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Danielle Steele
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Posted - 2007.04.21 11:39:00 -
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it is my duty to inform all shareholders of recent events. First some history.
My Main is Ricky Baby - i have known Agif ( Roule/N0bird ) for coming onto 8 months from when i first met him in Beagle. During January we decide that PvP was hurting our wallets and decided to do something so we move our alts into a industrial alliance to make some isk, we then ploughed all the money into funding a capital ship production line. as this would take a while with just us mining for a few hours a week we decided to run an IPO to raise the funds to build the company - with the intent to make ourself's enough money to play. Agif did most of the legwork in this - i just helped him with ideas and maths.
so the IPO went live and it was a slow thing, Agif put a few billion from his own assets into corp. i did the same. after that we were getting a steady yet smallish stream of offers from the public buying of the shares. we also had a few members from Beagle/the kennels buying shares including a lump sum amounting to 4billion isk. over the next month or so i logged my alt on - fueled the pos and generally made sure the pos was running, while Agif opened up DEVS as a industrial corp within the FTZ.
we made a fair wack of money with corp ops and buying high end's cheap in 0.0 and running them into empire - not billions but enough to buy a cap component BPO every other month. to hopefully move into carrier construction. about one week ago Agif "sold" Agif for a sum as he was low on funds. this was a surprise but at the time i thought nothing of it. then, excusing the pun, the **** hit the fan.
i logged on yesterday just after downtime to sort out the POS, to find my alts roles had been removed. after further inspection all alts and characters that i had and a friend had had there roles removed. this sparked a few alarm bells that i tried my best to explain away - but could not. after trying to get in contact with Agif i found that the Characters he controlled were moved out of the corps they were in. after emailing the character Roule it turned out that the char had been sold about a week ago - but not transferred for around a week - matching up to the past day when he actually left the corp. Me and a few other members of The Kennels searched the forums and found a few bids by his character for other characters and sale thread for Roule.
in closing. Roule has been sold to a third party, (sorry mate as you said - a rotten apple), N0bird is presumed to be still his, Agif i believe is also a third party. also the Char tha mast3r - more than likely will be recycled.
Approximate losses. roughly 6-7 billion in shareholders isk in the form of 2 freighter BPO's and Capital construction parts - upwards of 1 bilion in high end min's a liquid capital from the Devine Industries wallet.
while not the biggest scam/theft in the game - it hurts - he was a *** that over the past 8 months earn't my trust and friendship. these obviously meant nothing to him. as for the isk i lost myself - i don't care - i apologise to you all if you have lost out in this. my last words. Roule - i hope it was ******* worth it.
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Ricky Baby
The Kennels Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 11:40:00 -
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Danielle Steele is my alt. ------------------------------------- WTB: Corp
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vyperpit
Gallente Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:01:00 -
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This comes as a complete shock to me, honestly. I didn't know Roule that well, but he didn't seem like the person to do something like this
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Eefrit
Eve Financial Services
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:19:00 -
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Sorry to see another IPO turn out to be a scam.
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Dave White
The Kennels
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:27:00 -
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I have lost a 4b investment and a good friend in this scam. I never expected him to backstab us like this after we've known eachother for so long.
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Dearwin
The Kennels
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:31:00 -
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Very rarely does anything shock me anymore in this game, but I certainly was when I heard this news, it has also never been quite so grim.
Beagle Corp Fun
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Kuentai
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:35:00 -
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If a man's character can be determined by the price he will betray for, Roule really came up short :/.
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"The good man has few enemies, but the ruthless... None." |
Naesse
The Kennels Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:40:00 -
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Do I dare say to any alliance out there that if you have a new/upcoming mothership pilot applying... well, could be him. Keep your assets close.
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Ray McCormack
BIG
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kuentai If a man's character can be determined by the price he will betray for, Roule really came up short :/.
Well, he seems to have managed to sell the character before it lost its reputation. So he's won on both counts. He's got full value for his character, and enough ISK now to buy another one without any reputation stains.
Seeing as the buyer didn't know of the reputation hit, could he claim unfair sale and get CCP to intervene?
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Kuentai
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:41:00 -
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I meant out of game character, as in the guy as a person. ---------------
"The good man has few enemies, but the ruthless... None." |
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Ex0dus
Clarity.
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:49:00 -
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Never would have expected this out of him. Sorry to anyone who lost out on this, especially losing a friend.
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:54:00 -
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I think half of ex-BI had Roule as personal permanent -10 for a long time anyway.
The whole Irmalin crew were a bit rotten tbh. I guess fascination over Isk will corrupt as easily as anything.
Good girls go to Heaven. Bad girls get drunk and pew pew in Delve. |
Krugerrand
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:55:00 -
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So, which char has walked away with the ISK?
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Ray McCormack
BIG
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kuentai I meant out of game character, as in the guy as a person.
Ah. Unfortunately that's worth bugger all in a virtual world.
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Chewan Mesa
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Krugerrand So, which char has walked away with the ISK?
A char called hardwomen seems to have sold some of his chars. But he prolly has other chars peeps dont know of.
I knew Roule since 2006 in Beagle, and was as many others pretty shocked when I heard about this.
Everyone was aware he was working towards a mom, but that he'd sell 2-3 of his accounts, scam his friends for years with an IPO and then run away also betraying RL friends was beyond what anyone thought possible.
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Ricky Baby
The Kennels Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Krugerrand So, which char has walked away with the ISK?
all indications show that n0bird got all the assets - if n0bird is still under his control is a different matter ------------------------------------- WTB: Corp
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Kuentai
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Kuentai I meant out of game character, as in the guy as a person.
Ah. Unfortunately that's worth bugger all in a virtual world.
Someone you can trust to work with is of far more value than isk. Because if you work with someone you can't trust the you are inevitably making no isk because it is going to dissappear at some point :P. ---------------
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente easyCredits Event-Horizon
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:03:00 -
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Sorry to hear this. But Beagle had other known Corp-Thiefs, like Kali Cortez.
The sad thing in EVE is, that regardless what these people do to their friends. There are more then enough that do not care .
I am truely sorry about what happened to you and your IPO, but you can expect a full-flamefest from the "community" and the Thief will most likely find another corp.
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Necronomicon
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:33:00 -
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I am 50/50 whether or not I would petition this, and I will tell you why.
He has stolen from your corporation/alliance - Not illegal on its own.
He has sold his character(s) for gain - Not illegal either (unless for cash)
BUT, when you put the 2 togetehr in close timing, it could be said that without the scam part, he could ill afford to sell the characters, as buying similar skilled chars would put him back to square one. Therefore he has used ingame and out of game methods (selling the chars) to accomplish a profit. Also very dubious that he managed to time the sale of his chars so precisely unless he knew (or is indeed) the buyer of his own chars on another account.
Bit of a gray area, but I would try asking a GM on the ingame/out of game aspects.
Carlsberg dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:36:00 -
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This is why IPO's don't work well in eve. There is no risk in it, just a bunch of time that needs to be invested. With character laundering, it it impossible to hold the person accountable.
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Chewan Mesa
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon Sorry to hear this. But Beagle had other known Corp-Thiefs, like Kali Cortez.
Sorry, but proof, or stfu.
Kali never stole anything from Beagle, nor attempted to. If you want to drag a name through the mud, and want to cause consequences for her, you better back it up with facts please.
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Frothgar
Caldari Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.21 16:27:00 -
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Looks like Roule's price for the ol Soul was a lot cheaper than anyone would have thought.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente easyCredits Event-Horizon
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Posted - 2007.04.21 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Deviana Sevidon on 21/04/2007 16:46:54
Quote: Sorry, but proof, or stfu.
I never said she stole from Beagle. But she is a Thief. If you want to know from which corp she stole you only have to check our employment histories.
Kali can be pretty nice for a long time, until the moment she snaps and robs the corp blind because she felt so.
Oh, and the post I made was not about Kali. The only point was: Regardless how often you warn about a thief, they do not have to many problems finding a new corp.
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Elliott Manchild
omen. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.21 16:51:00 -
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Cant believe ANYONE would do such a thing to mates for such a small amount of ISK.
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Li Fei
Ferinus Vis
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Posted - 2007.04.21 17:09:00 -
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As an old friend to Agif, it's sad to see such event happen. Just lost all my respect if this is indeed true. ---------------
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hardwomen
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Posted - 2007.04.21 17:22:00 -
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First off I'd like to announce that im the character formerly known as Agif/Roule, id announce that i never have and will never con a friend out of his isk, a corporations currently been set-up with shares going out to the friends who invested around 4.5 billion between them, they shall see there money back with interest, the rest of eve can go ****.
Its all come at a time where i currently have to change my life and i shall have to put most of my old eve hours on hold, I have had a promotion which takes too much time up and a new HOT girlfriend thats taking most of my spare time up. I can still do the industry but not much else around it. All characters bar one have been kept and i have received around 17billion for my 3 main characters on top of gaining around 7billion in new assets that will now be put into something that will earn me around 2billion a month to stack up for when my game time will increase.
I require a change and a fresh start in eve, though Roule has served me very well in the past his antics and n00bish mistakes when starting this game gave him a kinda mixed reputation, people either loved him or hated him, I didnt have the time to make a success of the kennels without my own reputation amongst friends family and work been put in a bad light, and so its all come together.
The kennels can still run if people put the time and effort in, but to **** the rest of eve up and stay with you guys would have only brought your reputations down aswell as mine, so i had to go and do the unexpected, i love you all, my friends wont be left out of pocket and will gain the income they wanted from this.
I wont be replying to any flames in this thread.
GL and Fly safe all.
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Vandrion
RABBLE-RABBLE Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.04.21 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon Sorry to hear this. But Beagle had other known Corp-Thiefs, like Kali Cortez.
I have known Kali for a year now....Not a thief...
proof or stfu
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Krugerrand
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.21 17:58:00 -
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Interesting
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James 315
Yet Another CAOD-Inspired 1-Man Alt Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.21 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: hardwomen I have had a promotion which takes too much time up and a new HOT girlfriend thats taking most of my spare time up.
Yes, but can she kickbox?
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Gabba
The Three Hundred
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Posted - 2007.04.21 18:31:00 -
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You can only transfer characters when they are in the noobcorp, isnt selling the entire account against EULA?
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