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Cute EvEGirl	Posted - 2007.05.08 15:33:00 - [1] Hey PvPers, I got it! Roger!! Loud and Clear!! This is a PvP game. You win. No debate on my part. The reason I am opening a new thread on this same old topic is that most of you whiners are PvPers. So here is my fuel to the fire and/or support. I don't give a hooot about you killing another ship, becuase all you do is whine about it anyway. The game mechanic foster you to cheat, lie, steal and do bad stuff. I don't expect anyone in EvE online to have honor and respect-- It is a game... If the designers allowed you to do... then do it. Go be the bad azz as you are. I want to hear you roar. GRRRRG!! Sadly, it is not my cup of tea.... I will just smiply mine, manufacture, chat and/or just hang out like a good carebear. I am paying my $$ to be lost in space--What about you? Welcome to EvE Online. V/r Cute "Hips Don't Lie"
hundurinn Energy.	Posted - 2007.05.08 15:35:00 - [2] Can I have your stuff? Energy Recruitment Thread
Xtreem Gallente Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2007.05.08 15:35:00 - [3] this always makes me smile you mine? you mine ore you refine ore you sell minerals someone buys minerals someone makes them into a ship pvp'er / missioner / miner buys ships pvp'er / missioner / miner loses ship in relivant feild. rinse and repeast you NEED loss and pvp in this game for your profession to be worth any money dont forget!! oh and simply reponse.. dumb topic!
JourneymanDave devastation mining inc Hell Hounds	Posted - 2007.05.08 15:39:00 - [4] Originally by: Cute EvEGirl Hey PvPers, I got it! Roger!! Loud and Clear!! This is a PvP game. You win. No debate on my part. The reason I am opening a new thread on this same old topic is that most of you whiners are PvPers. So here is my fuel to the fire and/or support. I don't give a hooot about you killing another ship, becuase all you do is whine about it anyway. The game mechanic foster you to cheat, lie, steal and do bad stuff. I don't expect anyone in EvE online to have honor and respect-- It is a game... If the designers allowed you to do... then do it. Go be the bad azz as you are. I want to hear you roar. GRRRRG!! Sadly, it is not my cup of tea.... I will just smiply mine, manufacture, chat and/or just hang out like a good carebear. I am paying my $$ to be lost in space--What about you? Welcome to EvE Online. V/r Cute "Hips Don't Lie" Uhhh... what?
Cute EvEGirl	Posted - 2007.05.08 15:40:00 - [5] hundurinn-- I swear you are a rock. My english may not be the best... but where does it say, that I am leaving.. another PvP rock. I love this game.
Miss Anthropy School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.05.08 15:40:00 - [6] Originally by: Xtreem oh and simply reponse.. dumb topic! Another simple response - spell checker is your friend! --------- My views, whether true, false or offensive, represent the views of my corporation and fellow corp members.
Aille Pluthrak Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.08 15:42:00 - [7] Originally by: Cute EvEGirl I am paying my $$ to be lost in space--What about you? I play to cheat, lie, steal and do bad stuff. I get my monies worth. ---------------------- Boom goes the ship! Squish goes the pilot!
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.08 15:49:00 - [8] Well, you can expect a lot of flames, for this Post alone. Sure, EVE is about PvP, but not all kinds of PvP involve shooting the next guy (which I do) but also Honor gets a true meaning in EVE. Yes, you can steal from your corp, scam and betray your Buddies, because this is just a game. But also you can take the more difficult path and be a Pirate that honors ransoms. Fight for a mutual "GF" in local, after an engagement. Keep your word as as a miner and producer when it comes to fullfilling your contracts. Being a good guy is even more fun and challenge, because the game does not force you to be. It is not stored as a set of numbers, somewhere in the Database, but how the other players see you and how you see yourself. So I can be a good guy because my action do make me, or not, but not because I choose Paladin when I rolled my character. The other way around, I can be a bad guy because of my actions, and not because I rolled a Necromancer.
Khorian Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.08 15:54:00 - [9] Awww, you really ARE cute ;) --------------------- This is the signature
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.05.08 15:59:00 - [10] Originally by: Cute EvEGirl The game mechanic foster you to cheat, lie, steal and do bad stuff. Yes, im going to become a thief because I play Eve.. that makes sense. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune
Marketcheck2	Posted - 2007.05.08 16:03:00 - [11] Ugly EvEGirl is now happy I'm sure since the competition level is now down.
Captain Neutron Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.08 16:04:00 - [12] Edited by: Captain Neutron on 08/05/2007 16:01:08 I started playing this game specifically to be a good guy and a pirate killer (as I tend to be in any game that allows the choice). But I know I have a long ways to go. For now I'll stick to highsec space and just concentrate on training and mining. But eventually...PvP here I come!!! edit: WTB real avatar. How long does it take?
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.05.08 16:05:00 - [13] Originally by: Deviana Sevidon Well, you can expect a lot of flames, for this Post alone. Sure, EVE is about PvP, but not all kinds of PvP involve shooting the next guy (which I do) but also Honor gets a true meaning in EVE. Yes, you can steal from your corp, scam and betray your Buddies, because this is just a game. But also you can take the more difficult path and be a Pirate that honors ransoms. Fight for a mutual "GF" in local, after an engagement. Keep your word as as a miner and producer when it comes to fullfilling your contracts. Being a good guy is even more fun and challenge, because the game does not force you to be. It is not stored as a set of numbers, somewhere in the Database, but how the other players see you and how you see yourself. So I can be a good guy because my action do make me, or not, but not because I choose Paladin when I rolled my character. The other way around, I can be a bad guy because of my actions, and not because I rolled a Necromancer. In this way, EVE is like Matrix Online. Your role is defined by what you plug into your ship. Tanks, DPS, mezzers, buffers, healers, pet handlers. They're all here, just in a techie skin without all the handwaving and hocus pocus and you can play whichever you want determined solely by the ship you undock in. This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless...
Rhaegor Stormborn Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.05.08 16:06:00 - [14] Don't pay anymore?
Drunk Driver Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.08 16:08:00 - [15] I PvP and Carebear. I do whichever I feel like doing whenever I feel like doing it. If anybody out there doesn't like that then they can go pack sand up their pooh projector.
hundurinn Energy.	Posted - 2007.05.08 16:08:00 - [16] Originally by: Cute EvEGirl hundurinn-- I swear you are a rock. My english may not be the best... but where does it say, that I am leaving.. another PvP rock. I love this game. I'm just keeping the possibilities open Energy Recruitment Thread
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.05.08 16:16:00 - [17] Originally by: Cute EvEGirl Hey PvPers, I got it! Roger!! Loud and Clear!! This is a PvP game. You win. No debate on my part. The reason I am opening a new thread on this same old topic is that most of you whiners are PvPers. So here is my fuel to the fire and/or support. I don't give a hooot about you killing another ship, becuase all you do is whine about it anyway. The game mechanic foster you to cheat, lie, steal and do bad stuff. I don't expect anyone in EvE online to have honor and respect-- It is a game... If the designers allowed you to do... then do it. Go be the bad azz as you are. I want to hear you roar. GRRRRG!! Sadly, it is not my cup of tea.... I will just smiply mine, manufacture, chat and/or just hang out like a good carebear. I am paying my $$ to be lost in space--What about you? Welcome to EvE Online. V/r Cute "Hips Don't Lie" Whoa, hold on. Thou shalt not assume. There's a lotta people who play this game, and while not all of them are going to smile when you fly by, not all of them are going to flatten you like an ant for kicks, either. When someone attacks, check their corp and alliance information. Learn who the people who will attack you are, and learn to avoid them. Learn how to travel in areas where you can be attacked. Learn how to cover your butt from unnecessary aggression. Don't assume the ability to go someplace means you necessarily belong there. This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless...
Kalahari Wayrest	Posted - 2007.05.08 16:25:00 - [18] I'm not sure I see your point. You seem to be saying the Pvpers can pvp and you can mine, manufacture, chat/or just hang out. Um, good? The game does accomodate both playstyles, so what's the problem? I see it as more of a sandbox set up than the game fostering a certain playstyle - I think what developed was more natural progression than trying to get people to do 'bad stuff'; just because the options are there (and they should be there, why should a gaming experience be limited? As far as I'm concerned, limiting experience is the opposite of what developers should be doing) doesn't mean it's preferred or suggested over other ways of playing the game. Was the thread set up to argue further? It seems not by the 'no debate on my part' but it seems so by the 'here is my fuel to the fire and/or support.' Is your thread genuinely intended to ask what peoples eve professions are in the 'what about you?' or is it a rhetorical question used to underscore your point, whatever that was Sorry if I'm being dense, I honestly don't understand what you're trying to do here __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
Roshan longshot Gallente Ordos Humanitas FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.08 16:31:00 - [19] Originally by: Cute EvEGirl Hey PvPers, I got it! Roger!! Loud and Clear!! This is a PvP game. You win. No debate on my part. The reason I am opening a new thread on this same old topic is that most of you whiners are PvPers. So here is my fuel to the fire and/or support. I don't give a hooot about you killing another ship, becuase all you do is whine about it anyway. The game mechanic foster you to cheat, lie, steal and do bad stuff. I don't expect anyone in EvE online to have honor and respect-- It is a game... If the designers allowed you to do... then do it. Go be the bad azz as you are. I want to hear you roar. GRRRRG!! Sadly, it is not my cup of tea.... I will just smiply mine, manufacture, chat and/or just hang out like a good carebear. I am paying my $$ to be lost in space--What about you? Welcome to EvE Online. V/r Cute "Hips Don't Lie" Yeap, you got it...And I am about to engage in another form of PvP...I am going to destroy one section of the Tech II market...only way to stop me is buy my print, for my price YARRRRRRRRR Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter *pirate* or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box.
LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.05.08 16:35:00 - [20] Originally by: Cute EvEGirl Hey PvPers, I got it! Roger!! Loud and Clear!! This is a PvP game. You win. No debate on my part. The reason I am opening a new thread on this same old topic is that most of you whiners are PvPers. So here is my fuel to the fire and/or support. I don't give a hooot about you killing another ship, becuase all you do is whine about it anyway. The game mechanic foster you to cheat, lie, steal and do bad stuff. I don't expect anyone in EvE online to have honor and respect-- It is a game... If the designers allowed you to do... then do it. Go be the bad azz as you are. I want to hear you roar. GRRRRG!! Sadly, it is not my cup of tea.... I will just smiply mine, manufacture, chat and/or just hang out like a good carebear. I am paying my $$ to be lost in space--What about you? Welcome to EvE Online. V/r Cute "Hips Don't Lie" ok so pvpers are whiners and indutrialists do spam the forums?
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.05.08 16:37:00 - [21] The more play styles the game accomodates, the better. ------------------- Say What?
FarScape III	Posted - 2007.05.08 16:39:00 - [22] Cool, you are not wrong, of course no ne can say what EVE is in just one post let alone a book, but I know you were not trying to do that. So I'll tell you what I think from my corner of EVE, I suck at PvP fighting but I guess I like it, so the only thing I can do is either enjoy being the hunted victum or forget it. I do agree the game is mostly about power, any way you can get it too, and I agree their are many many ways in EVE and many types of PvP in EVE. So I guess at least EVE stands up for what Online games MMORPG's are sapposed to be. And when the walking start and everthing the goes with it then EVE will realy start getting its RPG on! :) Have a good day. A Minmater City... Cool! My Stats :)
FarScape III	Posted - 2007.05.08 16:46:00 - [23] Edited by: FarScape III on 08/05/2007 16:50:35 A Minmater City... Cool! My Stats :)
Kastlaadia	Posted - 2007.05.08 17:47:00 - [24] Edited by: Kastlaadia on 08/05/2007 17:45:36 So, you like to : Mine Manufacture Chat and Hang Out Well ..... Clicky
Horatio Nately Caldari 808 Enterprises	Posted - 2007.05.08 17:50:00 - [25] sounds like someone stole back from an ore thief --------------------------------------- CEO 808 Enterprises, A Hawaii, USA Playercorp Serving The Caldari State.
Kyden Gallente Path of Light Hell Hounds	Posted - 2007.05.08 22:07:00 - [26] Originally by: Janu Hull Originally by: Deviana Sevidon Well, you can expect a lot of flames, for this Post alone. Sure, EVE is about PvP, but not all kinds of PvP involve shooting the next guy (which I do) but also Honor gets a true meaning in EVE. Yes, you can steal from your corp, scam and betray your Buddies, because this is just a game. But also you can take the more difficult path and be a Pirate that honors ransoms. Fight for a mutual "GF" in local, after an engagement. Keep your word as as a miner and producer when it comes to fullfilling your contracts. Being a good guy is even more fun and challenge, because the game does not force you to be. It is not stored as a set of numbers, somewhere in the Database, but how the other players see you and how you see yourself. So I can be a good guy because my action do make me, or not, but not because I choose Paladin when I rolled my character. The other way around, I can be a bad guy because of my actions, and not because I rolled a Necromancer. In this way, EVE is like Matrix Online. Your role is defined by what you plug into your ship. Tanks, DPS, mezzers, buffers, healers, pet handlers. They're all here, just in a techie skin without all the handwaving and hocus pocus and you can play whichever you want determined solely by the ship you undock in. I see your point, in mxo u can switch loads, u arent binded to just one play style, but eve is nothhing like that piece of crap. off topic: May i ask what your char name is in mxo and what server you played on most?
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.05.08 22:10:00 - [27] Edited by: Janu Hull on 08/05/2007 22:06:57 Originally by: Kyden Originally by: Janu Hull Originally by: Deviana Sevidon Well, you can expect a lot of flames, for this Post alone. Sure, EVE is about PvP, but not all kinds of PvP involve shooting the next guy (which I do) but also Honor gets a true meaning in EVE. Yes, you can steal from your corp, scam and betray your Buddies, because this is just a game. But also you can take the more difficult path and be a Pirate that honors ransoms. Fight for a mutual "GF" in local, after an engagement. Keep your word as as a miner and producer when it comes to fullfilling your contracts. Being a good guy is even more fun and challenge, because the game does not force you to be. It is not stored as a set of numbers, somewhere in the Database, but how the other players see you and how you see yourself. So I can be a good guy because my action do make me, or not, but not because I choose Paladin when I rolled my character. The other way around, I can be a bad guy because of my actions, and not because I rolled a Necromancer. In this way, EVE is like Matrix Online. Your role is defined by what you plug into your ship. Tanks, DPS, mezzers, buffers, healers, pet handlers. They're all here, just in a techie skin without all the handwaving and hocus pocus and you can play whichever you want determined solely by the ship you undock in. I see your point, in mxo u can switch loads, u arent binded to just one play style, but eve is nothhing like that piece of crap. off topic: May i ask what your char name is in mxo and what server you played on most? I was Janu in MxO, and on the Recursion server. Got to about level 20 before most of us in OZ were....snooze. Pretty game, but very very very veryveryveryveryveryveryveryveryvery grindy. And to clarify, I only meant it was like MxO in the sense you mentioned. It is very much a superior game in other respects. This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless...
Xtreem Gallente Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2007.05.08 22:11:00 - [28] Originally by: Miss Anthropy Originally by: Xtreem oh and simply reponse.. dumb topic! Another simple response - spell checker is your friend! sure, soon as they put into code and make it available on the forums i will, untill then i will continue to type quickly and not care about spelling, i was repling to a post, not handing in a document at work, oh and fyi, just becuase my spelling is poor does not mean you have to flame me as a person, just shows up a poor responce imo

Sergeant Bilko Caldari Caldari Navy	Posted - 2007.05.08 22:35:00 - [29] Edited by: Sergeant Bilko on 08/05/2007 22:34:56 Edited by: Sergeant Bilko on 08/05/2007 22:33:18 Edited by: Sergeant Bilko on 08/05/2007 22:32:34 Heres a chart to help you in your eve travels. SKILL POINTS.....................TACTICS........................NUMBERS None...........................Decent......................... ..Few None.............................None.................... ..Need Craploads None.......................Erwin Rommel Tactics.................None Some.............................Decent.........................None Mad Skillz Yo!.....................None..........................None Pick a row and roll with it.

Nero Scuro Jejaikaro Corporation	Posted - 2007.05.08 23:01:00 - [30] There are tens if not hundreds of MMOs out there that cater to PvE, casual, always-consentual players (mostly because they're the lowest common denominator). There are ten, at most, MMOs out there that cater to PvP, hardcore, realism-centric players - and yet you feel the need to change one of these MMOs to another of the PvE variety for no good reason. If you like consentual PvP, grind-based gameplay and a world where the very hand of god will descend and put a stop to all that nasty griefing going on, play WoW. This is not a goddamn insult, get over yourself. We say it because you'll enjoy WoW (or a similar game, your choice) more. You'll have everything you want and you won't have to change any games to get it. We'll enjoy our deathtrap of a game staying as it is. Everyone will be happy. Kapisch?
MissileRus	Posted - 2007.05.09 00:36:00 - [31] Edited by: MissileRus on 09/05/2007 00:36:52 WoW was fun when you could become imortal and solo BWL and just stand with your warrior while 10+ peeps tried hurting you then you slaughter them all lol. well point is.. theres been 4 imortal bugs in WoW, 5 if counting a bugged cheap spell that made your life regenerate forever.. CCP's bugs might be severe at times, but i dont think they been that severe.. real point is i hate wow, it was fun 1-40 at the beginning pvping in low lvl areas then they just ruined it. i didnt even know it was a raid game until they removed all the world pvp, atleast you could hurt someone a bit back then.. now its all 25 sec respawns and 10 seconds to get back in the fight.. well.. the real real point is.. i actualy played wow, so i just wanted to let it out of my screaming soul.. sometimes you need breaks and play something new edit: hug? --------------------------- 4. i like pizza
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2007.05.09 13:28:00 - [32] You know, all this pleading for everybody to see it your way, it only works if you are as cute as you make out you are, and only with veiled offerings of sex meshed in it. Get a mySpace, show us yer bits, and rant away. kthnxbye. Eve: Cheats prosper.
Drasked North Face Force Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.09 13:45:00 - [33] Originally by: Gaven Blands You know, all this pleading for everybody to see it your way, it only works if you are as cute as you make out you are, and only with veiled offerings of sex meshed in it. Get a mySpace, show us yer bits, and rant away. kthnxbye. QFT tbh, if you want compassion.. we want nekkid pics
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.05.09 13:49:00 - [34] and this is why girls dont game online. Welcome to the civilised world eh? ob topic. Yes you must lie cheat steal exploit and generally be a lowlife scum to win eve. or alternatively. Sleep with devs like you know who do ;-) SJ. CLS Co-CEO and Standings Director =-
Mogrin	Posted - 2007.05.09 13:55:00 - [35] As said already, pvp is the only reason your ore has any value whatsoever and the only reason people buy tech 1 stuff. You're like a drug dealer preaching on how drug abusers are bad. Just shut up and mine veldspar, i'm the guy who buys it. _______________ Rokh vs. Hyperion
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.05.09 13:58:00 - [36] words fail me
Saori Rei Gallente Arcana Imperii Ltd. The Cartel.	Posted - 2007.05.09 14:03:00 - [37] Cute EvEGirl is right, 100% right. EvE brings out the worst in people since cheating, exploiting, causing people misery is how you get yourself further in the game. Oh and Cute EvEGirl be careful, miners/haulers/etc are great pvp targets because apparently people don't need minerals to build ships >_>
Mogrin	Posted - 2007.05.09 14:08:00 - [38] Oh wow, another one. _______________ Rokh vs. Hyperion
Lisento Slaven Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.05.09 14:28:00 - [39] As far as I can tell the purpose of this topic was to ask the question "What about you?" in reference to way you pay for EVE online. I don't know why I pay for this game. Sometimes I go pirating. Sometimes I go be a good guy and help people out. Sometimes I go kill pirates. Other times I may mine an asteroid. And yet again I go do missions every once in a while. I was thinking of trying out exploration if I can get it to work good for me but who knows. I think I pay for a sandbox to do whatever I want at the time that I want to do it =P --- Lisento Slaven wants to be a Space Whaler in EVE. Put in space whales!
Fey Delade Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.05.09 14:28:00 - [40] Originally by: Saori Rei Cute EvEGirl is right, 100% right. EvE brings out the worst in people since cheating, exploiting, causing people misery is how you get yourself further in the game. Oh and Cute EvEGirl be careful, miners/haulers/etc are great pvp targets because apparently people don't need minerals to build ships >_> About a month ago, while browsing online comics, I saw a flash banner add for EvE. It went something like "It's like the US Economy...except you can blow the $^%( out of people". This is not Hello Kitty Island Advantures. Deal with it, or get a new game.
Gaia's Wrath	Posted - 2007.05.09 14:51:00 - [41] Ok lets clear things up a bit. Eve-Online is NOT a PVP game, abandon that concept. It is in fact an open sandbox game where pvp is simply the primary way of effecting change in the game. Eve allows you to generally do as you please, which is why I love this game. So if I feel like relaxing and listneing to mining lasers I will, if I feel like hunting someone down repeatly and ruining their day simply to satisfy my inner A-Hole well I will. So go play Eve anyway you want too and enjoy it.
Fey Delade Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.05.09 14:55:00 - [42] Originally by: Gaia's Wrath Ok lets clear things up a bit. Eve-Online is NOT a PVP game, abandon that concept. It is in fact an open sandbox game where pvp is simply the primary way of effecting change in the game. Eve allows you to generally do as you please, which is why I love this game. So if I feel like relaxing and listneing to mining lasers I will, if I feel like hunting someone down repeatly and ruining their day simply to satisfy my inner A-Hole well I will. So go play Eve anyway you want too and enjoy it. QFT (although in my previous post one could gather I'm under the impression that this is a PVP game, that's not my point. I was a miner/hauler in ASCN )
Kalahari Wayrest	Posted - 2007.05.09 16:46:00 - [43] There seem to be a couple of definitions of pvp floating around in this thread... one in a general sense of player vs player, a competativeness that all mmos have by nature (yes, even WoW) given you're playing with others, but is more pronounced in eve due to the market being player driven, the finite nature of resources etc. (though for that reason I'd argue that the necessity to work together is also more pronounced in eve) another in the specific sense of player vs player combat; wars, pirating etc. From what I've read it seems when people are saying eve is a pvp game they mean the former, and when people say it's not they mean the latter. The former includes the latter, but they're not neccesarily mutually exclusive. Quote: EvE brings out the worst in people since cheating, exploiting, causing people misery is how you get yourself further in the game. No, it's one way how to get yourself further in the game. __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
Arokan Manturi Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.09 18:28:00 - [44] Well from how i see it, most people whine about things that they think ruin the gameplay.
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.05.09 19:25:00 - [45] PvP might be a poor way of putting it because of the way we associate PvP with combat. EVE is a player based game. Player economy, player politics, player empires, player militaries, player pirates, player companies. Moreso than any other game, save one (Original SWG, may she rest peacefully) has ever been, this game is utterly driven by player created content. The politics of the NPC empires and pirates are backstory, utterly pointless except as fuel for the machines of player states. EVE isn't just a PvP game, its a Player Universe game. Its all about us in the end. This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless...
Malcanis High4Life	Posted - 2007.05.09 19:31:00 - [46] Being good is meaningless unless you have the option to be evil. The freedom to choose in EVE is why I pay for my accounts. Just like the freedom to choose in real life is why I bother to get out of bed.
HelloDevette	Posted - 2007.05.09 19:58:00 - [47] "PvP" is a joke of a term. Why do you need a special term to describe what any given person is already expected to be doing when playing a video game? Furthermore, way to go on putting "girl" in both your name and thread title to seek extra attention.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.05.09 20:04:00 - [48] Originally by: HelloDevette "PvP" is a joke of a term. Why do you need a special term to describe what any given person is already expected to be doing when playing a[n online] video game? Furthermore, way to go on putting "girl" in both your name and thread title to seek extra attention. *fixed and QFT ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Jenny Spitfire Caldari Requiem of Hades	Posted - 2007.05.09 20:27:00 - [49] Isn't PVP a slang for multiplayer? --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.05.09 20:33:00 - [50] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Isn't PVP a slang for multiplayer? Nope. Multiplayer doesn't necessarily imply players competing with one another. PvE raiding is also multiplayer. This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless...
Jenny Spitfire Caldari Requiem of Hades	Posted - 2007.05.09 20:47:00 - [51] Originally by: Janu Hull Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Isn't PVP a slang for multiplayer? Nope. Multiplayer doesn't necessarily imply players competing with one another. PvE raiding is also multiplayer. So PVP is competitive play and PVE is coorperative play? --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.05.09 20:49:00 - [52] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Isn't PVP a slang for multiplayer? No, PVP implies that you're challenging your skills against the more advanced AI known as "other people". There are games out there that are multiplayer and not PvP, one needs only look nextdoor at WoW. Though I agree with the joke that WoW seems like everyone playing single player, just all together.
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.05.09 20:51:00 - [53] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Janu Hull Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Isn't PVP a slang for multiplayer? Nope. Multiplayer doesn't necessarily imply players competing with one another. PvE raiding is also multiplayer. So PVP is competitive play and PVE is coorperative play? Its not even really delineable that way, either. PvP does require some level of cooperation to keep it from being an every man for himself free for all, and PvE ultimately boils down to "he who logs off with the most toys wins." This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless...
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.05.09 20:52:00 - [54] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Isn't PVP a slang for multiplayer? No, PVP implies that you're challenging your skills against the more advanced AI known as "other people". There are games out there that are multiplayer and not PvP, one needs only look nextdoor at WoW. Though I agree with the joke that WoW seems like everyone playing single player, just all together. WoW has quite a bit of PvP, actually, just no real loss other than a rank metagame. This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless...
Siege Minmatar Siegecraft Bounty Hunting	Posted - 2007.05.09 20:54:00 - [55] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Janu Hull Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Isn't PVP a slang for multiplayer? Nope. Multiplayer doesn't necessarily imply players competing with one another. PvE raiding is also multiplayer. So PVP is competitive play and PVE is coorperative play? Correct. PvP (player vs. player) is players competing against each other. PvE (player vs. environment) is players competing against computer driven entities. Both can involve groups of players, the difference is not if they are multiplayer or not, but what the human players are playing against. WOW is, as much as we bash it, a near perfect example of a mainly PvE system (with some pvp aspects, but very secondary) where multiple players play as a group to defeat computer driven enemies in the various environments.
Sal Alo Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.05.10 01:14:00 - [56] Edited by: Sal Alo on 10/05/2007 01:11:39 I have both honor & respect because I never stolen a can and I helped a lot of newbies (I have trained some nice corps' ceos). And if your granny needs to cross the road, you can call me!
CrestoftheStars Deviance Inc	Posted - 2007.05.10 06:15:00 - [57] hehe love the ironi and way of writing;) give'me give'me. :P yer, visuality and anonymity makes all those "strong" and mighty people be such "mature" and nice players;) hehe Originally by: Cute EvEGirl Hey PvPers, I got it! Roger!! Loud and Clear!! This is a PvP game. You win. No debate on my part. The reason I am opening a new thread on this same old topic is that most of you whiners are PvPers. So here is my fuel to the fire and/or support. I don't give a hooot about you killing another ship, becuase all you do is whine about it anyway. The game mechanic foster you to cheat, lie, steal and do bad stuff. I don't expect anyone in EvE online to have honor and respect-- It is a game... If the designers allowed you to do... then do it. Go be the bad azz as you are. I want to hear you roar. GRRRRG!! Sadly, it is not my cup of tea.... I will just smiply mine, manufacture, chat and/or just hang out like a good carebear. I am paying my $$ to be lost in space--What about you? Welcome to EvE Online. V/r Cute "Hips Don't Lie" ___________________________________________ if eve had This kind of control system combinet with it's SP and advanced weaponry system it have. http://sco.gpotato.com/
Miz Cenuij OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.05.10 06:35:00 - [58] Originally by: Cute EvEGirl I am paying my $$ to be lost in space--What about you? There is no need to be lost in space, the Devs gave us a map! "Men are going to die.. and im going to kill them".
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2007.05.10 09:40:00 - [59] Originally by: Sal Alo I have both honor & respect because I never stolen a can and I helped a lot of newbies (I have trained some nice corps' ceos). And if your granny needs to cross the road, you can call me! Good stuff, not sure about honour or respect, but My chief weapon is Surprise! and Fear. Two, my two weapons are fear and surprise. and ruthless efficiency. My three weapons are fear, surprise and ruthless efficiency. And an almost fanatical devotion to isk. Four. My four main weapons.... Oh sod it. Point is, I'm the opposite, but the same. I'm happy to bring the hurt down on people, and those who want to discuss how badly it went for them get to learn about a few things. If I ransom some 8 day old in his first dessie for 100K and he gets to learn about can flagging, or nos, then he got a bargain. Of course if they just want to rant and scream and shout, they will typically learn nothing, ever. See: OP. Eve: Cheats prosper.

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