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zwerg
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: zwerg on 21/04/2007 12:00:15 hello fellow piwats who know GM, hate him, love him, respect or not respect him. Since i've been in Snowy, and left again because getting shouted was just not going on.
Example: Nano-Bs Gang, all over 5000m/s attacking member of snowy 200km outside station ( after bumpage ) so ginger was like KILL THEM, and GET THE FACTION LOOT and LESS TIME TO MY MOTHERSHIP and blabla. and i said:
Ginger, this is suicide, they have 6 nano-bs, and im the only hugginn pilot in here, its just ridicioulus.
member with the nano'ed BS: ye now rly we dont stand a chance against that, its no problem for me rly now.
ginger: STFU ZWERG I WILL POD YOU FOR THAT YOURE NOT THE (&%)$%%$ CEO BLABLABLABLA KILL YOU, EAT YOUR FUTURE BABIES; BALBALBLABLABLA. NOW GO OUT AND WEB THEM.
okay, so i did, just to show him what an idiot he is getting all us into that fight.
well it is pretty much obvious what happened after that.... well and he didnt want to talk about it anymore.
So back to the fact why me, and many others left SNOWY ( as you might have read in tillers thread ) : http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=509148
Well the corp policy was simple: Gatecamp > Giving loot ginger > loot away > noone gets split = poor members, happy ceo.
i havent had a problem with this since i had enough money myself, but ive seen the other members which havent had any money like this one:
( original chatlog i saved just for this )
Player1 > ginger, can i maybe have this med shield booster II for my cyclone Ginger Magician > for what? we collect the loot for my ms Player1 > ahh okay.. np
i mean wtf?! a medium shield booster II, worth maybe 500k, and this guy is too greedy to give it to him? Well it came that the player1 up there lives in the same town as me and we talked about it and so on. He just started eve 2 month back and havent had much money.
Well then i left snowy rejoining my friends in muffins ( some from rl too ) to have fun "TOGEHTER" again and now for the CEO, stupid fricking dicatorship or whatever its called.
The reason why i left: -Snowy leadership is crap, ive seen this in many cases. -I've seen people leaving Snowy because the CEO is shouting at them the whole day, telling stories which are not true ( soon to come ) -The way the corp was running.
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15 days later i see that tiller left snowy aswell, himself wasnt online, so i contact ginger in msn: zwergiiii sagt: hey there Ginger Magician sagt: heyja zwergiiii sagt: why did tilz leave? any special reason? Ginger Magician sagt: well, he is greedy and wants just more and more isk.
short input:
zwergiiii sagt: ahhh yeah?! how can someone be greedy in your corp? i mean everyhting goes to you? Ginger Magician sagt: thats not true, not everything, well almost....
blabla, these chatlogs prove that ginger said tiller is greedy. okay sure, i know tiller so long now and he is the last one who would be greedy. I mean splitting loost between gang members ginger hasnt been a part of is called greedy now or what?
well i dont think so.
So when tiller comes on i talk to him ingame about why he left. Then he told me that ginger convoed him and asked him to leave because he is too greedy and doesnt accept corp policies. So he formed his new corp with people from SNOWY and others who were the same opinion like him ( including me ). He told me that he only split the loot from a non "GM" camp between the members and didnt gave anything to corp ( which is right imo )
okay then i was waiting for ginger to come on to tell him ( yeah its like i did it ) what a ludacris bullSH I T he is telling me about tiller and his leaving:
see next post...
... eve's youngest piwat Yarrrr :)
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zwerg
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: zwerg on 21/04/2007 12:19:54 Edited by: zwerg on 21/04/2007 12:11:28 urmel in <3 is me in here, now just have a look how he is telling lying stories when he doesnt know how to defense his onw stupididy or just to say that he was wrong:
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: what the hell u telling me that tiller is greedy?
Ginger Magician sagt: why
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: well he wasnt greedy @ all, he just told you his ******* opininion
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: i mean you read his forum threaD?
Ginger Magician sagt: nope
Ginger Magician sagt: link it
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: sec
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=509148
Ginger Magician sagt: ill take a look
Ginger Magician sagt: busy with corp business right now
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: lol yeh..,.
Ginger Magician sagt: i am talking with a member oin msn if u must know
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: if i must what know?
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: ah now i got it
Ginger Magician sagt: hold on
Ginger Magician sagt: what do u want anyway
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: no the the word " corp-policy" made me rofl
Ginger Magician sagt: im gonna come and kill u btw
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: lmao
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: sure
Ginger Magician sagt: i know u stole a lot of loot from snwoy
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: what?
Ginger Magician sagt: ur boutny will pay for some of it
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: when did i steal loot
Ginger Magician sagt: running to the can first
Ginger Magician sagt: im sure u took some valuable items
Ginger Magician sagt: u must have done Input: I never did and will never.
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: and then shouting WOWOOO FACTION LOOK GINGER
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: ye sure, think what you want
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: what i want:
Ginger Magician sagt: i know it mate
Ginger Magician sagt: ur a famous corp theif
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: ye sure, dont call me your m8
Ginger Magician sagt: no honour nothing
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: of couse LOL
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: ye sure
Ginger Magician sagt: just a scumbag
Ginger Magician sagt: now **** off
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: what corp did i steal from?
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: tell me
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: come on liar
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: do it
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: you wont find one
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: now that you have nothing to answer anymore because i killed your e-peen you just say **** off, lol you know how poor you are, "im gonna kill you" ohhh noes, eve's worst story teller is coming after me, omfg, then telling that im a thief, sure lol, i always put everything into your hangar, i mean wtf
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: this is just poor, telling tiller is greedy, just one thing: YOU ARE THE GREEDY ONE
urm0el!!¦¦ in <3 sagt: u are not offline, but well i dont wanna talk to people which got no brain
these are originals from before 15minutes.
Just to clearify:
i havent stolen from any corp at all and im not gonna do it. but imo gingers doing is stealing from his own members.
Edit:
Ginger Magician now officially "blocked me" on msn and told me what an a s s i was because i openend this thread and that this is all not true and blabla .
Oh and yeah, he told me to collect the loot while i had snake implants and was the only movable cruiser at the gate ( huginn )...
oh and another great "GM" acting here ( unfortunately i lost the log but anyways : )
Well he convoed me while we camped and told me following:
I shall not tell him on vent what to do in fron of members, better inviting him to a private convo to tell him. That i am right in my decisions and often have better plans than himself, but i just have to get that he is CEO and that his word counts and noone else got to say anything...
... eve's youngest piwat Yarrrr :)
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Heikki
Gallente Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:04:00 -
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I pretty much agree with you that Ginger isn't here to show respect for other humans.
But are you sure you want to give us image, that once you run into corp which you don't fit in, you're eager to smack them in public?
-Lasse
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zwerg
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:05:00 -
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Edited by: zwerg on 21/04/2007 12:01:33
Originally by: Heikki I pretty much agree with you that Ginger isn't here to show respect for other humans.
But are you sure you want to give us image, that once you run into corp which you don't fit in, you're eager to smack them in public?
-Lasse
i do not smack them.
these are all facts and original chatlogs from ginger. just to show you how he is. and btw "them" is wrong here it is "him"
... eve's youngest piwat Yarrrr :)
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William DeMeo
Gallente Serial Killers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:07:00 -
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Somebody please record Ginger on TS Yarr |
Vrabac
Amarr Shadowed Souls
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:19:00 -
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If he REALLY yells at you on vent/ts you are all idiots to be in his corp in the first place. Plain and simple.
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zwerg
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Vrabac If he REALLY yells at you on vent/ts you are all idiots to be in his corp in the first place. Plain and simple.
yep how right you are here. now really vrabac, i got that too, and i was stupid.
... eve's youngest piwat Yarrrr :)
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MassonA
Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:39:00 -
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stick it to the man!
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Dionisius
Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Vrabac If he REALLY yells at you on vent/ts you are all idiots to be in his corp in the first place. Plain and simple.
Agreed. _______________________
What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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ZuN3
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:00:00 -
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I did/do have respect for GM. The loot policy was why I was going to leave. Then Ginger kicked me from the corp with no explanation and hasn't even tried to contact me to tell me why, which is just not on IMO. Maybe he saw that I had removed my roles and acted on that, but still.
SNOWY had/has the potential to be a great pirate corp, but I don't think it ever will with the 'corp is mother' attitude. It's only really beneficial if you're a cap ship pilot, which I am not.
I still stand by my opinion that SNOWY did have the most effective low sec gate camps going. I can't say if they still do after quite a few of the members have left. But from what I've seen and participated in they were the most effective I've ever seen.
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Stakhanov
Shih Yang Tong
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:01:00 -
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Seriously... what were you expecting ? That behind his inarticulate arrogant verbiage , he was a clever and charismatic leader ? Come on
You folks thought octobersnow would bring you fame and glory , now you realize you have a nasty stain on your employment history. Well deserved , I'd say
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Velsharoon
Gallente Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:01:00 -
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Well its sad you actually thought you could have a home in snowy. But gl to the rest of the pirate coalition guys and remember: always join decent and honourable corps, they have the rep for a reason.
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Nyck
Not Your Common Killers
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: zwerg Edited by: zwerg on 21/04/2007 12:01:33
Originally by: Heikki I pretty much agree with you that Ginger isn't here to show respect for other humans.
But are you sure you want to give us image, that once you run into corp which you don't fit in, you're eager to smack them in public?
-Lasse
i do not smack them.
these are all facts and original chatlogs from ginger. just to show you how he is. and btw "them" is wrong here it is "him"
You type like a drunken sailor, then have the nerve to correct someone else? Classy. Other than that, good read.
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zwerg
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Nyck
Originally by: zwerg Edited by: zwerg on 21/04/2007 12:01:33
Originally by: Heikki I pretty much agree with you that Ginger isn't here to show respect for other humans.
But are you sure you want to give us image, that once you run into corp which you don't fit in, you're eager to smack them in public?
-Lasse
i do not smack them.
these are all facts and original chatlogs from ginger. just to show you how he is. and btw "them" is wrong here it is "him"
You type like a drunken sailor, then have the nerve to correct someone else? Classy. Other than that, good read.
laugh at me, flame me i dont care, the only thing you have to know is that i only have 1 n a half year english lessons in school, so stfu
... eve's youngest piwat Yarrrr :)
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Ask Unbeatable
Gallente HighTech Marines Ltd. FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:23:00 -
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I lol'd
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Niko Fugiwara
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:26:00 -
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damn and i thought i was gonna get to see a pic of his face ;/
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Aakron
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:32:00 -
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o.0 forum drama ---
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vile56
Nubs. D-L
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:49:00 -
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*vile56 spawns gm for forum smack fest
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hUssmann
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:06:00 -
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I thought you were posting a RL pic, shame, I was going to doodle on it.
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Phoenix Lonestar > Server lag was non-existant pre Dragon.
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:07:00 -
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tbh i heard about this loot thing a while ago from several of ur members and it made me chuckle. i'm surprised you guys stuck around for as long as you did. you've always been better than Snowy dude and you know it.
ppl will always want to fly with GM and be in his corp because quite frankly he is very well known and ppl like that, but really it will get to the point when he realises why ppl fly with him, not because they actually like or respect him. He'll change how he treats ppl one day. He is actually a nice guy talking to him, he just needs to re-think his attitude towards some ppl a little.
DE
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Templer Relleg
Exit 13 Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:09:00 -
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So when are you getting your mothership, GM?
I cant wait to see what GM is gonna reply to this thread
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:27:00 -
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Ginger is best pvper on earths he says!!11
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Drunk Driver
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:40:00 -
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Go to the zoo. Watch the chips eat their own pooh.
Then you will have a good idea what this thread is about.
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Umoek
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:43:00 -
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yea that guy is a nut
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zwerg
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf tbh i heard about this loot thing a while ago from several of ur members and it made me chuckle. i'm surprised you guys stuck around for as long as you did. you've always been better than Snowy dude and you know it.
ppl will always want to fly with GM and be in his corp because quite frankly he is very well known and ppl like that, but really it will get to the point when he realises why ppl fly with him, not because they actually like or respect him. He'll change how he treats ppl one day. He is actually a nice guy talking to him, he just needs to re-think his attitude towards some ppl a little.
DE
i got that too now. but there is one fault in your post elfy :) i DIDNT join snowy because of ginger magician, tbh i didnt know much about him before, i joined because of tillz, and tub, just because i liked flying with them and still do.
... eve's youngest piwat Yarrrr :)
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Rico Naginata
Wings of Redemption Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:44:00 -
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omg he kicked zun3? then he's actually undeniably ghey.
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zwerg
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rico Naginata omg he kicked zun3? then he's actually undeniably ghey.
well he kinda kicked tilz too, he was like asking him in a kind way since he knows that tilz is just a better pirate than himself. but still u right m8 .............
... eve's youngest piwat Yarrrr :)
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: zwerg
i got that too now. but there is one fault in your post elfy :) i DIDNT join snowy because of ginger magician, tbh i didnt know much about him before, i joined because of tillz, and tub, just because i liked flying with them and still do.
Right. I wasn't really referring to you there, just saying in general ppl will always fly with him because they like to think they are getting in on the fame. Didn't think that was the reason of you joining though. Well i wish you luck in the future. Maybe u can hook up with Tiller and co in the future under different leadership.
DE
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LittleTerror
Caldari kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:53:00 -
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WTF
Linkage
Well anyway I left snowy after only a week I think, I could sense bad negitive vibes and it was simply not the corp for me. Tiller is no greedy man, GM has it totally wrong, I made about 60 mill isk from loot split yesterday, was a nice suprize since thats the most I have made from pirating since I was in Payus. Also Tiller handed me his rokh just so I could put it to good use, I would not say hes greedy |
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hango
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.04.21 15:12:00 -
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Posting chatlogs is not permitted in this subforum, as stated in the rules. Additionally, this thread is flamebait, as such I'm going to lock it.
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