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pooi Scalion
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.26 13:39:39 -
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Hi!
As the title said, I'm a very new player that is looking for some guiding in procuring and equipping my first Cruiser for PVE, I am running security missions in gallante federation territory and i just got the skill to be able to command a cruiser.
I have done some searching but most of what i find seem to be 4-5 years old and i do not know if these options are still viable or not.
I would greatly appreciate tips and suggestions on which cruiser and what to fit it with and if i need to get any other skills before its i am ready to start the level 2 missions
//Pooi lost in space
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Keno Skir
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Posted - 2017.04.26 13:58:36 -
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Vexor.
Uses drones which will help you mitigate damage, nice n flexible especially for PvE. Requires semi decent drone skills but those are worth the train anyway. Highslots for either turrets (extra dps) or energy vampires (extra cap).
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Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2017.04.26 14:00:33 -
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As opposed to frigates, where speed matters because you're fast and agile and thus hard to hit, cruisers are slow enough that you'll have to fit an actual tank for defenses.
So, for fitting, you should look at a fitting guide. To sum it up, for PVE you probably want medium to short range, because the NPCs will fly to you and orbit until they die (not very smart), so look at the medium blasters and/or small / medium drones. Then you wan an afterburner so you can control the range during the fight.
And then you want a tank. PVE fights are often wave after wave of weak enemies, you need endurance with your tank. For comparison, PVP fights are very short, enemy sees you and they unload everything as hard as possible, and someone dies within 15-30 seconds, so you need a tough tank but not necessarily endurance.
So a tank consists of a repair module (shield booster or armor repairer), resistance modules (shield hardeners, armor hardeners), and possibly some hitpoints (shield extender, armor plates). Which tank you fit (shields vs. armor) depends on the ship; shields use mid slots, armor uses low slots, so decide based on the slot layout of the ship.
Now, for Gallente cruisers, you have a couple options: the Vexor is a very versatile ship that uses drones + blasters, and the Thorax is a gun boat (blasters).
Gun boats like the Thorax are easy to fit: put in the guns, put in a couple of magnetic field stabilizers in the low slots to increase gun DPS, then go for the afterburner and the armor tank.
The Vexor offers a couple tricks:
1. Drones don't require fitting resources (power grid, CPU, or slots), so you can just rely on drones for damage and remove the guns. This gives you enough power grid on the ship to let you fit oversized (battleship size) armor plates (800mm or 1600mm plates), for a huge pool of hitpoints.
2. Otherwise you can go for drones + guns for very nice damage, but your tank will be somewhat weaker. The Vexor has enough slots to give you a choice between armor OR shields, depending on what skills you've trained.
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Sara Starbuck
Adamantine Creations
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Posted - 2017.04.26 14:24:55 -
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For pve i would actually pick rails over blasters since range helps with new peoples tank and blasters are so shortrange on t1 and new players, rest i totally agree with though (just dont go with armorplates for pve, repper and resists over armorbuffer). |
Do Little
Virgin Plc Evictus.
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Posted - 2017.04.26 14:53:43 -
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Vexor is the standard PVE platform for Gallente. Some tips on flying the ship for nullsec ratting can be found : https://wiki.braveineve.com/public/dojo/vexor-newbro-edition
Highsec level 2 missions are a lot easier but also a lot less rewarding. The basic concept is similar - orbit something at high speed to speed tank the damage and let your drones do the work. For level 2 missions you won't be facing battleships and can skip the heavy drones. |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
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Posted - 2017.04.26 15:38:25 -
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I'll add my vote to the Vexor pile. Drones are your little friends.
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pooi Scalion
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.26 17:32:02 -
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Thank you all for the help!
I really appreciate it! |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1991
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Posted - 2017.04.27 02:15:37 -
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Keep in mind that range is your friend when it comes to damage mitigation. One of the main benefits of a drone boat like the vexor is that you can keep at a range where you take very little damage and let your drones get in close to do your dirty work for you.
IMHO the most important part of fitting a ship is knowing how you plan on using it. |
Honrado deQuiros
Cartella Shipments and Storage
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Posted - 2017.04.27 05:52:43 -
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Vexor Osmium search https://o.smium.org/search?q=vexor
People usually recommend the Vexor because you can choose damage type, they dont use ammo (the drones are considered the ammo as they are lost sometimes), and you can employ range/speed tanking, which will help free up slots in your ship for more damage, speed, drone range, etc.
There are also other Vexor posts here in this sub forum, so I suggest you check them out. |
Tsutomi Sakuma
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.04.27 08:48:18 -
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[Vexor, Mission Runner] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Armor Thermal Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II
10MN Afterburner II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Drone Navigation Computer II Medium Cap Battery II
Drone Link Augmentor II 200mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Federation Navy Lead Charge M 200mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Federation Navy Lead Charge M 200mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Federation Navy Lead Charge M
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5
Just noodled this fit out on EFT, for giggles.
Of course, swap to T1 and named variants depending on your skills. ~80% of the damage from this sort of fit comes from the drones, with you maintaining 25-35km range. Change the hardeners to fit the mission profile. Should get around 5 minutes of cap with everything running, double that without the AB cycling, very stable when you are not cycling the rep module. Swap one of the drone damage amps for 800mm plates for a LARGE boost in armor buffer (+60%-ish EHP) at a cost of 15-20% DPS. |
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