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Chopper Rollins
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Posted - 2017.02.24 10:25:19 -
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"Sov holders get stuff for doing nothing" is almost as dumb as the "minerals i mine are free though" blurt of combustible ignorance i see from time to time. OP has no real point to make and seems to have mistaken his butthert for someone else's character flaws, common enough in any combat environment. The CCP Oveur quote was that piracy is meant to be harder in hisec, not impossible and by no means implied that EvE was designed unable to support such activity. In civilisation, resorting to force and violence is barbarism that proves corrosive to that civilisation. In a realm of spaec-gods unfettered by anything but overwhelming opposition, the appeal to morality is a non-sequitur.
Trust CCP, if wrecking fools hurt the game they'd be right onto it and have been in the past.
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Posted - 2017.02.25 23:05:09 -
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Oh, it's all a conspiracy. Makes perfect sense if you're a weak but hostile type. Also removes all agency and responsibility from you. Not a problem with the game though, which has been shown and explained repeatedly.
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Posted - 2017.02.25 23:46:16 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote: Fact is the devs know that the way the CSM vote is rigged ensures only the big blocs get elected yet its not changed to ensure all players are represented.
CSM is a scam.
None of this is true or relevant. Classic Ziona.
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Chopper Rollins
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Posted - 2017.02.27 06:05:00 -
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Or get out of hisec and the problem disappears. Nah, not gonna happen.
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Chopper Rollins
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Posted - 2017.02.27 14:37:52 -
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Salvos, you really sound like you want to make it harder for haulers to be ganked and you're just squirming around arguing about it. Ship and cargo scanners, backed by passive targeting arrays, are not hostile or aggressive any more than a yellowbox is: they may be the first step that enables aggro, but they aren't aggro. There are counters and actions to take to avoid trouble. Working as intended, your ideas are untenable.
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Chopper Rollins
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Posted - 2017.02.28 00:31:02 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote: It hurts and violates the target, and makes them susceptible to attack.
Hurts? No damage is incurred, no action is forced or prevented. Violates? It's hard to win any fight by violating anything, something has to get damaged. As far as susceptibility to attack goes, target lock makes them susceptible to attack, being visible on d-scan makes them susceptible to attack. The fact of the matter is that undocking makes a ship susceptible to attack, after that the fray has been entered and begging for non-combat status is not going to work.
Salvos Rhoska wrote: They should be able to defend themselves at the point of such an intrusion intended to inform a suicide gank on them
There are ways to avoid being scanned, but for a freighter it's a matter of not filling a max capacity fit hull with delicious goodies and autopiloting. There's been a waterfall of nerfs to hisec violence in the last few years, from crimewatch making fighting a baffling highspeed card-trick to actual changes to mechanics. Arguing to make cargo scanning a suspect offence isn't sustainable, in fact a less violent hisec buffs the afk farm-in-safety mode that i've seen people fester in for years.
nevyn Auscent wrote: Compare this to.combat ships where you get the option to glass cannon, balanced or brick tank all on the same hull. And you can speed tank, fit Ewart etc as well. The barges/exhumers get this choice between tank and yield. I have lost kills to ECM mids on lowsec miners. I have killed torp bombers and svipuls that didn't know a Procurer can have 70k ehp and horrifying drone bonuses. This is on ships that aren't meant to be combat but backed up by combat ships. Combat capable miners would also foster disengaged farming.
Seeing 8 Skiffs in a hisec belt is a straight tragedy, not because i'm some kid stuck in that lol i annoy joo phase, but because some damn fool is logging on to scratch up microscopic crumbs while not actually paying any attention to the game. He's doing nothing and preventing all interaction, depriving others of gameplay as well. A dead spot in the sky.
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Chopper Rollins
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Posted - 2017.02.28 03:29:49 -
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There's already a busy anti-ganking channel, much used by gankers. Anyone who uses it is already situationally aware enough to avoid most hisec shenanigans and just needs to vent. I think it's okay because it lets like-minded people glom together, but i can't bring myself to get too interested in actually jumping down into the cesspit of engaging with hisec pvpers. Just leave the rookie pond. All the pve wealth and significant pvp activity happens outside it.
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Chopper Rollins
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Posted - 2017.03.01 00:38:33 -
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Amojin wrote:...
EVE is about small-gangs, at least in high-sec. They even call it that on the web-pages I go to find fittings and strategies. Small GANGS.
Like ghetto thugs. They flat out say it! My wife grew up in a ghetto like this, and I, visiting that, even though my white community was just as poor, they thought I had something they didn't. Look. Look at what I'm wearing. I helped you move, last year, Omar. You're whining? I borrowed your truck, Nathan, to move my **** several years later when I went to college. Does it look like I'm rich? Stealing your women. Whatever.
None of you wanted her. We ran track in high school together, and fell in love, but don't act all butt-hurt, now. NONE of you wanted her. Nobody stole anything from you.
This just highlights the WRONG way and the RIGHT way. You say there is no RIGHT way to play EVE. By that, you admit that you think there is no WRONG way, either. Being a thug is always the WRONG way, now isn't it?
This, sir, is the point where your credibility flew out the window. Tenuously linking your scripted, ****-the-bed life drama with people's behaviour in a game is never, ever going to go well for you. Being a thug in eve is not only fun for some, it's also a great way to defend assets, deny access to an area or entertain for a short time. Within the confines of the game appeals to morality are the lamentation of the defeated. Within the confines of the game: meaning no rules or mechanics were broken or exploited. Cheese n rice.
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Chopper Rollins
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Posted - 2017.03.01 01:36:15 -
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If you want to discuss anything, or comment on anything, credibility is taken for granted until you say or do something that calls it into question. Violence would be great fun if it weren't for the fact that some people out there really want to hurt you. Ruthless, endless, pointless aggression works in EvE primarily because it's just a game, but also due to the liberating facts that there are no civilians, women or children to consider, contenders are immortal and only temporarily destructible, the environment spawns endlessly and cannot be spoiled or rendered uninhabitable. Thus the most childish interpretations of Nietzsche, Ayn Rand, the Marquis de Sade and Ragnar Redbeard all work in an unfettered indulgent melee of contention that would destroy the real world.
TLDR for livestock: ok, there's thugs in the game, that isn't a problem.
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Posted - 2017.03.01 03:26:00 -
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Amojin wrote:... Admitting that you are wrong, or that you have needs, is the absolute hardest thing a human can be asked to do. ...
Mate, if you think that's true i got some stories that will make your head fall off. Those stories, like your histrionics, aren't relevant to this thread or the game. Like i said, calling people names is just salt, begging for the game to be changed is just concentrated salt.
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Posted - 2017.03.01 03:52:58 -
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Pretty selfish there, insisting on a change that rules out other playing styles and fosters disengaged ones on the basis of morality is beyond flawed. Claiming that morality should be enforced to save the game from ragequits or whatever threat is dissembling. Logic isn't a blunt instrument, selfish logic hasn't made anything happen until it's drained all the life out of everything around it. Read the hundreds of similar threads, they all propose an interaction free farming simulator with a space themed background. Not gonna happen.
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Posted - 2017.03.01 04:13:15 -
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So the thread really is all about you. OK i'm out.
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