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ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.01.30 12:54:37 -
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I got lineup of specialized complexes in Pakkonen that sees low sec boosts to rigs. Currently the tax is 1%, but I may readjust that once and if I reach 10 index for defense and actually getting cash flow (currently my 1% tax amounts to index*1%= to like 6 figures at wild best.) |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.01.30 14:30:44 -
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ST8 ACTOR wrote:I got lineup of specialized complexes in Pakkonen that sees low sec boosts to rigs. Currently the tax is 1%, but I may readjust that once and if I reach 10 index for defense and actually getting cash flow (currently my 1% tax amounts to index*1%= to like 6 figures at wild best.) Interesting, will check out ... do you have a reprocessing service and rig in each complex? Without that, customers would have to deal with huge mineral transports to lowsec. What is your defense strategy?
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ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.01.30 15:26:12 -
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I'm not doing reprocessing in so far as I don't even have any manufacturing set up. In so far the strategy was to not post about it in forums with vulnerability windows and attack timelines falling on AU tz workdays (minus friday). There's notification mailing list, and I'm looking to recruit people to get eyes on them raitarus so that I could get mercs on it before I go into armor.
Im thinking about setting up manufacturing first before negotiating for retainer with mercs not that I have found any in AU tz. |
ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.01.30 17:32:38 -
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In terms of reprocessing I'd likely set it up in citadel with market since I don't belief there's actual time involved with doing reprocessing right? |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2017.01.30 18:23:48 -
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ST8 ACTOR wrote:In terms of reprocessing I'd likely set it up in citadel with market since I don't belief there's actual time involved with doing reprocessing right? You need either an Azbel (large EC) or a Fortizar (large Citadel) at minimum for a market service. However, T2 medium reprocessing rigs are far less expensive than large T2 rigs.
In an EC, the market service uses the same amount of fuel as a large POS, as there is no fuel reduction bonus.
Reprocessing and compression are instantaneous.
The Drilling Platforms expected by the end of 2017 will likely have bonus(es) for reprocessing. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.01.30 18:49:05 -
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ST8 ACTOR wrote:In terms of reprocessing I'd likely set it up in citadel with market since I don't belief there's actual time involved with doing reprocessing right? The reprocessing is a big convenience for manufacturers, if you install in the same station as the manufacturing service (not needed for research, invention). Compressed ore is the most efficient way to transport minerals from a to b. Nobody wants to move freighter loads of stuff into lowsec and I'm not talking about jump freighters. Reprocessing service costs 5 block/h on top, T1 rig is sufficient. Just a suggestion, because I recently got the refining skills and switched operation to a complex with repro, which is a huge QoL increase.
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ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.02.08 00:41:57 -
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Will set up equipment/reprocessing/drones this week. |
ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.02.09 11:45:05 -
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It doesn't matter if I set up reprocessing in citadel or raitaru right? More so, l1 and l2 rigs are just about ice, so I don't need those (they're expensive). |
ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.02.09 12:01:42 -
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Postponed until next week. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.02.09 15:08:39 -
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ST8 ACTOR wrote:It doesn't matter if I set up reprocessing in citadel or raitaru right? More so, l1 and l2 rigs are just about ice, so I don't need those (they're expensive). Bonus-wise it does not matter. From the manufacturer's perspective, if you have reprocessing and manufacturing in two different stations, a manufacturer who wants to save hauling space for T1 production, then still needs to haul the reprocessed minerals from one station to the other. Much easier than from system to system, but best convenience would be a manufacturing complex having the reprocessing service locally T1 rigged for highsec ores (higher value minerals are low in volume). Of course this would be the more expensive solution.
I'm currently using a complex having both, with transporting Pyerite and higher, but getting the Tritanium from reprocessed compressed Veldspar (derivates) at ~75%. So my hauls in the DST went down from 5 to 2 and I even save money on the Trit (~3.75 ISK per Trit unit).
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ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.02.15 10:47:16 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:ST8 ACTOR wrote:It doesn't matter if I set up reprocessing in citadel or raitaru right? More so, l1 and l2 rigs are just about ice, so I don't need those (they're expensive). Bonus-wise it does not matter. From the manufacturer's perspective, if you have reprocessing and manufacturing in two different stations, a manufacturer who wants to save hauling space for T1 production, then still needs to haul the reprocessed minerals from one station to the other. Much easier than from system to system, but best convenience would be a manufacturing complex having the reprocessing service locally T1 rigged for highsec ores (higher value minerals are low in volume). Of course this would be the more expensive solution. I'm currently using a complex having both, with transporting Pyerite and higher, but getting the Tritanium from reprocessed compressed Veldspar (derivates) at ~75%. So my hauls in the DST went down from 5 to 2 and I even save money on the Trit (~3.75 ISK per Trit unit).
Does the 4% bonus make any difference? I'd imagine with 1 billion of ores, you lose about that much to reprocessing at that point, or is it amplified somehow? |
ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.02.15 11:56:03 -
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Considering changing tax to 10% since at 1% I made around 1.3m in 20 days. The best thing of all is that the system index is actually going down because it's calculated by system job hours against world wide job hours (with -40% time bonus it's bound to go down). I'd be looking to make 10m with the new taxes :P for under 20b investment. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.02.15 15:19:50 -
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Though the 4% lowsec bonus would be nice, the refining rig on a production complex is not that important, without and just the reprocessing service you get the base 50% right? In highsec it's 52% with rig, hence 2% less which is not much if you use it only for Veldspar (Trit). For me the selling point is, not to have to transport Tritanium at all.
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ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.02.16 09:19:55 -
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uh, right so you'd like me to set up reprocessing at every manufacturing station. I'll favor that then instead of setting up spec reprocessing provided I'm at least not entirely paying for the fuel myself at that point. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.02.16 12:17:15 -
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ST8 ACTOR wrote:uh, right so you'd like me to set up reprocessing at every manufacturing station. Yes, from a producer's point of view (who does also lots of T1 manufacturing).
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ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.02.20 11:43:50 -
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There's no time manufacturing rig for advanced components, so that's an excuse to still not equip the ECs. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.02.20 13:49:41 -
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ST8 ACTOR wrote:There's no time manufacturing rig for advanced components, so that's an excuse to still not equip the ECs. What about this one? https://market.fuzzwork.co.uk/type/43869/
EDIT: If you are talking about "there is none for sale" ... anyway I would buy the BPC and build yourself, it's cheaper that way.
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ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.02.21 21:33:20 -
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I imagine that may be why the market for this kind of stuff is lackluster. I belief I run costs for a couple of them rigs and they're not that marked up. |
ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.02.22 17:41:35 -
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Kind of raises another question, the trade volumes for manufacturing rigs where material efficiency is more valued. I by all means would probably like the jobs to take longer in my system, but isn't 20% (38% in my case) faster means you make 20% more instead of 2% more by cost savings: is it the wrong kind of more? I suppose that indy people could be such lazy asses that having their jobs 20% faster out of manufacturing lines not exactly translate to faster turn over rate. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.02.22 18:05:02 -
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Difficult topic, maybe you should do a survey. Some stuff benefit from high volumes, some (low volume) from high material savings. Also depends on skills and number of alts to multi-task.
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ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.02.22 18:08:48 -
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Meh I can't even set taxes by research type (CO/IN) since one is 2x as big as another so I'd be vastly undertaxing one, and overtaxing another, or tell where most of my money comes from. I'm only beginning to refuel with 4 hours to go until offline :P . Unless the profiles, anyway it's not terribly accommodating. |
Bentley Goodfriend
Honest Bentley and Associates
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Posted - 2017.02.23 14:44:20 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:Difficult topic, maybe you should do a survey. Some stuff benefit from high volumes, some (low volume) from high material savings. Also depends on skills and number of alts to multi-task.
A survey could be interesting but really wouldn't give any answers. The answer is of course; Yes and No.
JiT manufacturing and logistics is a proven strategy. Time will always be money, specially in HS. In most cases a measly 0.x ME bonus is dwarfed by a well executed JiT plan. But...if there is no way you can follow up and adhere to the strategy because of limited game time, manpower, capable infrastructure, sourcing, etc etc. etc. it is obviously a bad plan. Further, if your local (main/what you can cover) market is not suited you will also struggle. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.02.24 10:24:52 -
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I'm producing with just the 15% TE bonus and 10 lines atm, and with my skills it's enough to squeeze most of the stuff into the 24h cycle I prefer. Also the real bottleneck is the time it needs to sell, and the time I'm able or want to play the 0.01 ISK game. Sometimes I'm supplying 25% of the market that day, so doubling the output would be tricky. Hence a better per unit profit would suite me more than another time bonus with my current setup.
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ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.03.02 21:38:01 -
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I suppose I'll just try and get both of the rigs for t1/t2 components instead of one type for each with drones. |
ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.03.06 14:48:03 -
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Prices for fuel skyrocketed, but Im warming up to idea of building the rigs myself. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.19 19:10:01 -
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In case you didn't notice yet, all Raitarus were reinforced and are now offline, likely to die in about 5 days. Hence evac your stuff if you don't want to rely on asset safety.
Thanks to ST8 ACTOR, was a good and profitable time.
If somebody has more intel, would like to know who is shooting ...
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ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.04.22 18:56:24 -
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Macout was shooting from tuskars who make it their business to shoot structures. I mailed to my mailing list as I missed refueling deadline and that happened. I'm suppose to be talking to mercenary corp, and checking if it has gone into armor after I told him off with the ransome. |
ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.04.26 00:45:56 -
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Attack repelled, ECs armed |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.26 19:31:22 -
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Thanks! Honestly wasn't expecting this outcome.
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ST8 ACTOR
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Posted - 2017.05.29 10:08:30 -
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ECs shutting down in 9 days. After the attack people just moved out, will sell them if any one likes. |
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