Webbed. Scammed.

Locking people out of highsec is not good for the game.

Again, it all depends on your earlier crimes that day and it depends on your sec status. Again, work for your crimes. If you works for your crimes, you can always come back to high sec again way easier and do more crimes. But don't expect easy life in high sec if you do keep doing crimes and breaking the law there over and over.

No it doesn't. How exactly does it nerf them for letting them get harsher punishment the more crimes they do?

Maybe you should explain in details on why it will be a nerf?

Making something harder for the same reward is a nerf. You have yet to prove that ganking needs (another) nerf.

No it doesn't. How exactly does it nerf them for letting them get harsher punishment the more crimes they do?

Maybe you should explain in details on why it will be a nerf?

instantly webbing and warp-disrupting while CONCORD (edit: Faction Police) moves in.

Thats a nerf.

Again, why is this required?

The fact that you are asking to ban outlaws from highsec because that is what your idea effectively does.

Again, why are you bringing in 'instantly webbing and warp-disrupting while CONCORD (edit: Faction Police) moves in.' when that has only to do with your sec status?.

Stop Trolling.... The OP clearly states that you manage your security status properly and you can do whatever you want in highsec. I know you dont like hearing that someone wants to take your free lunch away but an infinite isk grab is bad for the game.

Because it locks out people who gank and pvp in low sec.

Why do they need this nerf?

Then work to fix the sec status then so you don't lose that ability. It's not rocket scientist stuffs we are talking about here.

Literally anyone can shoot at a -10 in highsec plus they have faction navies and gate guns attack. Why do we need this further draconian nerf?

I left this thread twenty pages ago and you're still screaming that fighting in lowsec means you should not be allowed into highsec?

And you're still completely incapable of saying how that would be good for the game in any way, shape or form?

Wow.

Read the posts and maybe you will figure it out. Just coming into a thread and basing your question on nothing is meningless. Pick a previous post and quote what doesnt make sense to you and I will be glad to explain it.

Then work to fix the sec status then so you don't lose that ability. It's not rocket scientist stuffs we are talking about here.

You have yet to tell us why this nerf is needed.

Nobody has ever explained why it is a good idea to lock me out of highsec because I am pathologically incapable of not shooting the pod in lowsec.

Nobody has ever explained why it is a good idea to lock me out of highsec because I am pathologically incapable of not shooting the pod in lowsec.

The fact the you keep using the the word 'locked out' just makes it look like you cant read or refuse to acknowledge the OP and are just trolling. I know you dont want to have to fix a security status to stay out of what the OP describes as phase two aggression against criminals but if the game says you are a criminal for podding in lowsec, then you are a criminal. CCP always has the option of changing the hit lowsec pirates take for podding to go along with the proposed OP. CCP has nullsec for a reason, which does not damage your security status. Currently, if you want to be a pirate, do it in nullsec. If you want to be a lowsec pirate, be prepared to have to do some security status fixing if you want to enter highsec in anything more than a pod or shuttle that is instant warping. This is what the OP is proposing.

It doesn't. It just means that you have to work harder to be able to do your ganks. Working harder for continuing doing your crimes is not a nerf, but a balance.

You can still do 5-6 ganks a day like you probably would do in a day anyways with this. The only difference is that you have to work harder the more you do ganks / crimes.

Working harder for doing crimes against the law abiding players is not a nerf, but logic and balance towards the players who are ganked that now can feel better for seeing that the criminals gets harder and harder consequences for their actions.

EDIT. I'm on Discord in one channel there where this was said:

XXXXXXXXXX - Today at 5:04 PM
Guess your right. Ganking should be harder. Now what do these guys have to do to repair the new standings to be able to gank the next day? Or was this already said and I just need to scroll back up?

[MC] NightmareX - Today at 5:05 PM
Well, their criminal status will always be reset after each downtime. So if your sec status is still fine after that, then you will be back to normal stats like everyone is before committing any crimes .

It will be day based.

It doesn't matter if you do 5-6 ganks (ofc if you are good enough to do those last 2 ganks before the police will bust you as they will be harder to avoid the more you have ganked) 2 hours before downtime or if you do them spread out over the day. The criminal status will always be reset at downtime independent of how you have done the crimes through the days.

And i do think that this makes sense and it's fair both towards the criminals being treated like criminals and towards those who gets ganked that now knows that the gankers will get harsher consequences the more crimes they do.

And at no point has anyone even attempted to explain WHY that would be a good thing. Are you intending to, at any point, or are you just going to continue to talk like a politician?

Why is this?

Please explain how instantly webbing and scramming me on jumping in to highsec does not lock me out of highsec.

So if you make it harder, I can do less ganks, and since apparently ganking is an infinite faucet of ISK for gankers, I make less money. If CCP halved the amount of minerals in highsec ore, that would mean miners make less. That's a nerf. If freighters suddenly had their cargoholds halved, they'd make less money moving things since they can't fit as much. That's also a nerf. So why, pray tell, is allowing me less ganks not a nerf but a "balance?"

Stop Trolling.... The OP clearly states that you manage your security status properly and you can do whatever you want in highsec. I know you dont like hearing that someone wants to take your free lunch away but an infinite isk grab is bad for the game.

The entire point of being an outlaw is that you don't follow the laws. In turn, you forfeit CONCORD protection and are pursued by the faction police. Being effectively locked out by gates that instantly scram and web you while the faction police warps in to finish you off is stupid. You want justice, go get it yourself. Find some ganker staging system, probe down their instaundock, and drop some instalockers or smartbombing battleships there and get some justice against the "invincible" gankers.

Ganking isn't free ISK either. It merely capitalizes on the extreme risk that someone takes when they fit triple cargo expanders and fills their hold with PLEX while autopiloting through Uedama. If everyone got a clue and stopped doing dumb things with freighters, gankers would probably find themselves harder up for cash.

Im just playing by the mechanics of EVE ... Highsec means keep the damn criminals from taking over. Thats why they live in lowsec as criminals. You shouldnt just get to stroll up into highsec whenever you need something (Especially with player owned citadels now) because its convinent for your agenda. If you happen to have a reason for frequently needing to visit highsec, then the solution is simle and stated in the OP. Say your sorry (tags and mission running) so that you stay out of phase two aggression and then you can come into highsec all day long exactly similar to how it works now.

I know you dont like that the OP proposes that you cant tote that -10.0 status in lowsec and then bring it into highsec but thats what the OP proposes.

It isn't just podding though. you take a sec status hit just for shooting a guy in lowsec.

Go fight over a lowsec moon and you could very easily find yourself unable to enter highsec, possibly even trapped in one of those silly little lowsec pockets (Kubinen in The Citadel, or Sarline in solitude, for example. Both in three system lowsec pockets only accessible through highsec)

And nowhere have you said WHY this is good. Nor have you explained why there should be a pve requirement to get your sec status up high enough to actually be able to move around after you go pvp in a manner that you, personally, disapprove of.

Like I said... I sure CCP would address these issues and the hits lowsec pilots take to their security status if implementing a version of this OP. The issue is not with lowsec pirates, but out of control ganking teams in Jita who get to avoid any effort in repairing their criminal actions. Given that, lowsec pirates are still criminal so Im sure that something like this would still affect you to a certain extent. If you want to be a criminal... you just need to own it and be a badass.

Highsec means keep the damn criminals from taking over. Thats why they live in lowsec as criminals.