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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
2037
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Posted - 2017.02.19 10:27:31 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Egivand. You are inventing a bicycle with square wheels. Stop this heresy and leave it to someone who understands how analysis methods work. Dixi.
Said the soldier without a commander who has never built a single thing even once, and believes that it's possible to eyeball a frigate orbiting or making a 90 degrees flight trajectory at ranges beyond 20km and expect to hit with railguns.
I can even draft out a rough blueprint for such drones. I do not even need to draft out one from scratch even. Just get a contact in Pator Tech School to send me a blueprint of the modular drone chassis and work from there.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3046
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Posted - 2017.02.19 10:49:45 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Egivand. You are inventing a bicycle with square wheels. Stop this heresy and leave it to someone who understands how analysis methods work. Dixi. Said the soldier without a commander who has never built a single thing even once, and believes that it's possible to eyeball a frigate orbiting or making a 90 degrees flight trajectory at ranges beyond 20km and expect to hit with railguns. I can even draft out a rough blueprint for such drones. I do not even need to draft out one from scratch even. Just get a contact in Pator Tech School to send me a blueprint of the modular drone chassis and work from there. 1. I have a commander. 2. I've built more ships than you ever flew. 3. You've aboslutely zero knowledge about my tactics in a fight. 4. And yes, this simple Caldari soldier knows way more than that Minmatar "engineer" about science and construction.
So please be so kind, stop annoying me with your "pearls", and return back to welding your teapots.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
2260
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Posted - 2017.02.19 12:01:49 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Egivand. You are inventing a bicycle with square wheels. Stop this heresy and leave it to someone who understands how analysis methods work. Dixi. Said the soldier without a commander who has never built a single thing even once, and believes that it's possible to eyeball a frigate orbiting or making a 90 degrees flight trajectory at ranges beyond 20km and expect to hit with railguns. I can even draft out a rough blueprint for such drones. I do not even need to draft out one from scratch even. Just get a contact in Pator Tech School to send me a blueprint of the modular drone chassis and work from there. 1. I have a commander. 2. I've built more ships than you ever flew. 3. You've aboslutely zero knowledge about my tactics in a fight. 4. And yes, this simple Caldari soldier knows way more than that Minmatar "engineer" about science and construction. So please be so kind, stop annoying me with your "pearls", and return back to welding your teapots. Except that Elmund has the right idea. Drones are more then capable of gathering samples and physically running any analysis needed and sending back the data without placing anyone in harms way. It would basically be an upgraded AIMED taking samples and running them through any type of test imaginable. Might take a few different types of drones to cover all the different types of tests that need to be done, but basically we'd just be giving the machines we would use to run the tests a means to gather and prep their own samples. It's not beyond the scope of our technology.
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Rossanjiin Eskeitan
Guri Raiders
21
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Posted - 2017.02.19 14:41:49 -
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Merchant Rova wrote:I'll attempt to re-write this in a much kinder tone, implying that what Diana's saying is true.
"Hey there Elmund, there's no such thing as that, sorry to say. Chromatography separates mixture to identify its components and is used for gases and solutions.
3D crystal analysis is performed through x-ray diffraction because x-ray emission wavelength is comparable with interatomic distances in the crystal lattice.
If you need any help learning on these subjects, I'm sure I could help out - we all aren't the best at some things. Have a nice day!"
See? That was much more kind.
You should do this more often with her posts. I had a nice laugh, picturing her being more than a fart in the wind.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
2037
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Posted - 2017.02.20 10:49:33 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Egivand. You are inventing a bicycle with square wheels. Stop this heresy and leave it to someone who understands how analysis methods work. Dixi. Said the soldier without a commander who has never built a single thing even once, and believes that it's possible to eyeball a frigate orbiting or making a 90 degrees flight trajectory at ranges beyond 20km and expect to hit with railguns. I can even draft out a rough blueprint for such drones. I do not even need to draft out one from scratch even. Just get a contact in Pator Tech School to send me a blueprint of the modular drone chassis and work from there. 1. I have a commander. 2. I've built more ships than you ever flew. 3. You've aboslutely zero knowledge about my tactics in a fight. 4. And yes, this simple Caldari soldier knows way more than that Minmatar "engineer" about science and construction. So please be so kind, stop annoying me with your "pearls", and return back to welding your teapots. Except that Elmund has the right idea. Drones are more then capable of gathering samples and physically running any analysis needed and sending back the data without placing anyone in harms way. It would basically be an upgraded AIMED taking samples and running them through any type of test imaginable. Might take a few different types of drones to cover all the different types of tests that need to be done, but basically we'd just be giving the machines we would use to run the tests a means to gather and prep their own samples. It's not beyond the scope of our technology.
First, to Diana:
1. Agents are not your commander, neither are the free captains volunteering for the unenviable task of being the fleet commander. Agents are paymasters tasked to hire skilled hands to do work on a contract by contract basis. You simply volunteer to take up their job for renumeration. Free captain fleet commanders are just people you volunteer to subordinate yourself to for as long as there's a common goal.
2. Building ships by feeding BPOs or BPCs to a station-side fabrication systems computer and waiting for a completed product is completely different from actually building the thing with your own hands. When's the last time you took apart a missile launcher auto-loader to figure out how the various component works and when's the last time you built a functioning small-scale shield emitter with your own hands?
3. I admit to not knowing all your tactics in a ship fight. This has nothing to do with that one time you claimed to eyeball a target with your railguns.
4. Explain how sustained shield emitters differ from stock shield emitters and why they possess generally greater thermic and kinetic energy resistance but retained that glaringly massive EM hole.
Also, you are the one who picked this fight first. I can't not annoy you if you engaged me in conversation in the first place.
Next, to Claudia:
We do not have scientific drones outfitted for this task already? This can't be the first time someone mentioned such a drone.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
2262
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Posted - 2017.02.20 15:40:26 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote: to Claudia:
We do not have scientific drones outfitted for this task already? This can't be the first time someone mentioned such a drone. we have had the ability to remotely gather samples and study the material composition of objects since before we started settling other worlds. It's one of the ways we determined if they were safe to inhabit.
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1254
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Posted - 2017.02.20 16:59:22 -
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Efu site confirmed Kyonoke.
Little news otherwise on the contagion. |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
2953
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Posted - 2017.02.20 18:28:48 -
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At this point it'll be a novelty if a quarantine turns out to be anything else. |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
2038
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Posted - 2017.02.21 08:47:45 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote: to Claudia:
We do not have scientific drones outfitted for this task already? This can't be the first time someone mentioned such a drone. we have had the ability to remotely gather samples and study the material composition of objects since before we started settling other worlds. It's one of the ways we determined if they were safe to inhabit.
That lessens my concern that the cluster at large is throwing away human lives unnecessarily. Well, in matters outside of warfare and interstellar off-station activities at least.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3055
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Posted - 2017.02.22 09:49:50 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote: First, to Diana:
1. Agents are not your commander, neither are the free captains volunteering for the unenviable task of being the fleet commander. Agents are paymasters tasked to hire skilled hands to do work on a contract by contract basis. You simply volunteer to take up their job for renumeration. Free captain fleet commanders are just people you volunteer to subordinate yourself to for as long as there's a common goal.
Stop showing your incompetence. I meant neither of them.
Elmund Egivand wrote: 2. Building ships by feeding BPOs or BPCs to a station-side fabrication systems computer and waiting for a completed product is completely different from actually building the thing with your own hands. When's the last time you took apart a missile launcher auto-loader to figure out how the various component works and when's the last time you built a functioning small-scale shield emitter with your own hands?
I can disassemble and assemble any standard AWM issued weapon with closed eyes.
Elmund Egivand wrote: 3. I admit to not knowing all your tactics in a ship fight. This has nothing to do with that one time you claimed to eyeball a target with your railguns.
And I admit you still failed to comprehend the thing I said back then, starting huge drama and offtopic. As I see you are still bothered about it, let me relieve it with trying to explain with words that even someone like brutor could understand. It was said not about TARGETING with eyeballs. It was said for LOOKING where your railguns are pointed. Just LOOKING along the line they did shoot. And yes, people who fail to understand even such primitive concepts annoy me. I am not a teacher. I am a soldier. Go learn somewhere, or something.
Elmund Egivand wrote: 4. Explain the difference in the mechanics of sustained shield emitters and the mechanics of stock shield emitters, relate the difference to their electronics and why they possess generally greater thermic and kinetic energy resistance but retained that glaringly massive EM hole.
Also, you are the one who picked this fight first. I can't not annoy you if you engaged me in conversation in the first place.
Read my previous answer. That's not related to the subject. Go hire yourself a teacher, not me. If you can't comprehend even simple concepts, I am not going to waste my time on explaining you more advanced topics.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3079
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Posted - 2017.02.22 09:53:04 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:At this point it'll be a novelty if a quarantine turns out to be anything else. What do you imply, Ms. Jenneth?
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
239
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Posted - 2017.03.03 19:44:51 -
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Does anyone make any attempt to study the pathogen, or any other action besides quarantining?
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Talaris EveningStar
The Torchwood Institute Vengeful Seraph
59
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Posted - 2017.03.03 20:43:59 -
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Luna Hanaya wrote:Does anyone make any attempt to study the pathogen, or any other action besides quarantining?
While the Torchwood Institute's research facilities have been placed on standby and our resources offered to our freinds in the CEP, I truly hope the only people studying this pathogen is Empire response teams.
While many capsuleers such as Doctor Valate, and my Director of Operations may have medical and scientific research training, there are many among us who would be careless, abuse the pathogen for their own gain, or are just outright fedo-**** insane.
Reviewing all the information available about this particular outbreak, a single, glaring piece of information jumped out at me.
"The report apparently indicates that while the pathogen has been positively identified as the Kyonoke virus, it would appear that the current outbreak is of a newly identified strain which attacks its host in a different manner, and has been described by sources within Zainou's security division as "in most cases slower acting, but far more voracious and destructive" than the original strain located in Taisy."
This would seem to indicate to me that this version of the Kyonoke prion is an engineered or altered version. This would lend to the credence that this is a Sansha created situation. It would also account for the time lapse between their raid and it's deployment in addition to creating an antigen of some sort.
Admittedly, this is all still merely conjecture and speculation at this point. Regardless, Torchwood's assets and resources are standing by to launch any assistance required, be it scientific or security. As always, we will do whatever is required to safeguard the State without hesitation.
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
3031
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Posted - 2017.03.03 20:47:43 -
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It's pretty odd: it has these different characteristics, and yet circumstances suggest it came more or less straight from the Pit.
Is someone maybe messing with our perceptions by leaving bodies in awkward spots?
Also, ever since I first read that line it's been bugging me: it's slower-acting, yet more "voracious and destructive" than something that is 100% reliably lethal?
How exactly does that work? Is it that it takes longer to kill you so you end up spreading it further before you die of it or something? Or does it just leave a ... messier corpse? |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3079
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Posted - 2017.03.03 21:47:10 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:It's pretty odd: it has these different characteristics, and yet circumstances suggest it came more or less straight from the Pit.
Is someone maybe messing with our perceptions by leaving bodies in awkward spots?
Also, ever since I first read that line it's been bugging me: it's slower-acting, yet more "voracious and destructive" than something that is 100% reliably lethal?
How exactly does that work? Is it that it takes longer to kill you so you end up spreading it further before you die of it or something? Or does it just leave a ... messier corpse? Maybe it is 105% reliably lethal? Or not just kills you, but also flips tables in your quarters? Explodes corpses? Makes your pets lose hairs (fur, scales, tentacles)? Hijacks vehicles?...
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
2291
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Posted - 2017.03.03 22:20:14 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:
Also, ever since I first read that line it's been bugging me: it's slower-acting, yet more "voracious and destructive" than something that is 100% reliably lethal?
How exactly does that work?
a shot from an artillery piece is lethal, as is being ground zero of a nuke. While both would do the job of killing, the nuke will leave a lot more unnecessary damage. I suspect that the modified virus is much the same in that it is designed to cover a wider area via a longer incubation period.
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Talaris EveningStar
The Torchwood Institute Vengeful Seraph
59
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Posted - 2017.03.03 22:38:27 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:It's pretty odd: it has these different characteristics, and yet circumstances suggest it came more or less straight from the Pit.
Quite so Ms Jenneth. This particular fact is what leads me to believe it has been altered by an intelligent hand so to speak.
Aria Jenneth wrote:Is someone maybe messing with our perceptions by leaving bodies in awkward spots?
That is entirely possible. As much as I hate to admit it, we cannot rule out a large-scale cover-up or conspiracy regarding these events.
Aria Jenneth wrote: Also, ever since I first read that line it's been bugging me: it's slower-acting, yet more "voracious and destructive" than something that is 100% reliably lethal?
How exactly does that work? Is it that it takes longer to kill you so you end up spreading it further before you die of it or something? Or does it just leave a ... messier corpse?
Well as stated previously, a longer incubation time creates a higher infectivity index. How it could be more voracious and destructive is indeed questionable; perhaps it is merely poor wording and the above mentioned variable is what makes it so much more 'voracious'.
Regardless, it seems we are left with even more questions than answers at present. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3080
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Posted - 2017.03.04 09:06:25 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote: a shot from an artillery piece is lethal, as is being ground zero of a nuke. While both would do the job of killing, the nuke will leave a lot more unnecessary damage. I suspect that the modified virus is much the same in that it is designed to cover a wider area via a longer incubation period.
So, no vehicle hijacking and walking exploding zombies?.. Pity. I'd love to see that on streets of Caille.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Anshar Incorporated Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
69
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Posted - 2017.03.11 07:07:57 -
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All this excitement about Kyonoke puts me in such a dis-ease.
The fear is almost infectious.
But here is the blood still and all the perfumes of Aridia will not sweeten this little rose GÖÑ
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morion
Lighting Build
200
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Posted - 2017.03.11 07:12:27 -
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien wrote:All this excitement about Kyonoke puts me in such a dis-ease.
The fear is almost infectious.
No need to fear prophecy.
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morion
Lighting Build
200
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Posted - 2017.03.11 07:19:08 -
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Life it was written so you could be prepared. |
Mika Firestorm
Your Friendly Neighborhood Logistics
51
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Posted - 2017.03.24 09:42:49 -
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https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/kyonoke-inquest-center-formally-opens-full-federal-and-genolution-taskforces-arrive/
It says that
Quote:Elder Raish then elaborated on plans for the future of the Center, including the impending arrival of science teams from the Empire, State, Federation and Republic, commenting that "in the coming weeks, independent capsuleers from across the cluster will join teams selected by sovereign governments, in an effort to work toward a common resolution for the Kyonoke crisis."
Is anything known how to join these efforts?
State the nature of your medical emergency
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