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Elonaris Pokto
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.04.29 12:30:18 -
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i mean...what is it good for?
Stepping on the nerves of people who's face you don't like nothing more......
You can give bounty for no reason......
Bounty should be binded to a crime not to a dislike of a person.....
If you've done something against the law you deserve bounty,if not it's just a abused feature..... |
Nalia White
Tencus
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Posted - 2017.04.29 12:34:18 -
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Elonaris Pokto wrote:i mean...what is it good for?
Stepping on the nerves of people who's face you don't like nothing more......
You can give bounty for no reason......
Bounty should be binded to a crime not to a dislike of a person.....
If you've done something against the law you deserve bounty,if not it's just a abused feature.....
i think it's fine how it is. there is another system in place for crime. it's called sec status :)
i agree that the term bounty is not very fitting but the system behind it is quite fine.
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Soloman Jackson
Ancient Rhythm
727
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Posted - 2017.04.29 12:34:25 -
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Dislike for a person?!? I see them as "Friendship Points". The more you collect the more folks like you. I mean, would they take the time to place a bounty if you didn't hold a special place in their heart? I think not!
GÇ£The cold stars spun to the ancient rhythm, the august march of an everlasting symphony. They are old, the stars, and their memory is long.GÇ¥ -Rick Yancey
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Elonaris Pokto
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2017.04.29 12:39:03 -
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no...simply no...there is no need for this crap.....
as long as you can give it to everyone without reason....
this should be restricted and had to be overviewed and to be released by an isd/gm and only if there is a reason above "i don't like him" behind.... |
Soloman Jackson
Ancient Rhythm
727
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Posted - 2017.04.29 12:44:51 -
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Elonaris Pokto wrote:no...simply no...there is no need for this crap.....
as long as you can give it to everyone without reason....
this should be restricted and had to be overviewed and to be released by an isd/gm and only if there is a reason above "i don't like him" behind....
Reviewed by ISD/Gm?!? Do you realize how many are given out everyday? That would be a waste of their time and CCP's resources.
I'm sure there is a reason behind every bounty given. It may be a small reason, but a reason none the less.
For instance, I given them to folks so they feel wanted. They can tell they are wanted by the banner across their portrait! I do it because I care. :)
Perhaps it's your view of the system that is twisted. Why do you see them as a bad thing?
GÇ£The cold stars spun to the ancient rhythm, the august march of an everlasting symphony. They are old, the stars, and their memory is long.GÇ¥ -Rick Yancey
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Cade Windstalker
1483
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Posted - 2017.04.29 13:24:30 -
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You seem to be misinterpreting how the bounty system actually gets used. Every Bounty I've got is from *friends* not enemies.
If someone put a bounty on you it basically means nothing, and no one is going to come after you just for the bounty. |
Cherry Sulphate
ojingo
58
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Posted - 2017.04.29 13:56:16 -
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"Elonaris Pokto"; this is the character i should be adding the bounty to, yeah? |
Elonaris Pokto
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2017.04.29 14:14:06 -
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Soloman Jackson wrote:Elonaris Pokto wrote:no...simply no...there is no need for this crap.....
as long as you can give it to everyone without reason....
this should be restricted and had to be overviewed and to be released by an isd/gm and only if there is a reason above "i don't like him" behind.... Reviewed by ISD/Gm?!? Do you realize how many are given out everyday? That would be a waste of their time and CCP's resources. I'm sure there is a reason behind every bounty given. It may be a small reason, but a reason none the less. For instance, I given them to folks so they feel wanted. They can tell they are wanted by the banner across their portrait! I do it because I care. :) Perhaps it's your view of the system that is twisted. Why do you see them as a bad thing?
Well...that's a good reason for kicking it from the live servers.....
And no....a system that can be abused this way has no reason to exist.....
Crap stays crap even if the whole world tries to convince you its gold..... |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1423
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Posted - 2017.04.29 14:19:22 -
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Soloman Jackson wrote:Dislike for a person?!? I see them as "Friendship Points". The more you collect the more folks like you. I mean, would they take the time to place a bounty if you didn't hold a special place in their heart? I think not!
What happens if I placed bounties on myself? Does that mean the only friends I have is myself?
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Soloman Jackson
Ancient Rhythm
727
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Posted - 2017.04.29 14:28:07 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:Soloman Jackson wrote:Dislike for a person?!? I see them as "Friendship Points". The more you collect the more folks like you. I mean, would they take the time to place a bounty if you didn't hold a special place in their heart? I think not! What happens if I placed bounties on myself? Does that mean the only friends I have is myself?
Sadly, I'm afraid so. :(
Perhaps if you gave "Friendship points" to others they will return the favor. I find the most receptive to "Friendship Points" are high sec mission runners and miners. They usually return the love once you shower them with it.
Good luck! I hope you find the friends you're looking for! :)
GÇ£The cold stars spun to the ancient rhythm, the august march of an everlasting symphony. They are old, the stars, and their memory is long.GÇ¥ -Rick Yancey
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1765
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Posted - 2017.04.29 14:30:14 -
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Elonaris Pokto wrote:Bounty should be binded to a crime not to a dislike of a person.....
If you've done something against the law you deserve bounty,if not it's just an abused feature..... Bounty is only needed where the law doesn't cut it. If the law and law enforcement can handle it, bounty is not required. If you do something that is against the law, then FacPo and CONCORD will take care of you. Bounty is for those cases where you did something and CONCORD/FacPo don't give a **** - say, you went full Awox, cleared out your corps hangars and murdered a bunch of blues on your way out.
The bounty system is broken, though. However, As of yet I have not seen a good suggestion on how to fix it, and I do not think there can be one. I do not see a reason to "kill" it either, though. It's not like it hurts anyone. |
Elonaris Pokto
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2017.04.29 14:34:47 -
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Soloman Jackson wrote:Yang Aurilen wrote:Soloman Jackson wrote:Dislike for a person?!? I see them as "Friendship Points". The more you collect the more folks like you. I mean, would they take the time to place a bounty if you didn't hold a special place in their heart? I think not! What happens if I placed bounties on myself? Does that mean the only friends I have is myself? Sadly, I'm afraid so. :( Perhaps if you gave "Friendship points" to others they will return the favor. I find the most receptive to "Friendship Points" are high sec mission runners and miners. They usually return the love once you shower them with it. Good luck! I hope you find the friends you're looking for! :)
Crap and what comes out of the rear end of bulls...... |
Elonaris Pokto
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2017.04.29 14:38:23 -
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Neuntausend wrote:Elonaris Pokto wrote:Bounty should be binded to a crime not to a dislike of a person.....
If you've done something against the law you deserve bounty,if not it's just an abused feature..... Bounty is only needed where the law doesn't cut it. If the law and law enforcement can handle it, bounty is not required. If you do something that is against the law, then FacPo and CONCORD will take care of you. Bounty is for those cases where you did something and CONCORD/FacPo don't give a **** - say, you went full Awox, cleared out your corps hangars and murdered a bunch of blues on your way out. The bounty system is broken, though. However, As of yet I have not seen a good suggestion on how to fix it, and I do not think there can be one. I do not see a reason to "kill" it either, though. It's not like it hurts anyone.
Right...if you've DONE something beside a "not liked nose".....
Possibility of giving bounty for no reason = kick it from servers,delete it,trample on it,falt it and scratch it into tiny pieces that slowly drift away..... |
Soloman Jackson
Ancient Rhythm
727
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Posted - 2017.04.29 14:41:11 -
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Elonaris Pokto wrote: Crap and what comes out of the rear end of bulls......
Awwww! Cheer up Debbie Downer! It's not as bad as you're making it out to be.
Maybe you should spread around some "Friendship Points"! You never know, you may find some friends that'll turn that frown upside down! Never say never!
Before you turn your nose at the idea, remember the old saying...
Don't knock it until you try it.
Good luck, I hope you find someone to pull you out of this funk. I will send you a care package of "Friendship Points" to get you started.
Don't thank me. It's my pleasure! o7
GÇ£The cold stars spun to the ancient rhythm, the august march of an everlasting symphony. They are old, the stars, and their memory is long.GÇ¥ -Rick Yancey
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Elonaris Pokto
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2017.04.29 14:45:40 -
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Soloman Jackson wrote:Elonaris Pokto wrote: Crap and what comes out of the rear end of bulls......
Awwww! Cheer up Debbie Downer! It's not as bad as you're making it out to be. Maybe you should spread around some "Friendship Points"! You never know, you may find some friends that'll turn that frown upside down! Never say never! Before you turn your nose at the idea, remember the old saying... Don't knock it until you try it. Good luck, I hope you find someone to pull you out of this funk. I will send you a care package of "Friendship Points" to get you started. Don't thank me. It's my pleasure! o7
some things you don't have to try to know what they are....the smell and the look are good enough for a decision..... :-) |
Chopper Rollins
Far Beyond Triggered
1846
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Posted - 2017.04.29 15:05:38 -
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Bounties are EvE likes.
OP, threads like this are a good way to beg for bounties, assuming you didn't know that.
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Soloman Jackson
Ancient Rhythm
727
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Posted - 2017.04.29 15:05:46 -
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Elonaris Pokto wrote:Soloman Jackson wrote:Elonaris Pokto wrote: Crap and what comes out of the rear end of bulls......
Awwww! Cheer up Debbie Downer! It's not as bad as you're making it out to be. Maybe you should spread around some "Friendship Points"! You never know, you may find some friends that'll turn that frown upside down! Never say never! Before you turn your nose at the idea, remember the old saying... Don't knock it until you try it. Good luck, I hope you find someone to pull you out of this funk. I will send you a care package of "Friendship Points" to get you started. Don't thank me. It's my pleasure! o7 some things you don't have to try to know what they are....the smell and the look are good enough for a decision..... :-)
I can see this will take more than a bundle of "Friendship Points" to cheer you up! I'll contact a locator agent and bring the happiness right to you! I can clearly see you need a hug.
Don't worry! If and when your total of "Friendship Points" dwindles to nothing, I'll be right there to replenish! You are WANTED! Never forget that!
o7
GÇ£The cold stars spun to the ancient rhythm, the august march of an everlasting symphony. They are old, the stars, and their memory is long.GÇ¥ -Rick Yancey
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3651
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Posted - 2017.04.29 15:28:08 -
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Elonaris Pokto wrote:no...simply no...there is no need for this crap.....
as long as you can give it to everyone without reason....
this should be restricted and had to be overviewed and to be released by an isd/gm and only if there is a reason above "i don't like him" behind.... You assume there is no reason ... you are wrong. There is always a reason to give a bounty. One reason is ... tears, and you seem to offer a lot of.
Maybe, when you calm down, you will realize that bounties have no further meaning than a "tip" in this game. But as said, as long as people like you keep freaking out about bounties, the mechanic contributes to the player driven world, which New Eden is.
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1590
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Posted - 2017.04.29 15:38:51 -
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Elonaris Pokto wrote:Neuntausend wrote:Elonaris Pokto wrote:Bounty should be binded to a crime not to a dislike of a person.....
If you've done something against the law you deserve bounty,if not it's just an abused feature..... Bounty is only needed where the law doesn't cut it. If the law and law enforcement can handle it, bounty is not required. If you do something that is against the law, then FacPo and CONCORD will take care of you. Bounty is for those cases where you did something and CONCORD/FacPo don't give a **** - say, you went full Awox, cleared out your corps hangars and murdered a bunch of blues on your way out. The bounty system is broken, though. However, As of yet I have not seen a good suggestion on how to fix it, and I do not think there can be one. I do not see a reason to "kill" it either, though. It's not like it hurts anyone. Right...if you've DONE something beside a "not liked nose"..... Possibility of giving bounty for no reason = kick it from servers,delete it,trample on it,falt it and scratch it into tiny pieces that slowly drift away..... It's still a game, you know.
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
423
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Posted - 2017.04.29 15:46:04 -
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Cade Windstalker wrote:You seem to be misinterpreting how the bounty system actually gets used. Every Bounty I've got is from *friends* not enemies.
If someone put a bounty on you it basically means nothing, and no one is going to come after you just for the bounty.
which is why the bounty hunting profession died.
1. bounty quit meaning you had to be a criminal which mostly lived in low/null and if the criminal got to where they could be in high sec you would consider ganking to claim it.
2. Bounty was switch to a % of the kill based on what they are in, keeps people from podding themselves when it gets big enough but also keeps people from considering actually hunting a target.
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Cybertherion
Pneumatic Cabal
60
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Posted - 2017.04.29 15:48:56 -
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Have you just simply tried paying someone to kill your enemy?
That's a bounty.
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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
2903
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Posted - 2017.04.29 15:58:19 -
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Elonaris Pokto wrote:Bounty should be binded to a crime not to a dislike of a person...... what's wrong with putting a bounty on an enemy (aka dislike of a person)? surely giving an incentive to others to make their life harder is a good tactic.
that said the current bounty system is something of a joke, as many have said here no enemy would actually put a bounty on someone as no one actually "bounty hunts" and most bounties are pitifully small.
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Salvos Rhoska
2833
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Posted - 2017.04.29 17:02:38 -
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Bounty works as an isk sink.
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ScanAlt
Imperian Sciences
4
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Posted - 2017.04.29 18:02:04 -
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All this fuss over a 6 million ISK bounty? |
Duke Wendo
hotdropoclock Enterprises The Bastard Cartel
69
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Posted - 2017.04.29 19:22:07 -
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Totally agree it shouild be linked to crime and reward should be whatever is decided to be paid.
It should also be integrated into the contract system to prevent people claiming their own bounty.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounty_hunter-
"A bounty hunter (sometimes called a bounty killer) is a person who captures fugitives and criminals for a monetary reward (bounty). "
Say someone does something naughty in high or low sec (null and w-space have no NPC laws) and they go suspect- then you put up a bounty contract on them either to the public or to a corp or to an individual bounty hunter.
They take the contract and can now legally shoot the criminal ship. Upon it's destruction- they get paid for the contact. EOS.
Yes a guy could take a contact upon himself if it was public- but you wouldn't put it as a public contract... you would give the contract to a bounty hunting corp or individual you know who enjoys that play style. |
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
353
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Posted - 2017.04.29 20:51:41 -
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Soloman Jackson wrote:Dislike for a person?!? I see them as "Friendship Points". The more you collect the more folks like you. I mean, would they take the time to place a bounty if you didn't hold a special place in their heart? I think not!
That's a nice way of putting it, however I am sure my first bounty was placed on me in order to collect tears. Maybe I should check (if player is still in game) whether that was the case.
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Aedaxus
Digital Zone Corp
38
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Posted - 2017.04.29 21:10:10 -
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Elonaris Pokto wrote:i mean...what is it good for?.
It can be used to place a red rectangle with white letters "WANTED" on someone's profile picture to discourage them to buy ingame clothing. Besides from ruining the aesthetics of hours in the create character it adds no more value to the game. should be reworked .
It is not a bounty. It does not make people wanted. It does not give anyone a wreckright or podright. Oh, killright..; lol, ccp should try and play the game more as most of them have no clue how things work or they need a lesson in English. It gets abused but since no one cares it's not that problematic.
In conclusion it's worthless for anyone except trolls and RMT traders. The latter has steeply declined after the decrease in payout.
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Elonaris Pokto
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2017.04.30 07:15:33 -
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Aedaxus wrote:Elonaris Pokto wrote:i mean...what is it good for?. It can be used to place a red rectangle with white letters "WANTED" on someone's profile picture to discourage them to buy ingame clothing. Besides from ruining the aesthetics of hours in the create character it adds no more value to the game. should be reworked . It is not a bounty. It does not make people wanted. It does not give anyone a wreckright or podright. Oh, killright..; lol, ccp should try and play the game more as most of them have no clue how things work or they need a lesson in English. It gets abused but since no one cares it's not that problematic. In conclusion it's worthless for anyone except trolls and RMT traders. The latter has steeply declined after the decrease in payout.
Nope.....
Can be deleted without replacement....
Nobody will miss it... |
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