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Kenneth Feld
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Posted - 2017.04.11 15:13:40 -
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What about all the Minnie stations upgraded for office slots, which was almost a required upgrade when you built supers in a pos with BPO's in station. Do you have an idea what rigs bonus that will translate into?
Secondly, now that outposts are almost completely gone: OUTPOST CONSTRUCTION SKILL rank 16 and it is useless.... |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2017.04.11 15:29:00 -
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xttz wrote:What is happening with the industry index bonuses provided by outposts?
There was talk of an iHUB upgrade to reduce by 30%, but was also sort of led to believe that would be an admin hub thing, not a current iHub think, so not sure what happens between outpost removal and admin hub release. |
Kenneth Feld
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Posted - 2017.04.11 15:40:26 -
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xttz wrote:What is happening with the industry index bonuses provided by outposts?
edit: are jumpclones moved into the new structures too?
Medclones?
Offices? Corp ****?
What about deliveries? What about stuff in corp umm, what is the place where corp assets go when you unrent a corp office? Lockdown?
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Kenneth Feld
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Posted - 2017.04.12 18:05:25 -
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Andraea Sarstae wrote:As for POSes, the one use that has not been replaced is that of a cheap base for a short trip somewhere. A young corp or newbros can buy themselves a small tower, go into a WH and set up shop for an afternoon, a few days or a week, and then take it with them when they leave. You can't do that with a structure that takes 24 hours to anchor, and 7 days to unanchor.
So, why not just leave them in game as portable bases, with corporate hangars, and simple remove all the industry functionality from them? Or come up with a small citadel class that anchors and unanchors in under an hour?
I feel like that's the most glaring hole in the Starbase->Citadel design.
Also, the 7 day unanchor timer with the fact that expensive rigs get destroyed really is one of the driving forces behind citadel spam. Since it costs nothing to just leave them there, but it does cost time and ISK to take one down, people just leave them behind.
So, yeah, that needs to be addressed as well.
Mobile depot is the word you are looking for |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2017.04.13 21:42:13 -
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Cherri Minoa wrote:The obvious answer to outposts was the one first discussed: just remove all functionality except docking and leave them as historic structures like a disused church or castle. Nobody needed to stir up a storm to promote citadels. In Providence and Dital you can't spit without hitting a dozen citadels. We've embraced them already.
The shame is that CCP say they desperately want to attract new players, but then repeatedly introduce changes that benefit nobody but the same old mega alliances. Providence is almost unique in providing the "null sec experience" to new players. I have over 300 neutral corps and alliances on my access lists and intel channel, and probably the same number of unlisted entities operating in our space. Why break something that is working so well?
This proposal has been described as "The Death of Provi." Well, maybe. I've lived in Provi so long, and seen our death announced so many times, I take it with a pinch of salt. Provi has a habit of not turning up to its own funeral. But yes, it is a threat. A threat to everyone, red grey and blue, who finds so much fun in our systems.
The bigger tragedy is that this may signal "The Death of the Sandbox." The unique selling point of EVE is that content is created by the players, for the players. That's what we've done in Providence. We don't cry when other players drive a bulldozer over us., we accept that kicking the fertiliser out of Provi is part of the game. What we object to is when CCP drive a bulldozer over us and turn the game into yet another theme park.
At least when you log on to World of Warcraft you know it's a theme park. Now in EVE, you spend years building something in what you thought was a sandbox, and then you find you are just pawns - expendable characters - in a story being written by CCP.
I can only assume you have been asleep since early 2014 when the first dev blog came out for new structures and the ENTIRE theme was EVERYTHING should be destructible. You have waited 3 years to finally say you don't like it?
CCP have been extremely forthcoming in their plans in that regard.
As far as your "Ax grinder" statement, remember the current team 5-0 is NOT the team that started structures, not many currently on 5-0 were on the previous team at citadel expansion. They haven't made up anything new just to **** over Provi, they have pretty much followed the vision of the previous team and carried out their plan.
rest assured, you can put away your tin foil for the time being. Don't mind the black helicopters flying around your house either.... |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2017.04.14 03:03:25 -
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Valkorsia wrote:Kenneth Feld wrote:
CCP have been extremely forthcoming in their plans ....
Not sure what planet you've been on since 2014, but CCP has never detailed specifics until a week ago - which, of course, is why we're here giving feedback in a feedback thread. Sgt Ocker wrote:As for waiting 3 years to speak up.. Many have been speaking up asking questions for that time, unfortunately (as CCP do) no information was available until they decided it was time. That time was a week ago and it is only now we see just how badly this could go for many groups Sgt Ocker is correct.
How the hell can you possibly think that anything they did or anything they gave you wouldn't be destructable?
Even if they reimbursed you PI and stuff for the outpost. The outpost was going away and no matter what you replaced it with, it would be destructible.
I don't get how you figured out only last week, no matter what, **** will be in fact, destructable.
Were you hoping to get something "Grandfathered" so that it would last for all eternity? |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2017.04.14 05:20:27 -
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So, I am confused......
What is left that isn't destructible?
Did you think after 3 years of telling you they want everything to be destructable, they would say "April Fool's" you can keep your outposts? |
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