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Chris Wagi
Voices of War - Research and Production Evictus.
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Posted - 2017.04.04 02:36:22 -
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I want back the ingame Browser!!!
its a mess to ALT-Tab around the screen!!! |
Cade Windstalker
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Posted - 2017.04.04 02:38:24 -
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Know what else is a mess? Getting your account/computer/tax information back because someone stuffed an Eve website full of malicious code and the Eve browser hasn't had a meaningful security patch in two years. |
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.04.04 02:51:59 -
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- Eve online
- Remove Stuff - Nurf the game - Sell SP/ISK to make profit - FTP (for getting more kills to boost up marketing and so old fappers have something to do in this game like gate camping everywhere) - Make it "Casual" all for the greater good
Nope CCP will continue this patch. And fingers cross the are not staying at this rampage patch! |
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2017.04.04 04:12:43 -
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You COULD get a second monitor, window eve, and not even have to bother alt tabbing.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.04.04 04:38:50 -
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I agree with the OP. And for those who say the IGB allowed your computer to be susceptible to malicious code, I say get a better security program for your computer.
I use to play Eve in full windowed mode and due to CCP removing the IGB, I now have to play the game in windowed mode so I can access my out of game Internet Browser. Don't particularly like having my computer work harder by having my browser open to access Eve related info needed to play this game.
When the IGB was active in-game, I used it extensively to reference Eve-Survival and Evelopedia for information. All links to Evelopedia opened in the IGB so any danger of contracting malicious code was negligible. Along with removing the IGB, Evelopedia was another bad removal decision by CCP.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Teckos Pech
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.04 05:43:40 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:You COULD get a second monitor, window eve, and not even have to bother alt tabbing.
Or 3 or even 4...is 5 too many?
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
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Kia Heaven
We Are Clowns
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Posted - 2017.04.04 06:25:50 -
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Well, you can actually add EvE as a non-Steam game and use the Steam overlay which includes a fully functional browser. |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
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Posted - 2017.04.04 06:57:05 -
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I have one monitor (1920x1080) and I am playing EVE in fixed window. Alt tabing works smoother and I can see EVE window in the background, while I have firefox window resized to see local, local chat, ship health bars and modules and drones window and bit of overview. I have DevEdition theme enabler installed in the firefox, it gives it look slightly similar to default EVE color theme.
Maybe you could try that too? I like that for myself.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
Osprey =ƒÜÇ
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Chewytowel Haklar
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2017.04.04 07:25:52 -
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But they banned Casino's, so no reason to have IGB anymore |
Elmund Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.04.04 07:30:38 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:You COULD get a second monitor, window eve, and not even have to bother alt tabbing.
Or use Overwolf Overlay?
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Alexander Bor
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.04 10:16:38 -
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Chris Wagi wrote:I want back the ingame Browser!!!
its a mess to ALT-Tab around the screen!!!
It is not safe. The wise decision of CCP to remove it. |
Aves Asio
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Posted - 2017.04.04 11:50:29 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:You COULD get a second monitor, window eve, and not even have to bother alt tabbing.
Would you be so kind to buy me a second monitor? |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.04.04 11:53:30 -
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Alexander Bor wrote:Chris Wagi wrote:I want back the ingame Browser!!!
its a mess to ALT-Tab around the screen!!! It is not safe. The wise decision of CCP to remove it. Seems a lot of people keep saying that and in my 8+ years of playing this game I've never heard of anyone contracting a virus or having a security breach on their computers due to the IGB.
I think CCP removed it for the same reason they removed the in-game jukebox and for the same reason they removed the Evelopedia and for the same reason they're removing these forums.
It's all about downsizing their server's expenditures.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
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Posted - 2017.04.04 12:22:32 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:And for those who say the IGB allowed your computer to be susceptible to malicious code, I say get a better security program for your computer. As someone that actually does understand something about ITSec, your advice is utter bullshit at best and it doesn't fix anything about the underlying problem.
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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Cade Windstalker
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Posted - 2017.04.04 12:28:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Seems a lot of people keep saying that and in my 8+ years of playing this game I've never heard of anyone contracting a virus or having a security breach on their computers due to the IGB.
I think CCP removed it for the same reason they removed the in-game jukebox and for the same reason they removed the Evelopedia and for the same reason they're removing these forums.
It's all about downsizing their server's expenditures.
DMC
I have, there used to be a certain class of Jita spammer (probably still is for all I know) that would spam links to malicious websites. There were never very many of them and they tended to get perma-banned pretty quickly, but they definitely existed.
Stuff like the IGB, Jukebox, and Evelopedia were removed not because of serve expense but because of the cost in dev time. All of these things suck fairly large amounts of dev time to keep curated and working relative to their benefit to the community. The Jukebox and IGB are both client side, they cost zero server time. The Evelopedia doesn't cost nearly as much in server resources as you might think, being a static website, it was just a mess for CCP to keep up to date and curated.
Oh and as for the idea that you can just "get a better security program" just no, that's not how any of this works. The whole point of a vulnerability is that it gets someone around your firewall and your anti-virus, and if the attacker is remotely clever about it they can then disable or hobble them so whatever they've done won't be detected. Assuming they've even done something, rather than just running some malicious code in the IGB without actually installing anything permanent. It can just sit there and scrape passwords or whatever and nothing will show up on your next virus scan.
The idea that something as old and held together with duct tape as the IGB could have its security concerns removed just by running AV software is ridiculous. |
Daemun Khanid
dirt 'n' glitter Siege Green.
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Posted - 2017.04.04 12:45:01 -
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There are "always on top" utilities that allow you to keep your browser window open just like if you were using IGB. Just set it up and size it where you want it. While I do hate to see game elements removed for streamlining (looking at you advanced audio settings) the IGB was destined for the graveyard. A game developer should be spending time on gameplay not constantly updating compatability and security on a web browser.
Daemun of Khanid
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.04 13:47:37 -
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Aves Asio wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:You COULD get a second monitor, window eve, and not even have to bother alt tabbing. Would you be so kind to buy me a second monitor?
#NoPoors |
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
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Posted - 2017.04.04 15:20:41 -
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It's dead, Jim.
Eve requires a second monitor anyway
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grin man
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.04.04 15:28:13 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:You COULD get a second monitor, window eve, and not even have to bother alt tabbing.
Oh so i will be able to right click on dotlan and set destination on this second monitor? |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
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Posted - 2017.04.04 15:49:15 -
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there whole reason for removing IGB wasn't because of security at all. the sole comment given for its removal is
"it's too much work to keep it updated"
over the years CCP has proved a to shun as much work as they can because something's too much or programming is hard
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
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Posted - 2017.04.04 15:53:56 -
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grin man wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:You COULD get a second monitor, window eve, and not even have to bother alt tabbing. Oh so i will be able to right click on dotlan and set destination on this second monitor?
I'll test DOTLAN tonight, but you already can on Pathfinder
@lunettelulu7
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Teros Hakomairos
science and trade institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.04.04 16:16:34 -
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Chris Wagi wrote:I want back the ingame Browser!!!
its a mess to ALT-Tab around the screen!!!
NO...
It's CCP's property........
no wishes,no demands......
you can always leave,there is the door..... |
Zircon Dasher
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Posted - 2017.04.04 17:04:06 -
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I want a mankini made of Monarch butterflies.
Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2017.04.04 17:04:13 -
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No, it was removed for good reason. Would you use a crippled browser that was out of date when it was implemented, and has rarely if ever been patched in the years since, in a software product that you're trying to sell?
Use a second monitor or any of the numerous free apps/overlays that allow you to have an always on top browser.
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
New Player FAQ
Feyd's Survival Pack
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Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.04.04 17:10:14 -
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Absolutely a second monitor.
I got a 5:4, 19 inch for free from work. Does its job.
PYFA, Dotlan, Tripwire sooooo easy.
P.S. 'Win' + 'Shift', toggle left and right arrow
If you can't beat them, join them.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2017.04.04 17:20:55 -
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Trasch Taranogas wrote:Absolutely a second monitor.
I got a 5:4, 19 inch for free from work. Does its job.
PYFA, Dotlan, Tripwire sooooo easy.
P.S. 'Win' + 'Shift', toggle left and right arrow I just plug into the TV, and use my normal monitor as the secondary. Eve on a big screen TV is a sight to behold.
BTW are you sure it's not "win" + "tab"?
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
New Player FAQ
Feyd's Survival Pack
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Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.04.04 17:24:29 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
BTW are you sure it's not "win" + "tab"?
Using Nordic keyboard. Flips browser between monitors.
If you can't beat them, join them.
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Cade Windstalker
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Posted - 2017.04.04 20:56:13 -
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Agondray wrote:there whole reason for removing IGB wasn't because of security at all. the sole comment given for its removal is
"it's too much work to keep it updated"
over the years CCP has proved a to shun as much work as they can because something's too much or programming is hard
What, exactly, did you think they were having to keep it updated with?
Security was specifically discussed as a main concern, you can go back and dig up the removal thread if you want to read about it, a bunch of devs were active in that thread. There were also concerns over it not being able to even display a lot of newer web pages, but the security issues it presented were the primary concern.
After all, CCP are an internet spaceships company, not a web browser company.
Also please learn to read "too much work" not as "lazy" but as "takes too much time away from other things" because that's what that means in dev land. |
Nicolai Serkanner
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2017.04.04 23:21:17 -
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Chris Wagi wrote:I want back the ingame Browser!!!
its a mess to ALT-Tab around the screen!!!
Get a second screen and stop being poor. |
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
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Posted - 2017.04.04 23:30:01 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:You COULD get a second monitor, window eve, and not even have to bother alt tabbing.
I've played for five years on a laptop while sitting on my couch. Now I need to buy multiple monitors to play properly, just because CCP didn't want to patch the in game browser? Last I checked it's hard to set up multiple monitors in front of me on a couch. |
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