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Blazing Trails
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.02.16 04:44:42 -
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I just finished the tutorial and started the agent missions to try and wrap my head around the basics and ran into issues.
Most of the missions require a weapon however you don't start with one and they are around 6 to 10 mil for the smallest. So I started mining to save up for one while tinkering with the exploration missions to kill the boredom and was insta-gibbed on mission 3. I was out launching probes right in front of the base and trying to find the data site and then after jumping to one that said 29% I was dead within 5 seconds and now those missions are a dead end.
1. Is there anyway to learn the very basics of the game while staying in PVE? |
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
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Posted - 2017.02.16 04:49:10 -
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press f12 and click the show career agents button, they should give you some stuff and teach you some things.
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Vortexo VonBrenner
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
2660
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Posted - 2017.02.16 05:57:13 -
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Basic weapons cost much less than 6-10 million.
Many people learned EvE in harsher circumstances. Stick with it, you got this.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.02.16 06:42:03 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:press f12 and click the show career agents button, they should give you some stuff and teach you some things. Yes, definitely do all 5 Career Agents. Make sure you fully understand and read the Agent briefing carefully before accepting each mission.
The Civilian modules gained from those missions are only good for those missions, nothing else. Train up the Core Fitting Skills asap. As soon as you can, upgrade your ship with Tech 1 modules and then work on getting Tech 2. Don't dual tank, pick one type of defensive tank (shield or armor) and fit other modules to help boost it's attributes.
You can basically 'Right Click' on everything in this game for various options, especially for information. Also google search is a great help. There's a lot of info to learn so take your time and don't get into a rush.
Good luck to you.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Bjorn Tyrson
EVE University Ivy League
200
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Posted - 2017.02.16 06:55:01 -
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So much of this just doesn't make sense.
If you went through the npe they should have given you a ship and some basic guns.
Even without that the free noobship (corvette) comes with a civilian gun. And is enough to at least get started on the career agents where they will just shower you in ships and basic equipment.
Also if you where on the scanning missions. There is no way to warp to a site unless it is scanned to 100%. Even if you could the anoms in the newbie system don't generally have anything threatening enough to even kill a corvette.
The only thing I can think of is that a gala anom spawned and you warped to that accidentally.... lesson to learn, pay attention where you are going. |
Do Little
Virgin Plc Evictus.
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Posted - 2017.02.16 09:14:13 -
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Your normal progression in Eve will be the NPE, followed by the career agents http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Career_Agents followed by the Sisters of Eve Epic Arc http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Sisters_of_EVE_Epic_Arc_-_The_Blood-Stained_Stars
If you loot the wrecks in the career missions and epic arc you will usually get a decent set of meta modules, weapons and ammo to fit the frigates they give you. You will also get enough ISK to buy and fit a cruiser and enough standing to run level 2 missions.
Later missions in the epic arc will require a cruiser or a friend - there are usually people in local willing to help.
Longer term, the user manual for Eve isn't written down anywhere - it lives between the ears of experienced players. The best way to learn Eve is join a new player friendly corporation and let them teach you.
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Lady Ayeipsia
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.02.16 12:40:42 -
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Also, look up your local trade hub and the main ones (Jita and Amarr). The price you may see could be because you are not in a major market area and thus there are high costs. |
Wolfgang Jannesen
The Evesploratory Society
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Posted - 2017.02.16 13:04:16 -
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Blazing Trails wrote:I just finished the tutorial and started the agent missions to try and wrap my head around the basics and ran into issues.
Most of the missions require a weapon however you don't start with one and they are around 6 to 10 mil for the smallest. So I started mining to save up for one while tinkering with the exploration missions to kill the boredom and was insta-gibbed on mission 3. I was out launching probes right in front of the base and trying to find the data site and then after jumping to one that said 29% I was dead within 5 seconds and now those missions are a dead end.
1. Is there anyway to learn the very basics of the game while staying in PVE?
You might want to spend a little more time in the market as well, 6 mil for a frigate weapon is nuts |
Dark Lord Trump
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2017.02.16 13:29:51 -
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Blazing Trails wrote:I just finished the tutorial and started the agent missions to try and wrap my head around the basics and ran into issues.
Most of the missions require a weapon however you don't start with one and they are around 6 to 10 mil for the smallest. So I started mining to save up for one while tinkering with the exploration missions to kill the boredom and was insta-gibbed on mission 3. I was out launching probes right in front of the base and trying to find the data site and then after jumping to one that said 29% I was dead within 5 seconds and now those missions are a dead end.
1. Is there anyway to learn the very basics of the game while staying in PVE? 1. Check the regional market to find reasonably priced equipment. In Jita, where prices are a lot harder to manipulate, the only weapons that cost that much are faction gun; T2 large guns aren't even that expensive. 2. You clearly warped to the wrong site by accident, probably a combat anomaly. It's not possible to warp to a site that's only been scanned to 29%, you need 100% to warp. How you died in 5 seconds is a mystery to me unless you're exaggerating, it probably takes that long for the NPC frigates to lock you, much less kill you. 3. The starter and career systems are considered PvE areas in the sense that attempting to abuse a rookie's lack of game knowledge is considered a violation of the ToS. Anywhere else, anyone can shoot at you if they accept the consequences.
There's no reason that the mission should become uncompletable because you lost your ship. All you need is a civilian data analyzer and a core probe launcher, check the market for those.
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Nicolai Serkanner
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
612
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Posted - 2017.02.16 14:28:12 -
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Blazing Trails wrote:I just finished the tutorial and started the agent missions to try and wrap my head around the basics and ran into issues.
Most of the missions require a weapon however you don't start with one and they are around 6 to 10 mil for the smallest. So I started mining to save up for one while tinkering with the exploration missions to kill the boredom and was insta-gibbed on mission 3. I was out launching probes right in front of the base and trying to find the data site and then after jumping to one that said 29% I was dead within 5 seconds and now those missions are a dead end.
1. Is there anyway to learn the very basics of the game while staying in PVE?
The best way to learn the game is by playing it and not by staying in a "safe" area. Finish the tutorials, then join a newbie friendly club like Pandemic Horde, Karmafleet, Brave Newbies Inc. EvE University et cetera. In this game there are no safe area's which means you need to learn as fast as possible how to protect yourself. |
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MadMuppet
A Better Corp Name
1195
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Posted - 2017.02.16 15:05:32 -
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A combat ship capable of any level 1 security missions shouldn't run more than a 1 to 1.5 million isk tops. If you are seeing higher prices it is because people have jacked up the market in the area. You will want to look in to the local trade hubs.
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Trade_Hubs
I did a few quick posts on the NPE and the career agents here in case you are still wondering about that stuff. http://fiveminuteeve.blogspot.com/2016/12/welcome.html
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Cade Windstalker
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Posted - 2017.02.16 15:13:31 -
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Blazing Trails wrote:I just finished the tutorial and started the agent missions to try and wrap my head around the basics and ran into issues.
Most of the missions require a weapon however you don't start with one and they are around 6 to 10 mil for the smallest. So I started mining to save up for one while tinkering with the exploration missions to kill the boredom and was insta-gibbed on mission 3. I was out launching probes right in front of the base and trying to find the data site and then after jumping to one that said 29% I was dead within 5 seconds and now those missions are a dead end.
1. Is there anyway to learn the very basics of the game while staying in PVE?
Um....
The tutorial absolutely starts you with a weapon, it's just not very good.
The cheapest small Projectile weapons (I'm assuming you're flying Minmatar ships here) aren't that expensive:
200mm Autocannon I
280mm Howitzer Artillery I
Fit them on something like a Rifter with a decent active tank, maybe some damage, mods, and a web for range control and making things easier to hit, and you should be pretty much good to go.
Also you can't jump to a site that is 29% scanned down, you need to have the site at 100% to warp to it. I'm not sure what you warped to but it wasn't your mission site. |
Agent 5B
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.02.16 15:55:28 -
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If you are in a capsule and you dock at a station where you have no ships you automatically get given a free rookie ship which has a civilian miner and a civilian turret weapon type dependent on your character faction. There is a very fast way to double your firepower: remove the modules from your rookie ship, undock - eject - dock again in your capsule you then have the mods on your new free ship plus the ones you took off the other one. So now your rookie ship can have 2 turrets or 2 miners as an option |
MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs Curatores Veritatis Alliance
354
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Posted - 2017.02.16 16:16:43 -
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I'm just going to jump in here to reiterate how great it is to see everyone be so supportive of new users. o7
Rattati Senpai noticed us! See you in the next FPS!
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Blazing Trails
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.02.16 19:29:53 -
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Thanks for the tip everyone, very much appreciated.
Agent 5B wrote:If you are in a capsule and you dock at a station where you have no ships you automatically get given a free rookie ship which has a civilian miner and a civilian turret weapon type dependent on your character faction. There is a very fast way to double your firepower: remove the modules from your rookie ship, undock - eject - dock again in your capsule you then have the mods on your new free ship plus the ones you took off the other one. So now your rookie ship can have 2 turrets or 2 miners as an option
This is what happened at the end of the tutorial for me, minus the civilian weapon. I did find my weapon eventually but it was at my home base 2 jumps away and not where the tutorial landed me.
Also this is how I jumped to a location at 29% scan, I found a place with the same name in this map view and clicked jump. screenchot |
Cade Windstalker
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Posted - 2017.02.16 19:38:58 -
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Blazing Trails wrote:This is what happened at the end of the tutorial for me, minus the civilian weapon. I did find my weapon eventually but it was at my home base 2 jumps away and not where the tutorial landed me. Also this is how I jumped to a location at 29% scan, I found a place with the same name in this map view and clicked jump. screenchotAlso this is the market price I can find. Screenshot.
Weapons first.
Those are Six Thousand ISK (roughly) not millions. Not sure if this is because you're from a place that uses different decimal conventions or what. If it is you might consider filing a ticket with CCP. It's unlikely anything will be done immediately but every little bit helps.
Scan window second.
Regarding the scan window. What you appear to have warped to there is an asteroid belt. Those red spheres indicate a site that you have only located with a single probe. This part of the UI is going to be updated soon for better clarity so hopefully that will help.
For future reference you can't warp to something until it's been scanned down to 100%.
The white/grey objects on the map are static system features, like planets and asteroid belts, not scan sites.
Also note that the market shows entries in your local region, so if you bought something and it's not showing up in your current station then check the jumps away the item is, or check your Personal Assets window (safe icon on the neocom) and see if it's not in another station. When buying you want to make sure you sort by distance or filter out results in other stations or systems before buying so you don't accidentally buy something far away or in Low Sec. |
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
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Posted - 2017.02.16 22:22:10 -
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This might seem lame but I kinda got my hook from reading Evelopedia and doing any faction named Hideaways and even Refuges (I remember Refuges nearly taking all my Thrasher's shield tank and were much harder to solo) Back then, Evelopedia was completely and totally wrong on what actually escalated to what so I had almost as much fun trying to figure out what was actually right and being told here on the forums that my RNG was 'just bad' but it got me in touch with some cool people willing to share how the game worked with me.
These sites appear at random in your probe scanner window and you can warp to them without any probing first. That's what I did and you can get the occasional faction rat (like a boss) that could spawn or an escalation to a 3, 4 or 5/10 depending on the rat type and site.
I couldn't solo those but I got to know a few people in those early days that gladly bought my bookmarks. Keeping myself busy reading Evelopedia, escalations and faction rats kept me hungry for more.
To each their own but I couldn't stand missions. I've only done what was necessary for an epic arc once and that's more than enough for me. I liked being able to cruise around and actually explore.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
58548
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Posted - 2017.02.17 03:15:58 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:This might seem lame but I kinda got my hook from reading Evelopedia and doing any faction named Hideaways and even Refuges (I remember Refuges nearly taking all my Thrasher's shield tank and were much harder to solo) Back then, Evelopedia was completely and totally wrong on what actually escalated to what so I had almost as much fun trying to figure out what was actually right and being told here on the forums that my RNG was 'just bad' but it got me in touch with some cool people willing to share how the game worked with me.
These sites appear at random in your probe scanner window and you can warp to them without any probing first. That's what I did and you can get the occasional faction rat (like a boss) that could spawn or an escalation to a 3, 4 or 5/10 depending on the rat type and site.
I couldn't solo those but I got to know a few people in those early days that gladly bought my bookmarks. Keeping myself busy reading Evelopedia, escalations and faction rats kept me hungry for more.
To each their own but I couldn't stand missions. I've only done what was necessary for an epic arc once and that's more than enough for me. I liked being able to cruise around and actually explore. Well, I did a lot of work on Evelopedia, especially the Angel exploration sites and Cosmos.
I still reference Evelopedia via The Wayback Machine and unless things have recently changed in-game, those guides are still pretty much up to date.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
1242
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Posted - 2017.02.17 04:12:34 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Lulu Lunette wrote:This might seem lame but I kinda got my hook from reading Evelopedia and doing any faction named Hideaways and even Refuges (I remember Refuges nearly taking all my Thrasher's shield tank and were much harder to solo) Back then, Evelopedia was completely and totally wrong on what actually escalated to what so I had almost as much fun trying to figure out what was actually right and being told here on the forums that my RNG was 'just bad' but it got me in touch with some cool people willing to share how the game worked with me.
These sites appear at random in your probe scanner window and you can warp to them without any probing first. That's what I did and you can get the occasional faction rat (like a boss) that could spawn or an escalation to a 3, 4 or 5/10 depending on the rat type and site.
I couldn't solo those but I got to know a few people in those early days that gladly bought my bookmarks. Keeping myself busy reading Evelopedia, escalations and faction rats kept me hungry for more.
To each their own but I couldn't stand missions. I've only done what was necessary for an epic arc once and that's more than enough for me. I liked being able to cruise around and actually explore. Well, I did a lot of work on Evelopedia, especially the Angel exploration sites and Cosmos. I still reference Evelopedia via The Wayback Machine and unless things have recently changed in-game, those guides are still pretty much up to date. DMC
Oh not a slam against your contributions or your work at all! Hopefully no misunderstandings your work is very valuable and I've used your COSMOS guide. I hate that we have to look in the dumpster behind Steve's warehouse for evelopedia now.
I was talking about this chart that was on the Cosmic Anomaly page.
Before, it erroneously pointed that Blood Hideaways escalated to 1/10's. I ran so many that I started to track stuff and keep statistics. Posted my findings to Missions & Complexes and got some mixed responses on it. Jeremiah Saken made quite an impression on me in those days because he was not only after the same knowledge that I was but was also amending that chart I screenshotted to show 'c' next to sites that actually escalated and fixed what it actually escalated to.
I could tell more if you're interested but this was what got me super hooked to Eve - I started to bring my journal to work incase I had one of those 'ah ha' moments or an idea that I'd want to try.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
58554
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Posted - 2017.02.17 04:46:01 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:Oh not a slam against your contributions or your work at all! Hopefully no misunderstandings your work is very valuable and I've used your COSMOS guide. I hate that we have to look in the dumpster behind Steve's warehouse for evelopedia now. I was talking about this chart that was on the Cosmic Anomaly page. Before, it erroneously pointed that Blood Hideaways escalated to 1/10's. I ran so many that I started to track stuff and keep statistics. Posted my findings to Missions & Complexes and got some mixed responses on it. Jeremiah Saken made quite an impression on me in those days because he was not only after the same knowledge that I was but was also amending that chart I screenshotted to show 'c' next to sites that actually escalated and fixed what it actually escalated to. I could tell more if you're interested but this was what got me super hooked to Eve - I started to bring my journal to work incase I had one of those 'ah ha' moments or an idea that I'd want to try. Yeah, I didn't mess around with that page very much, specifically the Escalations part listed on that page. I just made sure the order of difficulty on Anomalies was listed correctly. Most of the work I did on exploration sites was on each sites individual guide page.
From my experience, mainly doing Angel Hideaway sites, I never once had them escalate to a DED site. However I did get quite a few Commander NPC's spawning.
On average it was usually 1 out of every 10 sites which is why I posted in that thread you linked that Commander NPC's are also considered an escalation as well, especially since they have a random chance to drop Faction / Deadspace loot..
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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2Sonas1Cup
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Posted - 2017.02.17 04:48:33 -
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Heres a hint: Theres NO PVE in eve, everything is pvp or a means to pvp.
Want an area to pve?? Your prolly playing the wrong game fella **** kid. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
58554
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Posted - 2017.02.17 05:03:48 -
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2Sonas1Cup wrote:Heres a hint: Theres NO PVE in eve, everything is pvp or a means to pvp.
Want an area to pve?? Your prolly playing the wrong game fella **** kid. Sorry but I'm gonna disagree with you.
Escalations gained from exploration sites can not be scanned down by other players, as such those are strictly PvE sites. Running missions for Agents is also strictly PvE. Not to mention dealing with Research Agents to get Data Cores is also strictly PvE. The same goes for doing Planetary Interaction.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Hakawai
State War Academy Caldari State
55
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Posted - 2017.02.17 08:32:18 -
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@OP
You made a fairly common mistake (I'd guess it's more than 25%) in the way you started to play. Don't feel bad about it - the "cues" to show first time players a clear and acceptably safe path into the game are very easy to miss. And unfortunately, even if you found the help channels and asked questions there's a fair chance some "channel-pvper" lied to you.
Ignore the posts suggesting this was your fault. It's not correct, and that attitude comes with a highish probability their input can't be trusted.
Accept that you'll need to do a restart of sorts. It won't cost much time, and in hindsight you'll find the path you accidentally followed contained some useful lessons.
There are a set of polite and fairly consistent posts in this thread with similar and consistent setup advice. If you can understand the suggestions, do as they say.
OTOH, it's not always easy for a new player to understand good advice and make a plan (not just with EVE - this is true with being a beginner at almost anything worth doing). If you can't make a plan, ask again in this thread. |
Val Kaleth
Realm of Mischief
935
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Posted - 2017.02.17 11:24:07 -
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Check out the help channels in game, and join E-Uni. Lots of people to answer questions there.
Feel free to join me in game in the "Realm of Mischief" channel.
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CowQueen MMXII
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Posted - 2017.02.17 11:42:07 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:2Sonas1Cup wrote:Heres a hint: Theres NO PVE in eve, everything is pvp or a means to pvp.
Want an area to pve?? Your prolly playing the wrong game fella **** kid. Sorry but I'm gonna disagree with you. Escalations gained from exploration sites can not be scanned down by other players, as such those are strictly PvE sites. Running missions for Agents is also strictly PvE. Not to mention dealing with Research Agents to get Data Cores is also strictly PvE. The same goes for doing Planetary Interaction. DMC
You cannot undock without the possibility of PvP. Once you are aware of it, you are already actively particpating by taking precautions or preparations. If not, well... we all know how this might end. You cannot use the market without participating in PvP. You are competing against other players for best prices and the value of loot and loality points is finally determined by the outcome of this market PvP.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
58589
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Posted - 2017.02.17 13:47:33 -
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CowQueen MMXII wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:2Sonas1Cup wrote:Heres a hint: Theres NO PVE in eve, everything is pvp or a means to pvp.
Want an area to pve?? Your prolly playing the wrong game fella **** kid. Sorry but I'm gonna disagree with you. Escalations gained from exploration sites can not be scanned down by other players, as such those are strictly PvE sites. Running missions for Agents is also strictly PvE. Not to mention dealing with Research Agents to get Data Cores is also strictly PvE. The same goes for doing Planetary Interaction. DMC You cannot undock without the possibility of PvP. Once you are aware of it, you are already actively particpating by taking precautions or preparations. If not, well... we all know how this might end. You cannot use the market without participating in PvP. You are competing against other players for best prices and the value of loot and loality points is finally determined by the outcome of this market PvP. If you're in an empty system and undock then there's no PvP action there. Also I never said anything about the Market. Besides that, there's NPC buy and sell orders in the Market anyway so a player could feasibly just do PvE in the Market. Also Loyalty Points can be used to acquire items for personal use instead of selling them in the Market which would make that PvE content as well.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Keno Skir
1285
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Posted - 2017.02.17 14:11:42 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:CowQueen MMXII wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:2Sonas1Cup wrote:Heres a hint: Theres NO PVE in eve, everything is pvp or a means to pvp.
Want an area to pve?? Your prolly playing the wrong game fella **** kid. Sorry but I'm gonna disagree with you. Escalations gained from exploration sites can not be scanned down by other players, as such those are strictly PvE sites. Running missions for Agents is also strictly PvE. Not to mention dealing with Research Agents to get Data Cores is also strictly PvE. The same goes for doing Planetary Interaction. DMC You cannot undock without the possibility of PvP. Once you are aware of it, you are already actively particpating by taking precautions or preparations. If not, well... we all know how this might end. You cannot use the market without participating in PvP. You are competing against other players for best prices and the value of loot and loality points is finally determined by the outcome of this market PvP. If you're in an empty system and undock then there's no PvP action there. Also I never said anything about the Market. Besides that, there's NPC buy and sell orders in the Market anyway so a player could feasibly just do PvE in the Market. Also Loyalty Points can be used to acquire items for personal use instead of selling them in the Market which would make that PvE content as well. DMC
Nah i agree with Sonas (i know i feel dirty but it seems he finally gets it.. maybe..). In an un-scannable escalation you can still have your ship scanned down and are therefor involved in PvP from the get go, even in an empty system you are still involved with other players in a number of ways. I think the real answer to the OP's question is that he is already in the PvE area (it's just it's also the PvP area just like everywhere in EvE)
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Jenn aSide
shinigami miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
15172
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Posted - 2017.02.17 14:28:57 -
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Simply an observation that might benefit the OP (who seems a genuine new player).
When it comes to PVE (and if you choose PVE as your primary focus), you will notice a divide. Those PVErs who understand that EVE is primarily a PVP game will always be happier, and more well adjusted to deal with EVE and the people in it. Those PVE-centric players who quibble about the definition of "PVP" and deny the base-line fact that EVE is centered on PVP interactions always have a tougher time of it and end up extremely bitter towards the game and it's maker.
I'm biased because I am a part of the former group rather than the latter (our motto is "getting the loot is PVE, getting away with it is PVP"), but I honestly suggest you embrace the PVP nature of the game.
Not justembrace it, learn to USE it and ENJOY it, they is no bigger rush that killing an overseer npc, scooping enough lot for a PLEX in a rash of good luck and then watching the hapless, over-eager, arrogant PVPer who scanned you down warp in and get killed by the NPCs at the warp in beacon that you were smart enoguh to not aggro on your way in . |
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