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CCP kieron
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Posted - 2007.04.17 18:39:00 -
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There have been some busy times at CCP over the last few weeks, deployment of the Revelations 1.4.1 patch, preparations for 1.4.2 and Revelations 2 (later this year), Fanfest logistics and announcements, and much more.
Part of the aforementioned preparations for Revelations 1.4.2 involve a number of changes to Freighters, their in-space operations and availability of loot, other updates include a restructuring of the cost of War.
Finally, there are some corporation management enhancements that will be seeing the light of day in Revelations 1.4.2 and 2.0. You can read more in Code Monkey's new Dev Blog, Loot'n Toot'n Freighters.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online |
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Foxy Cleopatra
Caldari Carnivore Ince
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Posted - 2007.04.17 18:46:00 -
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So next patch we get Freighter ganking in empire for everyone
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Tika Bloodstar
Gallente Hell's Horsemen
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Posted - 2007.04.17 18:47:00 -
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So will Freighters be able to loot other wrecks besides freighter wrecks??
Will freighters be able to take items from jet cans?
Will Freighters be able to jettison? Doesnt look that way from what I read. Star Destroyer FTW!!! |
clone 1
Caldari The Short Bus Squad The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2007.04.17 18:48:00 -
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Quote: Alliance P
Woot for loot tho.
Always Moaning About Race Retardations |
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.04.17 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: CodeMonkey Money-grubbing CONCORD has decided that the number of wars declared by the aggressor will now also count to increase the war prices and the larger of the two is used to determine the war instigation and upkeep fees.
Example: Alliance P has ten wars in progress. They will have to pay 500M/war/week to keep the war machine running. If they now declare war on the eleventh corporation or alliance that war will cost 550M to start and the upkeep cost will be 550M/war/week for all the wars until any of the wars is canceled.
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Montaire
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 18:51:00 -
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I like the changes, and think they are overdue
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R'n'd
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Posted - 2007.04.17 18:53:00 -
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and Privateers are dead now?
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.17 18:56:00 -
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Freighter love, War love, PVP love, PVE love, Manufacture love, Mission love, Man-Girl love, Girl-Man love, Girl-girl love, Miner love, Man-Man love. Can't wait for Revelations 1.Carebear.382 to hit teh podpilots
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Aqwis Silaman
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2007.04.17 19:11:00 -
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<insert whine about Privateer nerf here> --- And now for something completely different... |
Bein Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.04.17 19:35:00 -
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Just so you know, if you're going to be making things easier for corporation management, some people would like it if you could increase the maximum number of slots for corp -> corp standings from 300 to, say, 1000.
Thread here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=504888 |
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Sanctuary
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Posted - 2007.04.17 19:47:00 -
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Great changes, I think. I'm particularly pleased with the highsec wardec changes; despite the absolute perfect storm of whining about to commence, this is a balanced and necessary change to put an appropriate cost/risk to having multiple wars.
Sanctions, embargoes and blockades- discuss PVP with ISK! |
Roule
The Kennels
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Posted - 2007.04.17 19:47:00 -
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Quote: War Fees
On a yet another separate note, the mechanics of War Fees will change in the 1.4.2 patch.
Previously a war issued by an alliance would cost 50M + 50M/week. If the alliance or corporation being warred against was already the victim of another war that fee would increase by 50M for each war declared against the victim.
Money-grubbing CONCORD has decided that the number of wars declared by the aggressor will now also count to increase the war prices and the larger of the two is used to determine the war instigation and upkeep fees.
Example: Alliance P has ten wars in progress. They will have to pay 500M/war/week to keep the war machine running. If they now declare war on the eleventh corporation or alliance that war will cost 550M to start and the upkeep cost will be 550M/war/week for all the wars until any of the wars is canceled.
This is an important matter of game-balance and we're happy we're finally getting it in.
Hmm.... Hasn't the freighter dropping loot been in place for a few weeks now? i mean i only had to get in a hauler a few weeks ago to loot a tonne of minerals from one.
Sounds like your putting that into cover up the new carebear loving move you've made.
Seriouly are you really going to take away the freedom that this MMO is valued for over any other.
Scan probe nerf (turning away from skill needed to a lottery) Warp to 0? Now Privateer nerfing?
I was led to believe this was a game about fighting stuff not preserving stuff.
I guess this is another one to the forum carebears whine.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Sanctuary
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Posted - 2007.04.17 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba Freighter love, War love, PVP love, PVE love, Manufacture love, Mission love, Man-Girl love, Girl-Man love, Girl-girl love, Miner love, Man-Man love. Can't wait for Revelations 1.Carebear.382 to hit teh podpilots
Now all we need is some forum love. They've been either working great or in the toilet all day.
Sanctions, embargoes and blockades- discuss PVP with ISK! |
Dr Cron
Northern Lights Number 5
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Posted - 2007.04.17 19:51:00 -
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"Tootles"
indeed.
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Vandervecken Smith
Athanasius Inc. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:00:00 -
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Unclear about loot dropping: If I am in a ship with an unassembled secure container in the hold, the secure container atm jettisons, in the new patch it will be placed in the wreck? Yes? Fine. What if the container is assembled and has stuff in it. A great benefit for haulers has always been that if I get popped, and the secure container survives, it gets jettisoned into space where it can be picked up by me later on, but it's very hard to destroy. What will happen to an assembled secure container? Are the days of this tactic over?
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ae1
Minmatar The IMorral MAjority Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:11:00 -
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One option is to localize the wars. Instead of PA dec'ing everyone, now the corps get to. Each corp gets 10 dec's with isk and some guidance from PA. If you want to fight in a different region, just join a gang already there, and pew pew to your hearts content. This isn't the end of PA (so all you empire CB's can start your whining once again) we'll just adapt to the game as CCP modifies the rules. PA is here to stay, and killing in empire is what we do. Get used to it. |
Coran Ordus
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Roule
Now Privateer nerfing?
I was led to believe this was a game about fighting stuff not preserving stuff.
I guess this is another one to the forum carebears whine.
I think the Privateer whining has been overdone, and I think this is not quite the right fix ... being able to wardec everyone and their mom has its ups and downs, but I think the risk/reward was more or less balanced (minus black-screen-undock campers). They explode just fine when you bother to shoot them.
On the other hand, entering and leaving Privateers at will to fight when you want to, and carebear when you don't, was kind of a weak mechanism and needed to be addressed. Something like an option for a discounted revenge wardec might have solved this better. |
Caligulus
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:14:00 -
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Sooo...it was kind of vague on this point. Can frieghters now loot jetcans? They can loot wrecks but does it include j-cans? Can I mine in a belt with a freighter alt scooping the ore? =O
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Trader Sandy
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:18:00 -
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For the CORP tools for Rev 2.
THANK GOD! it's about time we had those tools :D
Some of the freighter changes sound fair. I just hope that some of the unforeseen consequences aren't too bad.
CCP.. I'm impressed.. now let's see if you guys can deploy on schedule :D
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Hoshi
Blackguard Brigade Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Caligulus Sooo...it was kind of vague on this point. Can frieghters now loot jetcans? They can loot wrecks but does it include j-cans? Can I mine in a belt with a freighter alt scooping the ore? =O
From the description I would say no. The only thing they can loot is Freighter wrecks (and not any other wrecks either). ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |
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DeckardIRL
Bravehearts Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:23:00 -
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Changes esp to Freighters being useable at a POS long overdue and indeed welcome.
Corp Management also requires shares register management so that directors can see who own shares in a corp. PLease include this in 1.4.2.
Deck _____________________________________________ Xelas Fleet Admiral
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Aeryn Davenport
Claflin Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: ae1 One option is to localize the wars. Instead of PA dec'ing everyone, now the corps get to. Each corp gets 10 dec's with isk and some guidance from PA. If you want to fight in a different region, just join a gang already there, and pew pew to your hearts content. This isn't the end of PA (so all you empire CB's can start your whining once again) we'll just adapt to the game as CCP modifies the rules. PA is here to stay, and killing in empire is what we do. Get used to it.
You do know there's a 3 war limit for individual corps declaring wars right? The reason PA worked was because there's no limit to wardecs for an alliance. However, corps are limited to declaring a maximum of three wars.
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Ab Tallen
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:34:00 -
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I don't dare ask what happens when a freighter wreck is salvaged before it has been looted...
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Jonas Umbator
Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:36:00 -
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so does that imply that we get 10 wars at baseprice (50 * 10 = 500) before wardec fees are compounded?
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Xanenal
Wolfenrecon 1 Shot 1 Kill
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:37:00 -
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Supercapital construction just got a LOT easier.
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Pang Grohl
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:41:00 -
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Joy! for wallet love & better remote management stuff. Did I read the new war dec rules correctly? Per the example "p" will be paying 550m*11/week? Ouch.
Si non adjuvas, noces (If you're not helping, you're hurting) |
Sorted
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Oro Sarmasa
Originally by: Sorted
Originally by: Siege But, now that freighters are going to be officially dropping loot, expect many more smaller pirate corps to use the war-dec system to empty you out.
Expect us to have what wars we can and spend the rest of the time ganking pasing frieghters lol
YARRRR
I know I ticked you off in the other thread, but I seriously SUPPORT piracy in EVE. It keeps things interesting... but come on, having the ability to legally murder anyone who leaves a NPC corp for a few bucks is just silly.
Pick and choose your wars, or better yet, go to lowsec and kill everything in sight!
Aye it was just unfair to presume we dont loose ships or have our problems with hostile gangs on PRIVS hunts. I havent been to jita in 3 months (and that was shopping lol) I just enjoyed the cat and mouse, small gang skirmish warfare Empire and an abundance of Hostile Allainces provides. there always a gnag "bringing it" and careless people to plunder and hunt. But that was the players at fault, for every Wartarget we caught another evdaded (scouts, ship choice, scanner + Local)....
Piracy is needed, definatly. I just think that the nerf bat hit too hard, unless I get chance to crunch some numbers with the Le skunk and Surrep I cant say for sure how hard...but its bad. i think
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:55:00 -
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More suggestion for the corp interface improvements: - Corp to Alliance standings (and/or ability to let POSses use alliance standings to alliance standings to determine whether to shoot or not) - 3 more corp hangars, make it an even 10. - POS management: give us a role that allows people to drop fuel in POSses, but NOTHING else. I.e. make it possible to share the burden of refueling POSses without opening up all POSses to spies. - And check the issue in my sig while you're at it. 5 Months is too long.
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Vicious Phoenix
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Posted - 2007.04.17 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sorted Piracy is needed, definatly. I just think that the nerf bat hit too hard, unless I get chance to crunch some numbers with the Le skunk and Surrep I cant say for sure how hard...but its bad. i think
Hard enough it will cost you 5 bil/week to have 10 active wars.
I officially approve of all of the changes in this post and applaud CCP for these excellent changes.
CFW (Certified Forum Warrior) I kill people ingame too. |
Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.17 21:00:00 -
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Yeah, lets nerf Banana again.
Did your cheating alliance devs take orders from their alliance bosses who told them to do something about the empire wars.
It looks that way to me.
Well, **** you CCP.
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