Veine Miromme
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.10 02:22:55 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Veine Miromme wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:Also, accept that after all these years of EvE, mining yield is a very well understood topic Therefore you know very well why mining Kernite yields more ISK per hour than mining Veldspar. It is not so much a matter of unit per m3 than a matter of the value of the Kernite Ore on the player market compared to the value of the Veldspar Ore per hours. No, the player market doesn't really care about ore. Rather, it cares about the minerals obtainable from ore. All ore batch size is 100 units. Ore however varies in volume (m3). If you divide the market price of the minerals from one perfectly refined batch by the volume of the ore in that batch, you get the market price per m3. [Not including surcharges for reprocessing, hauling, and orders.] If you look at the Cerlestes page I linked above, and sort by price per m3 as I instructed, it clearly shows Veldspar at 14th place, and Kernite at 9th place. The reason being that Mexallon is in short supply, causing the market price of Mexallon to be high, and hence the value of Kernite rises as it is rich in Mexallon. Tritanium however has a market surplus, so the price of Veldspar is much lower. Hence it makes more sense to harvest Kernite than Veldspar, because the minerals in equal volumes of Kernite is worth more than Veldspar. Yes, I agree, however, due to differences in the raw Ore volumes per units, and the ship miners (mining) modules functioning on a volume per time frame system (or ratio), the value of the Ore per units, are only reflected in the value of the minerals in as long as those minerals can be obtained by the pilot mining the Ore.
I have tested this myself, and even made test containers with cycles content payout, and did the hauling , refining (yes, without reprocessing so far, and orders (yes, all direct orders back then, but all at the same price).
So, I can add the numbers to convey a more accurate figure, but I am sure you already know this.
What it comes down to is the actual ISK per hour that the actual pilot is able to get, even if an Alpha pilot. I have never done it yet, but I know how I could mine my way to be an Omega pilot with no external support.
Anyhow.
The point is that the Kernite value listed only includes the value for the stacks of 100, which btw helps the refiners who pay for the Ore to decide on the price that best suits the trades to prosper no doubt.
It goes both ways, the better the deal the miner gets on his Ore, the more he can mine, and the better the deal the refiner can offer since he can get a higher volume for the said mineral he will be able to extract for the same Ore offered.
Both players demand money, both players offer services, one in the form of Ore for sale on the market, or to a private customer, the other in the form of money, that , being in-game ISK, and the money he demands comes from the value of the minerals he is able to refine from the Ore, due to his higher Ore refining skills.
Again, the reason the Kernite is worth more comparatively is not only because of the change in the price per units offered, or the price per volume, but rather to the fact that the Kernite volume is also larger than the volume of Veldspar per unit. What this means is that, even though the miners mine the same volume per same amount of time, and yes, even if not using specialised strip miners, the volume per units of the Kernite being greater than the volume per units of the Veldspar (the lowest at 0.1, btw) the value of the amounts of units mined in total is greater than the amounts listed on the list , since they do not include the change in those variables.
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