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Ezeller
Amarr Darkwave Technologies Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.04.23 20:47:00 -
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If you cant harvest from moons in high sec why would you want a POS there?
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Hattur
Gallente Viktor Research Incoporated New Eden Research
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Posted - 2007.04.23 20:56:00 -
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Edited by: Hattur on 23/04/2007 20:52:45 I think that >90% of High Sec POS owners use it to anchor Mobile Laboratory for BPO research/copy.
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.04.24 08:14:00 -
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Mobile labs - no other reason whatsoever to anchor POS in high sec. With upcoming freighter changes perhaps they shall be a bit more reasonable as production platforms also. We will see.
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Miranda Duvall
Gallente OPM Holdings
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Posted - 2007.04.24 09:51:00 -
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The rapid assembly array can greatly boost your profit from T2 BPOs (50% more items produced per day, for a small sacrifice of some extra minerals/materials waste)
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Vasiliyan
Black Straw Research
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Posted - 2007.04.24 11:53:00 -
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Research. There is a really big demand for highsec poses.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.04.24 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Miranda Duvall The rapid assembly array can greatly boost your profit from T2 BPOs (50% more items produced per day, for a small sacrifice of some extra minerals/materials waste)
Unless you're producing an item that can't be made in a rapid assembly array. I found out through trial and error that a large number of things can't be made in them.
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George K'ntara
Gallente Pale Riders Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.04.25 04:59:00 -
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So how exactly would you make a profit off highsec POSes? Say a small caldari tower with 3 mobile labs? Are you just selling BPC's you've done your own research on or are you selling time to people to research and how much do you charge? |
XRay Blue
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Posted - 2007.04.25 07:50:00 -
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Useful things with a high sec POS:
a) Mobile lab (no more waiting 20 days until research begins) b) Rapid Equipment Assembly array (+20% material costs, +35% faster production) c) Ammunition Assembly Array (+25% faster ammunition production) d) Component Assembly Array (+25% faster component production)
Let¦s say you have a T2 BPO. The T2 item production cost is 200K, sell price 1 million, you can produce 20/day at a normal station. Makes a profit of 16 million per day. At a Rapid assembly array you can produce 27/day for production costs of 240K. Makes a profit of 20.5 millions per day. 4.5 millions more than at the station. Per year over a billion more profit.
For T1 BPOs the rapid assembly array should not be of interest as due to the +20% production costs you would have to sell it for less money than you need to produce the T1 item in most cases.
With mobile labs it¦s hard to make money as you can¦t really lease the slots to the public for a fee. Your customer would have to give you his BPO to research, you research the BPO for a fee and give it back to him when research has finished. But this needs a lot of trust between the envolved players.
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JdJinator
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Posted - 2007.04.25 10:34:00 -
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I just got one for my own convenience of fast research.
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MaVla
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.04.25 11:31:00 -
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Edited by: MaVla on 25/04/2007 11:28:45
Originally by: George K'ntara So how exactly would you make a profit off highsec POSes? Say a small caldari tower with 3 mobile labs? Are you just selling BPC's you've done your own research on or are you selling time to people to research and how much do you charge?
Your missing the point, not everyone wants to use a high sec pos to make a profit, the costs of running a small pos are not exactly high and the time saved doing material research / copying far outway the running costs.
MaVla.
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Xen'on
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.25 20:42:00 -
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Can you use reactors in highsec POSses? like react your raws into simple reactions and create advanced materials in a highsec POS?
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George K'ntara
Gallente Pale Riders Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.04.25 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: MaVla Edited by: MaVla on 25/04/2007 11:28:45
Originally by: George K'ntara So how exactly would you make a profit off highsec POSes? Say a small caldari tower with 3 mobile labs? Are you just selling BPC's you've done your own research on or are you selling time to people to research and how much do you charge?
Your missing the point, not everyone wants to use a high sec pos to make a profit, the costs of running a small pos are not exactly high and the time saved doing material research / copying far outway the running costs.
MaVla.
No I am asking my own questions based on what interests me. Also if you have worked yourself where not losing isk in a ventures in this game don't effect you anymore, good for you, but not all of us are to that point yet. It also seems silly to me if you are suggesting that you would do something intentionally that costs you isk that imo isn't that much fun, managing a POS but to each thier own. |
Professor Pizi
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Posted - 2007.04.26 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Xen'on Can you use reactors in highsec POSses? like react your raws into simple reactions and create advanced materials in a highsec POS?
ThxXen
no only o.3 and lower ...sadly
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Hajo Vosa
Gallente Corp Delivery Service
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Posted - 2007.04.26 11:24:00 -
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Quote: No I am asking my own questions based on what interests me. Also if you have worked yourself where not losing isk in a ventures in this game don't effect you anymore, good for you, but not all of us are to that point yet. It also seems silly to me if you are suggesting that you would do something intentionally that costs you isk that imo isn't that much fun, managing a POS but to each thier own.
First of all its your OWN place in Space. Second you can get Moonstuff from it, not so good like in LowSec, but good enough for T2-Production (Hydrocarbon for example). Third it takes 6h of Ice-Mining, and one LVL4 Kill-Mission to run it for 1 Week.(And that means for only one Man.!), that means not so much. Fourth free Labslots...Research without waiting. Finally when you like to make PVP you need Stuff, and for that are the Industrial Players, wich build it for you.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.26 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Chribba on 26/04/2007 11:26:50
Originally by: MaVla Edited by: MaVla on 25/04/2007 11:28:45
Originally by: George K'ntara So how exactly would you make a profit off highsec POSes? Say a small caldari tower with 3 mobile labs? Are you just selling BPC's you've done your own research on or are you selling time to people to research and how much do you charge?
Your missing the point, not everyone wants to use a high sec pos to make a profit, the costs of running a small pos are not exactly high and the time saved doing material research / copying far outway the running costs.
MaVla.
QFT! I happily pay the cost of it just not to have to roam around looking for a decent lab slot and then wait in line for 2 weeks before my job even starts. The freedom just to select a free slot at your own POS is def worth the cost.
Originally by: Hajo Vosa Second you can get Moonstuff from it, not so good like in LowSec, but good enough for T2-Production (Hydrocarbon for example).
Wrong, you can't anchor harvesting arrays in 0.5+ so no moon mining there even if the moon has material in it.
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Vincent Almasy
Gallente The Underground
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Posted - 2007.04.27 01:18:00 -
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people also sell research points to make up for the cost of the tower's fuel and then some
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