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Percy Cuscaden
Easy Company
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Posted - 2017.05.02 16:52:50 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote: Instead you chose to whine for a change of game mechanics in your favour.
You choose to label anyone who questions anything which might affect your play style as a whiner.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
3980
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Posted - 2017.05.02 17:03:45 -
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Percy Cuscaden wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote: Instead you chose to whine for a change of game mechanics in your favour. You choose to label anyone who questions anything which might affect your play style as a whiner. I dont need wardecs to kill people in highsec
I lable you a whiner because you are one.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Aaron
Eternal Frontier
631
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Posted - 2017.05.02 17:21:06 -
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Hello Cern Audeles, it's great to have an opportunity to chat with you.
I can relate to your issues very well and I have proposed an idea that will help people to avoid wardecs and get a different perspective of the game. This involves becoming NPC while you gain this new perspective. After the new perspective is gained you could go back to joining or creating a corp and fighting a wardec and have a higher chance of survival and prosperity.
Please find the link to my thread here: The NPC Project
Comms and chat channels will be provided and we will generally build trust with each other and learn more about the game without the threat of a wardec. A corp losing half a billion in one day is a difficult situation.
Please re-sub back to Omega, you and your corp mates should leave the corp and stay in an NPC corp where you will 100% be safe from wardecs. I'm expecting there to be lots of people involved so you will not be alone. There will be people organising regular PVE and PVP ops. You and your corp could operate within the NPC project, build your skills and then go back to fighting wardecs.
I am very excited about all of this and the start to this venture is imminent. I look forward to chatting with you soon. if not good luck.
Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
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Aaron
Eternal Frontier
635
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Posted - 2017.05.02 17:41:38 -
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Percy Cuscaden wrote:Beast of Revelations wrote:So dumb. Such a lack of creative thinking (if such easy to figure out stuff could even be called that). I guess this is the ADHD thing with kids with 0 attention spans furiously typing into handheld devices and wanting everything handed to them. You know *nothing* about either of us beyond that we are paying customers like yourselves, who enjoy the game, but feel there should be an improvement or alternative community tool allowing friends to stay together with out being war decced.
I disagree that there is no mechanic that allows people to avoid wardec's when there blatantly is. Being NPC allows you to avoid a wardec. I think many of us are caught up in a psychological barrier that makes us think being in a corp is the be all and end all to everything.
My previous post here contained a link to my thread that details the particulars for The NPC project. Yes we have to create our own communication network and community tools. In my opinion this is a small price to pay to have immunity from wardecs.
You might complain about the tax rate of being in an NPC corp, all I would say is compare that to your corps losses today which I believe was 500 million.
I know it is hard leaving a corp behind, the corp has been around for 13 years which I admire, It might be time for everyone to leave the corp and put an alt as CEO then put the corp on ice for a period of time while you and your buddies regroup into an NPC corp and gain a new perspective, by all means get your buddies to rejoin the corp once you have this new perspective and fight the good fight.
My proposal for The NPC Project could be interesting. There may be lots of CEO's among us who will later go on to leading corps and have other CEO's and their corps allied with them. So please try to look at this as a "regrouping" in a wrestling match which means you're just stepping out of the arena for a while and conferring with your friends and once you have a solid plan of action you're stepping back into the area and fighting. This is a great opportunity to network with others and work out a plan to fight the common fight.
Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
62132
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Posted - 2017.05.02 18:40:29 -
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Percy Cuscaden wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote: Instead you chose to whine for a change of game mechanics in your favour. You choose to label anyone who questions anything which might affect your play style as a whiner. Don't bother replying to their accusations or remarks, they whine the loudest because they're the most risk adverse players in the game. If they were actual PvP'ers, they'd be taking Sov in Null Sec. Check their KB record, they only attack the weakest ships in the game.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
3980
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Posted - 2017.05.02 18:47:36 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Percy Cuscaden wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote: Instead you chose to whine for a change of game mechanics in your favour. You choose to label anyone who questions anything which might affect your play style as a whiner. Don't bother replying to their accusations or remarks, they whine the loudest because they're the most risk adverse players in the game. If they were actual PvP'ers, they'd be taking Sov in Null Sec. Check their KB record, they only attack the weakest ships in the game. DMC Tough words from someone who is even afraid to join a corp.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
62133
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Posted - 2017.05.02 19:20:53 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote: Tough words from someone who is even afraid to join a corp.
Heh, your constant vile blusterous posturing indicates you're just compensating for lack of RL-Peen.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Jenn aSide
shinigami miners ChaosTheory.
15765
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Posted - 2017.05.02 19:30:26 -
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I can't even remember now how many times we've seen the same thread.
-Person is so casual they generally don't even play EVE has a problem with something and runs to the forum DEMANDING changes.
-Doesn't even try to use the already existing game mechanics (npc corp + chat channel or move to someplace not near a trade hub, or get out of high sec, or fight back, or hire mercs etc. etc.) to alleviate his problem, no, it's STRAIGHT TO THE FORUMS he goes.
-Gets told by multiple people that he is doing it wrong, and he is wrong for wanting expansive changes to a game mechanic he could have countered himself in any number of whys.
-Starts huffing and puffing about how people are talking to him like he is stupid (while steadfastly refusing to understand that the stupid way he's done things here is the catalyst for the response he is getting).
-Bonus: Enter the "White Knights of Co-Dependent Weakness" who always show up anytime anyone (but especially anyone in CODE or GOONs or any null sec alliance) explains to anyone else that they are grown ass people who should be ashamed of the fact that they let a video game make them cry.
It's like they said in Battlestar Galactica. This has all happened before, and it will happen again. |
Percy Cuscaden
Easy Company
30
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Posted - 2017.05.02 19:46:28 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:I can't even remember now how many times we've seen the same thread.
-Person is so casual they generally don't even play EVE has a problem with something and runs to the forum DEMANDING changes.
-Doesn't even try to use the already existing game mechanics (npc corp + chat channel or move to someplace not near a trade hub, or get out of high sec, or fight back, or hire mercs etc. etc.) to alleviate his problem, no, it's STRAIGHT TO THE FORUMS he goes.
-Gets told by multiple people that he is doing it wrong, and he is wrong for wanting expansive changes to a game mechanic he could have countered himself in any number of whys.
-Starts huffing and puffing about how people are talking to him like he is stupid (while steadfastly refusing to understand that the stupid way he's done things here is the catalyst for the response he is getting).
-Bonus: Enter the "White Knights of Co-Dependent Weakness" who always show up anytime anyone (but especially anyone in CODE or GOONs or any null sec alliance) explains to anyone else that they are grown ass people who should be ashamed of the fact that they let a video game make them cry.
It's like they said in Battlestar Galactica. This has all happened before, and it will happen again.
I have not DEMANDED anything.
The forums are a valid forum for discussing the game. I am sorry some of us bring up issues which you find upsetting.
Fine, I am doing it wrong. Thanks for all the hints.
I have not huffed and puffed, I have asked why the need for the insults and labelling. I still do not understand why you are all getting so excited about a discussion in the forum which has no bearing on any change which is actually going to lead to implementation at this point.
Thank for calling my game play choice stupid. Its a game. Get over yourself. I am really pleased for you that you have found the ultimate true path to game efficiency in Eve Online. We cannot be all so blessed. Thank god there are players like you whose glory we can bask in.
Bonus : More insults and labels to other players who dare to take a different stance.
I am not crying. I may saddened by the lack of quality discourse taking place about this issue, but no tears.
Drama and fun so far!
To quote you, "This has all happened before, and it will happen again." Yes, quite right. Any time any one so much as suggests a different play style *might* be acceptable in the game the normal suspects appear to tell them they are whiners and stupid players for questioning an existing mechanic.
My position may be an extreme minority position, which will never be implemented. Fine. But why all the insults and labels? We are all gamers in a game together. We all want it to be a success for many many more years and to build on the 14 years the game has given us gaming entertainment. |
Jenn aSide
shinigami miners ChaosTheory.
15765
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Posted - 2017.05.02 19:55:25 -
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Percy Cuscaden wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:I can't even remember now how many times we've seen the same thread.
-Person is so casual they generally don't even play EVE has a problem with something and runs to the forum DEMANDING changes.
-Doesn't even try to use the already existing game mechanics (npc corp + chat channel or move to someplace not near a trade hub, or get out of high sec, or fight back, or hire mercs etc. etc.) to alleviate his problem, no, it's STRAIGHT TO THE FORUMS he goes.
-Gets told by multiple people that he is doing it wrong, and he is wrong for wanting expansive changes to a game mechanic he could have countered himself in any number of whys.
-Starts huffing and puffing about how people are talking to him like he is stupid (while steadfastly refusing to understand that the stupid way he's done things here is the catalyst for the response he is getting).
-Bonus: Enter the "White Knights of Co-Dependent Weakness" who always show up anytime anyone (but especially anyone in CODE or GOONs or any null sec alliance) explains to anyone else that they are grown ass people who should be ashamed of the fact that they let a video game make them cry.
It's like they said in Battlestar Galactica. This has all happened before, and it will happen again. I have not DEMANDED anything. The forums are a valid forum for discussing the game. I am sorry some of us bring up issues which you find upsetting. Fine, I am doing it wrong. Thanks for all the hints. I have not huffed and puffed, I have asked why the need for the insults and labelling. I still do not understand why you are all getting so excited about a discussion in the forum which has no bearing on any change which is actually going to lead to implementation at this point. Thank for calling my game play choice stupid. Its a game. Get over yourself. I am really pleased for you that you have found the ultimate true path to game efficiency in Eve Online. We cannot be all so blessed. Thank god there are players like you whose glory we can bask in. Bonus : More insults and labels to other players who dare to take a different stance. I am not crying. I may saddened by the lack of quality discourse taking place about this issue, but no tears. Drama and fun so far! To quote you, "This has all happened before, and it will happen again." Yes, quite right. Any time any one so much as suggests a different play style *might* be acceptable in the game the normal suspects appear to tell them they are whiners and stupid players for questioning an existing mechanic. My position may be an extreme minority position, which will never be implemented. Fine. But why all the insults and labels? We are all gamers in a game together. We all want it to be a success for many many more years and to build on the 14 years the game has given us gaming entertainment.
Thank you for proving my point. I should have added:
-When people demonstrate to him what he is saying is stupid, he will suddenly describe what he is doing as a "play style" and accuse everyone else of not liking his "play style", even though most of the people replying to him don't even play the game the same way as everyone else does. He won't be able to grap the idea that he' is is own problem and that "whining on the forums about something he already has the tools to overcome" is not a "play style".
And
-Will then act all mystified at the response he's getting because he can't understand that people have done the same kind of begging and crying he's doing for as much as 14 years. |
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Aaron
Eternal Frontier
635
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Posted - 2017.05.02 20:15:51 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Percy Cuscaden wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote: Instead you chose to whine for a change of game mechanics in your favour. You choose to label anyone who questions anything which might affect your play style as a whiner. Don't bother replying to their accusations or remarks, they whine the loudest because they're the most risk adverse players in the game. If they were actual PvP'ers, they'd be taking Sov in Null Sec. Check their KB record, they only attack the weakest ships in the game. DMC Tough words from someone who is even afraid to join a corp.
I'd say he is smart for not joining a corp and remaining NPC. it gives him a very different perspective from yours. I'm sure DMC has lots of tactics that people would do well to try. There's many ways one can choose to play this game no way is right and no way is wrong, it's all about accepting the consequence of your chosen play style.
Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
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Percy Cuscaden
Easy Company
32
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Posted - 2017.05.02 20:38:09 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:
Thank you for proving my point. I should have added:
-When people demonstrate to him what he is saying is stupid, he will suddenly describe what he is doing as a "play style" and accuse everyone else of not liking his "play style", even though most of the people replying to him don't even play the game the same way as everyone else does. He won't be able to grap the idea that he' is is own problem and that "whining on the forums about something he already has the tools to overcome" is not a "play style".
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-Will then act all mystified at the response he's getting because he can't understand that people have done the same kind of begging and crying he's doing for as much as 14 years.
Well keep on drinking the vitriol. I-Śll put you down as a not interested in any changes to the war dec mechanic. Thanks for your delightful and insightful views on this topic.
If people are still going on about after 14 years maybe something should be done to improve the system. Or not. But if people have carried on doing that for 14 years, then you really should prepare yourself for the fact that they will keep on doing it for the lifetime of the game. And since this issue appears to trigger you, you might be best recommended to avoid the issue altogether and engage in something productive beyond casting aspersions and throwing insults at other players who have done nothing to you.
Good day to you sir.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
62141
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Posted - 2017.05.02 20:42:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH .............................
-Bonus: Enter the "White Knights of Co-Dependent Weakness" who always show up anytime anyone (but especially anyone in CODE or GOONs or any null sec alliance) explains to anyone else that they are grown ass people who should be ashamed of the fact that they let a video game make them cry.
And now a spiteful little pleb rushes in with even more venomous contemptible remarks, constantly throwing a temper tantrum in every single thread like a spoiled little brat with hurt feelings.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Nicolai Serkanner
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
674
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Posted - 2017.05.02 22:05:10 -
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Aaron wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Percy Cuscaden wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote: Instead you chose to whine for a change of game mechanics in your favour. You choose to label anyone who questions anything which might affect your play style as a whiner. Don't bother replying to their accusations or remarks, they whine the loudest because they're the most risk adverse players in the game. If they were actual PvP'ers, they'd be taking Sov in Null Sec. Check their KB record, they only attack the weakest ships in the game. DMC Tough words from someone who is even afraid to join a corp. I'd say he is smart for not joining a corp and remaining NPC. it gives him a very different perspective from yours. I'm sure DMC has lots of tactics that people would do well to try. There's many ways one can choose to play this game no way is right and no way is wrong, it's all about accepting the consequence of your chosen play style.
Does that include AFK mining and Auto-piloting?
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Nicolai Serkanner
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
674
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Posted - 2017.05.02 22:06:11 -
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Percy Cuscaden wrote:
Good day to you sir.
Jenn is a Lady
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
62153
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Posted - 2017.05.02 22:30:08 -
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Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Aaron wrote: I'd say he is smart for not joining a corp and remaining NPC. it gives him a very different perspective from yours. I'm sure DMC has lots of tactics that people would do well to try. There's many ways one can choose to play this game no way is right and no way is wrong, it's all about accepting the consequence of your chosen play style.
Does that include AFK mining and Auto-piloting?
Man, they were really scraping the bottom of the barrel when they picked you.
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Percy Cuscaden wrote:
Good day to you sir.
Jenn is a Lady And if you believe that you're an even bigger fool than what you sound like.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Teckos Pech
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
6445
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Posted - 2017.05.02 23:08:10 -
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Cern Audeles wrote:Hi, I love this game but for one thing. The wars. I am in a corp, it's new few veterans we mine explore do missions, but we keep having wars declared against us. They want paying up to a billion ISK to cancelled the wars, we lost half a bill in ships today. So, I am downgrading to alpha, play casual, I love this game, but, i get a ship nice then get jumped by 4 ppl at one and destroyed, its not fun and even with insurance, a loss
What...war decs are largely voluntary. If you don't want to fight leave a alt holding the corp and everyone else drops to NPC corps and play that way until the war dec is over. Create in game chat channels so you can all stay together.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
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Algathas
Wraithguard. The Wraithguard.
77
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Posted - 2017.05.02 23:12:46 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Cern Audeles wrote:Hi, I love this game but for one thing. The wars. I am in a corp, it's new few veterans we mine explore do missions, but we keep having wars declared against us. They want paying up to a billion ISK to cancelled the wars, we lost half a bill in ships today. So, I am downgrading to alpha, play casual, I love this game, but, i get a ship nice then get jumped by 4 ppl at one and destroyed, its not fun and even with insurance, a loss What...war decs are largely voluntary. If you don't want to fight leave a alt holding the corp and everyone else drops to NPC corps and play that way until the war dec is over. Create in game chat channels so you can all stay together.
Another option too is that you can leave highsec. Most people who wardec generally won't come too far from trade hubs and rarely (if ever) leave highsec. Once you are free of highsec you can laugh at wardeccers as they waste their money. |
Teckos Pech
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
6445
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Posted - 2017.05.02 23:26:15 -
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There is alot of stupid in that thread.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
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Teckos Pech
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
6445
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Posted - 2017.05.02 23:30:41 -
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Percy Cuscaden wrote:Lothros Andastar wrote: Sorry bub, but CCP stats prove you wrong on that.
Which bit? i. I think the game must lose a lot of casual players who cannot get over the brutal play style ii. The game is pretty healthy right now iii. a) it is certainly not the case that it is dying or b) but I think it could do better
New players (< 15 days) killed illegally (ganked) or legally (war dec, duel) stay longer than those who are not killed at all.
About 1% of new players (<15 days) are ganked. 14% are killed legally, 85% are not killed at all in their first 15 days.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
47689
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Posted - 2017.05.02 23:35:07 -
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Percy Cuscaden wrote:...I still do not understand why you are all getting so excited about a discussion in the forum which has no bearing on any change which is actually going to lead to implementation at this point.
I am not crying. I may saddened by the lack of quality discourse taking place about this issue, but no tears... Anyone who spends a fair bit time on the forum sees the same threads over and over and over again, no matter which side of an issue it is discussing.
After the first few times of giving thoughtful, well intended responses that just get shot down by other people, why bother anymore?
If an OP can't search the forum first, see an existing thread and add to it, or ask for it to be opened to add to it, why should anyone, already fatigued by the same stuff yet again, bother to respond in the way the OP hopes? It's all just going to be shot down anyway.
It's the way of the forum. Lots of us like to be here regularly, but it's rare that a thread comes along that hasn't already been argued to death umpteen times.
The umpteenth + 1 time isn't going to be any different.
That's not to say don't post. Post away all you like (and I hope people always post here). Just don't be surprised by the spread of different replies. Each person is just as entitled to their point of view and way of expressing it, as you are. |
Teckos Pech
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
6445
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Posted - 2017.05.02 23:48:03 -
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Percy Cuscaden wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Becuase this is a game about blowing up spaceships and you quite literally come to the forums and whine how you refuse to play it and would rather have it changed because you don't like it.
It seams you have no problem with the sandbox as long as it suits you and as long as you can get ISK from the market where the very demand you profit from is fueled by conflict. But if you become target of that conflict you think you should be able to completely isolate yourself and your friends, because "it's not what you want" while still being able to profit.
I can flip that one right back at you, right now, code loses 1% to every 99% they destroy. Any attempt to address that issue in terms of risk vs. reward is met by derision by your good selves. Any attempt to discuss that or address that issue is met by the same insults and belittling I am seeing.
No, the problem is you do not understand how risk works in the game. Risk is a function of player action. That is, any risk you face is due to your actions. If you do something foolish or imprudent your risk goes up. That you obtain the bad state associated with that risk is due to other players taking advantage of your imprudence. The game was designed this way on purpose.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
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Jenn aSide
shinigami miners ChaosTheory.
15765
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Posted - 2017.05.03 00:56:27 -
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Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Percy Cuscaden wrote:
Good day to you sir.
Jenn is a Lady
Jen is not a lady lol. It's just a picture. |
Jenn aSide
shinigami miners ChaosTheory.
15765
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Posted - 2017.05.03 01:11:34 -
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Percy Cuscaden wrote:
Well keep on drinking the vitriol. I-Śll put you down as a not interested in any changes to the war dec mechanic. Thanks for your delightful and insightful views on this topic.
You can "put down" anything you like, but it doesn't change the fact of what you are doing here. I honestly don't give a flip about what CCP does with war decs or anything to do with that massive cesspit called high sec. I simply find it annoying that grown people have such a hard time with simple things. I haven't failed to notice how the majority of people who whine and can't do anything for themselves also call high security space home in this game.
Quote: If people are still going on about after 14 years maybesomething should be done to improve the system. Or not. But if people have carried on doing that for 14 years, then you really should prepare yourself for the fact that they will keep on doing it for the lifetime of the game. And since this issue appears to trigger you, you might be best recommended to avoid the issue altogether and engage in something productive beyond casting aspersions and throwing insults at other players who have done nothing to you.
Good day to you sir.
People have been complain about a lot for the last 14 years while also proclaiming that EVE is dying (and the only way to save it is of course to change the game in a way that oddly and suspiciously enough aligns with their specific complaints about the game). People being to weak and mentally soft to figure out their problems isn't a CCP issue, it's a personal one.
Which brings me to the point of why I highlighted your words above. CCP DID do something about war decs, several times actually. You want to know the result?
The result is the current status quo ie its the same as it always was (making CCPs efforts to change war decs in the pass turn out to be wasted time, money and DEV work). You want to know why that is? It's because of the Constant, the common denominator that ALWAYS thwarts changes CCP or any other group of developers make.
Humans.
No matter what you do, humans are going to find a way to do what they want. No in game mechanic change is going to stop people from finding a way to screw with hapeless folk like you Percy. Because no mechanic change is going to make you realize that the problem isn't the game, it's you (or more specifically, it's the flaws in the way you think about things that is n open invitation to the kinds of people who war dec to come in and make you upset).
So while you go on and on about the mechanics, those of us who know what's really going on will keep telling you that you are wrong, you have the tools to win out against these people, folks do it all the time which is why you will notice that sometimes war deccers are frustrated by lack of targets. Those people who frustrate them have the proper mentality to thumb their noses at the deccers and keep playing their game they want....
....And all without typing one word on this forum or any other.
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Kaeden 3142
State Protectorate Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2017.05.03 03:46:50 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Percy Cuscaden wrote:...I still do not understand why you are all getting so excited about a discussion in the forum which has no bearing on any change which is actually going to lead to implementation at this point.
I am not crying. I may saddened by the lack of quality discourse taking place about this issue, but no tears... Anyone who spends a fair bit time on the forum sees the same threads over and over and over again, no matter which side of an issue it is discussing. After the first few times of giving thoughtful, well intended responses that just get shot down by other people, why bother anymore? If an OP can't search the forum first, see an existing thread and add to it, or ask for it to be opened to add to it, why should anyone, already fatigued by the same stuff yet again, bother to respond in the way the OP hopes? It's all just going to be shot down anyway. It's the way of the forum. Lots of us like to be here regularly, but it's rare that a thread comes along that hasn't already been argued to death umpteen times. The umpteenth + 1 time isn't going to be any different. Edit: After reading back through a few pages, yeah there are plenty of tears.
Forums are about opinions written right or wrong by someone else's opinion. The threads usually are closed before you could add to them.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
3994
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Posted - 2017.05.03 06:44:26 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote: Tough words from someone who is even afraid to join a corp.
Heh, your constant vile blusterous posturing indicates you're just compensating for lack of RL-Peen. DMC I especially like how you always rush in your alts to like your own posts if you feel threatened. Did it hurt so much to hear the truth?
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
47693
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Posted - 2017.05.03 06:58:06 -
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Kaeden 3142 wrote:Forums are about opinions written right or wrong by someone else's opinion. The threads usually are closed before you could add to them.
A couple of years ago I would agree with you on the closing of threads. Not so much anymore.
This thread, which would have been closed half way down page 1 a couple of years ago is well into Page 5 now. It's the same for many threads now.
The reputation of moderation here was well earned, but the practice hasn't been anywhere near as harsh for a long time.
As to opinions, I agree, which is why complaining about how others post is a lot of the time regarded as crying. |
Coralas
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.05.03 08:11:58 -
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Percy Cuscaden wrote:
I can flip that one right back at you, right now, code loses 1% to every 99% they destroy. Any attempt to address that issue in terms of risk vs. reward is met by derision by your good selves. Any attempt to discuss that or address that issue is met by the same insults and belittling I am seeing.
They rarely bother destroying things that aren't semi afk, badly tanked and overloaded. All of which are the real contributors to the ratio.
If you go even further, you have to wonder why one freighter is carrying a random load of goods one way through the choke, and more or less the same load is going the other way in another one. ie people keep freighting things that don't change value when they do, which is pure risk with no reward.
When I use my freighter it very rarely goes through a choke, and if it does, it purely has a low value bulk load of the thing that _can't_ be got regionally for a reasonable price. It doesn't have expensive blueprints, piles of salvage or other things that easily fit into a cloak warper.
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Sorry, I will never agree that allowing a huge alliance to war dec a small 2 player corp is "fun". You can paint that anyway you want, but it simply is not. It just means I dock up for the week with that character.
Set the dec corp to -10, go run combat exploration for a week in a region you've never lived in before. You can do that with a weeks training in cruisers. Exploration naturally leads you to local chats with few people in them even in highsec (so the deccers stand out), and moving around perpetually invalidates locations from agents - and moving around through lowpop regions tells you when a neutral is tracking you too. A t1 cruiser is perfectly acceptable for highsec exploration, and honestly, you are that poor you can't afford to lose a 30m fitted cruiser ?
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"Please come back so that we can all die together against insurmountable odds in a completely unbalanced fight." - Sadly, I do not see that one working.
Except that you can wait around afk cloaked all day in the systems that the deccers use because they are also predictable, and after a while, YOU become annoying. You'll constrain actions against other decs that they are running simaltaneously, and you may spot an opportunity to engage. ie you can be background annoying the exact way the dec is background annoying to you.
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Yes, for an experienced PvP corp all the above is true. Neither I nor my friend are experienced PvPers. We do not pretend to be.
How does one get experience ?
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Anything which goes against your doctrine view of the game is classified as whining. I received that message loud and clear.
it is a massively multiplayer pvp game. You _have_ to acknowledge the existence of others in your sandbox. The whole value structure of the things you do in highsec, particularly the things you buy that you can't cause to drop yourself is set by the pvp nature of the game.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.05.03 08:18:47 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:I especially like how you always rush in your alts to like your own posts if you feel threatened. Did it hurt so much to hear the truth? You couldn't be more wrong even if you tried. Unfortunately I don't have enough alts to match the numbers.
But hey, thanks for telling me how you meta-game the forums.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
3995
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Posted - 2017.05.03 08:48:04 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:I especially like how you always rush in your alts to like your own posts if you feel threatened. Did it hurt so much to hear the truth? You couldn't be more wrong even if you tried. Unfortunately I don't have enough alts to match the numbers. But hey, thanks for telling me how you meta-game the forums. I just think it is quite pathetic to like your own posts because you think that reinforces your weak point. Don't bother to lie about it it's quite obvious. Not sure why you think this has something to do with meta-gaming.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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