Plz...

Pot meet kettle.

I've spent enough time in the AG channels to know I'm right

None of the core factors I mention can 'become a problem', they are the basis of the game. If you don't like the basis of a game you don't like the game.

Just like in soccer, the basis of the game is 'don't use your hands' (with a few exceptions like being the goalie). Thinking that playing a ball game without using your hands is stupid as hell is a totally ok opinion to hold....just not while playing soccer.

Because those 'hippies' are basically just THE BORG. EVERYTHING must conform to their needs and worldview, nothing must be allowed to survive outside of it.

If there was a room with 100 tables in it, and 99 of those tables had a game of Checkers on them and only one table had a Chess board on it, the kinds of people who complain about EVE would be in that room begging the game masters to make that last table another game of Checkers.

It's just in their nature. Their screwed up, hippie, drum circle'n, PvP hatin, "think of the damn children" SJW natures lol.

How many more players must we lose to bullying

People who you disagree with are flawed and can be lumped into a general category? Nah.

What never gets mentioned is that some people can't PVP.
I mean physically can't, they freeze in any combat situation and no amount of practice, training or experience does much to change that. I think the stats from Vietnam were that 3 out of ten did not fire their weapons during contact.

In time, like anything else, EVE will fall. It will become too sparsely populated to generate profitability for CCP and they will "sadly and with heavy hearts" shut down EVE servers due to lack of income and ability to maintain the servers. Thats when you will start to see and hear all of the "bully's" and killboard hounds crying their eyes out declaring that they've wasted all these years and money on this game and that it cant possibly just be ended and that a petition sould be started to raise money and awareness in hopes some other company will absorb it and keep it running. ALL because the exact thing you've brought up in this post has come to pass. New players have been run off and there are no more left in the world to "try it out". 14 years is a long ass time for an MMO to be successful. If you asked my opinion, I would tell you to start thinking about this because if you wannabe hard asses dont start considering some of these "new player" ideas on how to get them in and KEEP them in.. you will find yourself on Reddit and facebook bitching and crying about how EVE is gone and you cant believe you cant fly your Avatar anymore.


Put this to real thought because I have seen more than my fair share of newbie just say **** it and quit during the first 3 months for THIS exact reason... institute some sort of invulnerability period for the newbie. a scaling war dec system based on corp size or something because its affecting login frequency for sure.

The Ironic thing is that EVE was a more popular game when it was measurably harsher (like when gankers got insurance payouts for ganking

Gankers got insurance payout?
How is that harsh? :D

It wasn't' the only thing that was harsh.

Gankers got insurance payout! FREE MONEY!
How is that harsher? :D

Jenn, please.

There should be severe consequences for attacking and destroying non-war targets in high sec.

Instant drop to -10 security status, and a 2-3 second warp delay for all ships while at -10. Old school Ultima online had severe penalties to stats for "going red". Eve should as well.

The warp speed delay would only be applied in high sec.

LOL
anything killed by CONCORD has no insurance payout..
Please learn game mechanics before making assumptions

She was talking about before.

Read, bro.

1- I'm not your "bro"
2- I was editing
3- Miner, calm down

1) :(
2) You where editing cos you fked up.
3) Im not a miner. Im legit CODE Special Agent (see my sig)

Yeah right
And I'm a goon...

In time, like anything else, EVE will fall. It will become too sparsely populated to generate profitability for CCP and they will "sadly and with heavy hearts" shut down EVE servers due to lack of income and ability to maintain the servers. ...............

What is really wrong with all those who come to EVE is that they come with no other experience except that of: WoW; Ark; Space Engineers; Star Trek; Star Wars; My Little Pony; & Pokemon. Youngsters who have become self-entitled dolists who know nothing about the real world because they aren't taught anything - the ones who never climbed trees or took childhood risks.

What EVE really needs is a marketing effort that expresses the realism within a game environment - and poses the big question:

'Are you good enough to rise to the challenge of playing EVE Online?'

forum posting:
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I'm sorry, but you re going to need to purchase a forum shitposting permit. and I must sadly also levy a permit avoidance fine against you. please transfer 50m isk at your earliest convenience.

EVE needs real penalties to suicide ganking in high sec. Not this slap on the wrist, negligible risk BS.

Its become far to commonplace and a preferred pvp activity vs roaming low/null and facing opponents who will actually shoot back.

This is a large part of what makes EVE such a joke of a game. Suicide gankers risk next to nothing for potentially tremendous rewards and the costs are so negligible that its commonly used as a griefing tool.