game. Frankly, it's not that compelling except for the way it's got a different set of twenty thousand high quality hostile intelligences pitted against me every time I log in.
Make PVP consensual? Er, no thanks. ------------------ Ironfleet.com Proposal: Automated Ore Return Vehicles |
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.04.15 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
Originally by: CCP Wrangler And both playstyles are valid and needed, not everyone wants or should get out in low sec space.
I'm normally not a nitpicker about what CCP says, but this struck a serious bone in me that totally contradicts CCP's goals of wanting people to move into lowsec.
Not it isn't, people should be encouraged to get out in low sec space, but never forced to do so. I think we've been saying that the whole time.
Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online
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Logi3
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.15 14:18:00 -
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Theres mods and methods ingame game put there by CCP to PVP or get around PVP. Its there, use your loaf
Back to basics, back to pirating |
Bluddwolf
WolfPack Guild
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Posted - 2007.04.15 14:30:00 -
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The consentual PvP I want to be added is within ganged groups, in high security space. We run corp events that are basically, PVP sparing secessions, but some of our friends are in a different corp. They can't join in without Concord "popping" them. If there was an "Invite to Spar" function then it would be possible.
For those of you that would say, "take it to low sec.", well the problem with that is that we would then run the risk of getting jumped by outsiders while we are running our event.
So the idea of having consentual pvp is a good one, just the opposite way in which the original poster is thinking about it.
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Cat Casidy
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2007.04.15 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Nyana
Originally by: Rawne Karrde PVP in EvE is consentual, you agree to it when you login. If you don't like it you're in the wrong game.
Best EVE quote ever
QFT.
drat! you stole my thoughts. Stupid thought stealer
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