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Valandril
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.04.20 17:43:00 -
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"# The Nyx's Deployed Fighters damage per level has been lowered to 5%, replacing the current 10% bonus, thus bringing the Nyx in line with other motherships. "
There you go, u whined, complained on forums daily and it got nerfed to "bring it in line", but most cap ship pilots will tell you that evil 5% tank of amarr/caldari carriers > 5% damage.
Ah well gg whiners, what will be next ? ---
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Amelis Laucian
Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.20 17:46:00 -
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Edited by: Amelis Laucian on 20/04/2007 17:42:32 I thought that was always just a typo in the description?
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dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.04.20 17:47:00 -
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Has this actually been tested, or has it just been a typo all the time?
Originally by: Valandril but most cap ship pilots will tell you that evil 5% tank of amarr/caldari carriers > 5% damage.
Why would you need to be a cap pilot? Obviously, everyone can see that 0.75*1.25 < 1 But also understand that in situations where both tanks would either fail or hold, the damage bonus might be better.
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Nidhoggur
The Movement
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Posted - 2007.04.20 17:49:00 -
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Hypocrisy, tbh.
It's even worse that you not only whine in the content of your thread, but your signature too
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Kery Nysell
Caldari Nysell Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.04.20 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Kery Nysell on 20/04/2007 17:48:03 A whine to complain about whines ...
1/10
And please, check your definition of "silent" ... nothing silent about it when it's posted in the patch notes four days before said patch ...
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Jayne Tamm
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Posted - 2007.04.20 18:08:00 -
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lol
its not a question of whining...but aquestion of balancing!
the nyx was overpowered...no doubts...after next patch it wont be!
simple as that!
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.04.20 18:09:00 -
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Maybe we'll see the other MS's now...
(Yes, I know there's some Aeons out there, but you don't hear about them doing cool **** =P)
Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY
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Doppleganger
Minmatar Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.04.20 18:11:00 -
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I'm confused how is it a silent nerf if its posted in the patch notes? No one reads them besides me?
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Kery Nysell
Caldari Nysell Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.04.20 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Doppleganger I'm confused how is it a silent nerf if its posted in the patch notes? No one reads them besides me?
The OP even quoted the patch notes ... I think he had too much booze, or forgot to turn on his brain ...
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Aramendel
Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.20 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: dalman Has this actually been tested, or has it just been a typo all the time?
It has been 10% in the database all the time. While descriptions can be wrong whats in the database usually reflects the ship stats.
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Karma Coma
The Rising Stars
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Posted - 2007.04.20 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Nicocat Maybe we'll see the other MS's now...
(Yes, I know there's some Aeons out there, but you don't hear about them doing cool **** =P)
Thats because there is a whole frenzy about 'gallente online' and, the nyx looks better This may sound stupid but alot of people who could afford it would have trained for the nyx since gal bs is the only seperating skill.
Also it does matter that these people were not carrier pilots since alot of them have never even seen one but feel the need to post, sit in a station browse ships they want, find this difference in 10% - and even though its damage vs resist/boost bonuses feel they have a breakthrough.
Sorry, I dont even own a nyx or a nanoship or a dominix (not for pvp) but im really getting sick of these noob whines. granted some concerns are legitimate but when you read to posts you realize alot of these players are just lacking in skill or knowledge of the game.. ie: posting the dominix is overpowered and then give it the wrong number of midslots in their explainationg.
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Horza Otho
Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.04.20 18:48:00 -
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Your signature + your whiner whine = lol.
Also, take a look at how privateers got nerfed thne look at how the nyx got --->BALLANCED<---
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Helen
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.04.20 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nicocat Maybe we'll see the other MS's now...
(Yes, I know there's some Aeons out there, but you don't hear about them doing cool **** =P)
Man I wish I had screenies of me tanking a Large POS and 100 Hostiles that was kewl! Aeon > all.
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Cursed Ra
Suffoco Noctis Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:08:00 -
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It should have been 5% from the start, just like all the other carriers.
No more talking for you.
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Aramendel
Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Karma Coma Thats because there is a whole frenzy about 'gallente online' and, the nyx looks better
Or maybe because the thanatos has only a 5% bonus as well. They nyx was the only mothership which had a bigger bonus than it's carrier version - that might tell you something.
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Ange1
Gallente The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: Ange1 on 20/04/2007 19:36:28 As nerfs go, it could've been so much worse. So it'll deal a little less damage, Hera is still going to rip everything she finds to pieces
The Establishment is at your service...
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Oedus Caro
Caldari Cross Roads
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Valandril "# The Nyx's Deployed Fighters damage per level has been lowered to 5%, replacing the current 10% bonus, thus bringing the Nyx in line with other motherships. "
There you go, u whined, complained on forums daily and it got nerfed to "bring it in line", but most cap ship pilots will tell you that evil 5% tank of amarr/caldari carriers > 5% damage.
Ah well gg whiners, what will be next ?
Am I the only one to detect bitterness in this statement?
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Ozzie Asrail
Exploited
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Posted - 2007.04.20 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Helen
Originally by: Nicocat Maybe we'll see the other MS's now...
(Yes, I know there's some Aeons out there, but you don't hear about them doing cool **** =P)
Man I wish I had screenies of me tanking a Large POS and 100 Hostiles that was kewl! Aeon > all.
/signed -----
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iudex
Caldari Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.20 20:53:00 -
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That was a right decision. I wonder why it was not 5% from the start.
And its not true that 5% resistance is > than 5 % damage. You can easy get that 25% extra resistnace with 1 module. Faction modules (and you can expect people will fit faction/officer modules on a mothership) make that 25% even rediculous (e.g. for shields: dread gurista invul: 37.5%). But there is no way to get 25% damage increase with 1 module. So that 25% damage are more worth then the 25% resistance. The Nyx is still better than other motherships, only that it's not so much and scandaleous better than it was before.
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Caletha Reborn
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: Caletha Reborn on 20/04/2007 21:00:31
Originally by: Helen
Originally by: Nicocat Maybe we'll see the other MS's now...
(Yes, I know there's some Aeons out there, but you don't hear about them doing cool **** =P)
Man I wish I had screenies of me tanking a Large POS and 100 Hostiles that was kewl! Aeon > all.
You wherent tanking them so well in YM-
I'm sorry that was mean
I ran some senario's comparing the Aeon and Nyx tank I came up with. The difference in tank only really shines when you are talking about huge amounts of dps where either ships will die within 5 minutes.
If you take a high tank time (e.g. 1700 seconds), you'd need 6500 dps to break a Nyx tank and 7800 dps (give or take a bit) to break a Aeon's tank. Not a huge difference there, its still a difference but not huge.
If you look at a more 'realistic' amount of seconds, e.g. 300 seconds, the picture changes a little. The Aeon's tank breaking in that time with around 16500dps, while the Nyx will break in with around 13000dps.
Though when you look at the 'extreme dps' (50000dps), things dont matter that much anymore, with the Nyx breaking in 60 seconds and the Aeon setup breaking 74 seconds.
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Valandril
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:05:00 -
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Ok ok enuff let old man be drunk from time to time :P ---
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