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Alex rositano
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2017.05.02 13:32:08 -
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Intel-«CoreGäói7 Processor 4510U(2.0GHz- 3.1GHz(Dual Core) 1600MHzMC, 4MBL3 cache) Windows 8.1 (64bit) 15.6" Widescreen HD LED Backlit Display (1366 x768) 4GBDDR3L (1600Mhz)RAM 750GB(5400rpm) SATA Intel-« HD Graphics 4400 No optical disk drive HD Microphone &Headphone ports Premium harman/kardon-« speakers HD Webcam/Stereo Microphone ClickPad with Gesture Battery, AC Adapter & Power Cable included
Would this run eve decently or would this one F556UV-XO019T 8GB RAM ProcessorIntel-« 6th Gen CoreGäó i5 6200U (2.3~2.8Ghz)Operating SystemWindows 10 home (64-bit)Memory8GB RAM DDR4 2133Display15.6" LED HD (1366 x 768)GraphicNVIDIA-« GeForce-« 920MX with 2GB VRAM HDD & Optical Drive1TB HDD, DVD R-W Networking Wifi Integrated 802.11 b/g/n and Bluetooth V4.0 Interface 1 x COMBO audio jack 1 x VGA port/Mini D-sub 15-pin for external monitor 1 x USB 3.0 + 1 x USB 3.1 Type C port(s) 1 x USB 2.0 port(s) 1 x RJ45 LAN Jack for LAN insert 1 x HDMI 1 x SD card reader Multimedia
Colour
Build-in Speakers and Mic
Webcam Silver & Grey
Optical DriveSuper Multi DVD Power 37 Whrs Polymer Battery Dimensions 38.2 x 25.6 x 2.58 cm (WxDxH) Weight 2.3kg with battery Manufacturer Warranty
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat Snuffed Out
4089
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Posted - 2017.05.02 13:39:15 -
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you really want something with a dedicated graphics card
Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel
Calm down miner.
As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they
would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
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Alasdan Helminthauge
HC - Hog Ballz Aporkalypse Now
140
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Posted - 2017.05.02 13:42:02 -
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I play eve with a laptop with a 1366x768 screen. And TBH, it's really a pain to get all those stuff on your screen at 100% UI scale. I managed to, but if I get 12 locks, I wont be able to see the space at all. And its also a pain trying to refit in space. |
Alexei Stryker
Steiners Erben Evictus.
95
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Posted - 2017.05.02 13:55:49 -
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I have the Surface Book Performance Base... It has a i7 2.6GHz Processor and a dedicated; rather outdated; Nvidia GeForce GTX 965M graphics... It can run multiple Eve instances on 3000x2000 resolution. The internal Intel Graphics is the HD Graphics 520 which is also capable of running Eve on a lower resolution (And fewer effects).
Ideas:
Right click context menu on char -> custom entries
Minimize the docking game
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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
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Posted - 2017.05.02 17:33:22 -
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There is a huge difference between min and max graphic settings in EVE. EVE with minimum settings @ 720p runs on a cheap office laptop, EVE with max settings @ 1080p requires a expensive gaming laptop.
I wouldnt use a laptop for gaming TBH, desktop computers give you a lot more bang for the buck and you can use multiple monitors which is very useful when playing EVE. |
Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
291
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Posted - 2017.05.02 18:42:12 -
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Correct answer is desktop with at least 3 monitors. Anything else is going to be cramped as **** even if it technically can run EVE (potato mode is not very demanding except in fleet fights). |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat Snuffed Out
4089
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Posted - 2017.05.02 19:24:07 -
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Algarion Getz wrote:There is a huge difference between min and max graphic settings in EVE. EVE with minimum settings @ 720p runs on a cheap office laptop, EVE with max settings @ 1080p requires a expensive gaming laptop.
I wouldnt use a laptop for gaming TBH, desktop computers give you a lot more bang for the buck and you can use multiple monitors which is very useful when playing EVE.
My 17" laptop is connected to a 24" monitor and can also support another external monitor, that's 3 screens, I can carry it around to work or friends house, and tbh when I priced up a desktop which needs an i7 it was coming in more expensive than my laptop cost me, desktops are great don't get me wrong but laptops are also damn good and people do have reasons to pick them over desktops
Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel
Calm down miner.
As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they
would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8391
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Posted - 2017.05.02 19:57:00 -
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I played on a Lenovo W520 for years without so much as one hang/freeze or hiccup. FPS was not the best of course and fully cranked up graphics were totally out of the question.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
10914
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Posted - 2017.05.03 01:06:39 -
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I use a laptop for adding skills to the queue. I use a real computer for doing anything that involves undocking a ship.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1430
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Posted - 2017.05.03 01:26:45 -
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At the very least get a laptop with a Nvidia 960M GPU instead of the 920M(X) and get one with an SSD since that 5400 RPM HDD will be slow AF.
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
3971
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Posted - 2017.05.03 01:32:59 -
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Something like the Acer Aspire works well, As Yang said the 960M card. If you really have money to burn you can go for the 10xx range of cards in some of the latest laptops also.
main problem you will have with a laptop is screen real estate, if you always dock to secondary monitors for fleet fights or anything that won't be an issue, but really you want at least two monitors if not three for 'hardcore' EVE gaming. I say this as a one display laptop player atm. Don't even own a desktop any more. |
Pix Severus
Empty You
6332
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Posted - 2017.05.03 02:20:23 -
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If you must use a laptop, go for the one without Windows 10: Spyware Edition.
MTU Hunter: Latest Entry - May 03 2017 - MTU Autopsy
MTU Hunting 101: Comprehensive Guide
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Kuromiko
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2017.05.03 03:03:21 -
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Get something with bigger screen (or external) and, although eve is not an FPS game, I can't imagine it being played with a touchpad (awkward). So get a mouse too.
Any of the today sold laptops will do since they all got an i7 with integrated graphics (so at least medium quality works). For max settings and 16x anti-aliasing look for a box with dedicated gpu (good luck finding one that's not "gaming edgy" and RGB-everywhere thou).
64bit win 7 and wait till the russians make it DX 12 compatible, or 8.1 developers edition or whatever it's called. |
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
1184
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Posted - 2017.05.03 03:03:28 -
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OP skip first one without dedicated graphic it will be bare minimum to play second thing is those monitors resolutions are bad for any game look on the market for laptop w 1080p monitor.i wouldn't go below 17" (for gaming)but you might want it more compact than that due to reasons.
Quote:My 17" laptop is connected to a 24" monitor and can also support another external monitor, that's 3 screens, I can carry it around to work or friends house, and tbh when I priced up a desktop which needs an i7 it was coming in more expensive than my laptop cost me, desktops are great don't get me wrong but laptops are also damn good and people do have reasons to pick them over desktops
Agreed i have both and laptop i own for years now saved me and provided amazing gaming times when i was living outside my life traveling all over it is a gaming kind it have separate fans for GPU and CPU with separate cooling(copper) blocks.
It require like gaming desktop thermal paste change every year or so on both CPU / GPU due to more extreme heat generation (generally speaking),super mobile from being in a backpack to loading eve is matter of seconds(SSD) and with dual DP ports and HDMI port all 4k able it can have 3 external monitors 4 in total that is in my book media power house.
While my life changed enough for it to serve not much more than my Alpha clone driver my GF use it to rock resident evil on ultra and tittles like fallout 4 on near max settings for 1400USD 4 years ago it certainly payed it self of and still provide what it was built for.
Quote:There is a huge difference between min and max graphic settings in EVE. EVE with minimum settings @ 720p runs on a cheap office laptop, EVE with max settings @ 1080p requires a expensive gaming laptop
No need to brake your budget over eve this is 3 generation old mid range GPU that floors eve at max settings without any issue and if you generally look for less than max setting you can go even cheaper as long as you don't go integrated generally you can get decent settings / framerates.
You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear
Because >>I is too hard
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Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
298
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Posted - 2017.05.03 05:54:58 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Algarion Getz wrote:There is a huge difference between min and max graphic settings in EVE. EVE with minimum settings @ 720p runs on a cheap office laptop, EVE with max settings @ 1080p requires a expensive gaming laptop.
I wouldnt use a laptop for gaming TBH, desktop computers give you a lot more bang for the buck and you can use multiple monitors which is very useful when playing EVE. My 17" laptop is connected to a 24" monitor and can also support another external monitor, that's 3 screens, I can carry it around to work or friends house, and tbh when I priced up a desktop which needs an i7 it was coming in more expensive than my laptop cost me, desktops are great don't get me wrong but laptops are also damn good and people do have reasons to pick them over desktops
Not sure that 17" qualifies as laptop. Movable with a crane yes, but hardly something you carry around :p |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat Snuffed Out
4089
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Posted - 2017.05.03 08:51:52 -
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Axhind wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Algarion Getz wrote:There is a huge difference between min and max graphic settings in EVE. EVE with minimum settings @ 720p runs on a cheap office laptop, EVE with max settings @ 1080p requires a expensive gaming laptop.
I wouldnt use a laptop for gaming TBH, desktop computers give you a lot more bang for the buck and you can use multiple monitors which is very useful when playing EVE. My 17" laptop is connected to a 24" monitor and can also support another external monitor, that's 3 screens, I can carry it around to work or friends house, and tbh when I priced up a desktop which needs an i7 it was coming in more expensive than my laptop cost me, desktops are great don't get me wrong but laptops are also damn good and people do have reasons to pick them over desktops Not sure that 17" qualifies as laptop. Movable with a crane yes, but hardly something you carry around :p
you must have jelly arms if you think a 17" laptop is an inconvenience to carry around
Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel
Calm down miner.
As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they
would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
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Veine Miromme
Gallente Federation
108
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Posted - 2017.05.03 15:25:55 -
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Axhind wrote:Correct answer is desktop with at least 3 monitors. Anything else is going to be cramped as **** even if it technically can run EVE (potato mode is not very demanding except in fleet fights). Correct answer it is and I will finally get to see the center of the EVE Online display back when I do have 3 monitors setup and running. I do have 3 monitors now, but only 2 when I take out the laptop monitor which won't count when I run the 2 other monitors on a desktop. I was also offered a video with 2 SVGA connectors. I have a video card with 1 and only 1 SVGA connector at this time. It also has a DVI connector but I don't know how that would work yet, or what it does require to work.
I also feel that I don't know enough about DVI (Digital Video Interface or something) even though I don't think my monitors are DVI compatible yet, and I don't know if they are compatible yet either.
I use 2 monitors now, and there are sometimes that I would need more space to run my information windows and organize them on screen without limiting my vision of the space around me. Most of it fits on 2 screens however, and I could not run for instance, the Log and Messages windows as well as the Overview, People and Places, chat window and a few others. Even with 2 windows, the Overview takes so much space that I have top place the Probe Scan result under it, with the icons on the left, so that I can see both information simultaneously without having to switch back and forth.
Algarion Getz wrote:There is a huge difference between min and max graphic settings in EVE. EVE with minimum settings @ 720p runs on a cheap office laptop, EVE with max settings @ 1080p requires a expensive gaming laptop.
I wouldnt use a laptop for gaming TBH, desktop computers give you a lot more bang for the buck and you can use multiple monitors which is very useful when playing EVE. Yeah, my laptop runs a 19 inch monitor and the integrated laptop monitor which is some 14 inches or so. Even though the sizes are different, it adjusts the EVE program to fit both screens. I put the laptop on a pile of newspapers, and employment newspapers, so that it fits the center of the 19 inch monitor. It is also not borderless, so the mouse cursor goes over the border everytime something is centered, like, for instance, the 'Esc' key Settings functions.
My settings are not 720p or 1080p. The Display is set to Windowed mode as I find it lets me switch to the chrome browser page or other functions faster. The Window Size is 2457x726 (in ultra wide mode). The UI Scaling is 90%. There are 2 more settings in this portion.
I also rather have a cheap system which works than to have an expensive system which doesn't work. I'm sure that I am more scientifically inclined for that.
Lan Wang wrote:you must have jelly arms if you think a 17" laptop is an inconvenience to carry around idk, I just got a masonry job offer asking me to lift 100 lbs buckets of cement up a scaffolding to make chimneys, even though I may not be able to do it , as I already tried that back in 1986 and I know how hard it is...
Both laptops the OP mentioned may run EVE , and we are also in the month of May.
Unfortunately, EVE is not designed to run on laptops (YET, and that is a big YET, or at least not officially so yet), and as such you have to do the testing yourself, or use some of the test results from others, hoping the quality control descriptions meet your understanding needs or threshold if any.
I can list my laptop , which laptop does run EVE and which laptop can also posts on the forums, however, it has a broken keyboard so I use a secondary keyboard and mouse for control. I was told the mouse was having issue, and that it was a known bug, but that is not 50% of the problem tbh. It is also not an i5 and runs on an Intel Core 2 Duo CPU 2 2.26GHz. Installed memory (RAM): 4.00 GB (maximum capacity amount for that system I believe) (3.87 usable). (It often runs at 96% 98% of physical memory capacity when it stalls and slow down to above annoying or comfortable speeds.)
The Display adapter information from the Device Manager is - Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family
which can be interpreted as: in the System devices - Mobile Intel 4 Series Chipset Processor to DRAM Controller - 2A40
+ - Intel 82801 PCI Bridge - 2448 - Intel ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 2940 - Intel ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 2 - 2942 - Intel ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 3 - 2944 - Intel ICH9M LPC Interface Controller - 2919
I do however have a new desktop which I want to have more security for before running it though. The laptop has had more than its fair share of abuse.
Ship Type : Out of pod (for now)
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Lan Wang
Knights of the posing meat Snuffed Out
4090
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Posted - 2017.05.03 15:51:11 -
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eve is not designed to run on laptops wut?
Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel
Calm down miner.
As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they
would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
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Veine Miromme
Gallente Federation
108
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Posted - 2017.05.03 16:00:52 -
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Lan Wang wrote:eve is not designed to run on laptops wut? EVE is designed to run on desktop PCs with desktop Personal Computer specifications including the video card system.
HELPDESK ARTICLE EVE Online Technical Support Download, Installation & Updates
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS Updated April 14, 2017 10:51
Common
All hardware regardless of platform must support the following minimum requirements:
CPU that supports SSE2 GPU with 256 MB VRAM or more that supports Shader Model 3 that supports DirectX 9.0c Drivers: DirectX 9.0c (included) Audio that is Direct Sound compatible and supports SSE HD: 20 GB free space (or more) Network: ADSL connection (or faster) DVD-ROM: 2x-speed DVD reader (for boxed editions only)
The minimum screen resolution for the EVE Online Client is 1024x768. For optimum performance always use the latest available drivers for all hardware, including in particular audio and video hardware.
The expectation for the Minimum System Requirements is that all game features can be used on low-end hardware that still meets those requirements. All graphics settings are set to their lowest values. The resolution is set to 1024x768.
The expectation for the Recommended System Requirements is that there is a smooth and visually enjoyable experience across all game features. All graphics settings can be set to their highest values. The resolution should not exceed 1920x1200, though higher resolutions can be used with lower settings.
Please note that when in large-scale situations, such as fleet fights, it is encouraged to drop all graphics settings to their lowest value.
(+ I do have a 2 GB VRAM video card integrated in the laptop however, I can't find that exact data location yet as of my last verification.)
Windows
Minimum System Requirements:
OS: Windows 7 / 8.1 / 10 CPU: Intel Dual Core @ 2.0 GHz, AMD Dual Core @ 2.0 GHz RAM: 2 GB Video: AMD Radeon 2600 XT or NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS
Recommended System Configuration:
OS: Windows 7 / 8.1 / 10 CPU: Intel i7 Series or AMD X4 @ 2.0 GHz or greater RAM: 4 GB or higher Video: AMD Radeon 6790 or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 or better with at least 1 GB VRAM
Mac
Minimum System Requirements:
OS: Mac OS X 10.9 / 10.10 / 10.11 CPU: Intel Dual Core @ 2.0 GHz RAM: 2 GB Video: NVIDIA GeForce 320m, Intel HD 3000
Recommended System Configuration:
OS: Mac OS X 10.9 / 10.10 / 10.11 CPU: Intel i7 Series @ 3.0 GHz or greater RAM: 8 GB or higher Video: NVIDIA GeForce 675mx or better with at least 1 GB VRAM
The main problem with the laptop is that there are no specific video cards that are compatible with the desktop cards. Some laptop video cards do run EVE Online, while others may have problems or may not even run EVE at all. The laptop processor rates are also different since the architecture is more miniature and costs a lot more to manufacture. It was suggested that EVE Online did run on a BestBuy Insignia tablet although I have never verified this.
Ship Type : Out of pod (for now)
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Veine Miromme
Gallente Federation
108
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Posted - 2017.05.03 16:48:25 -
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Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Performance Information and Tools\
Processor: - Calculations per second 5.9 Memory (RAM): - Memory operations per second 5.9 Graphics: - Desktop performance for Windows Aero 2.0 Gaming graphics: - 3D business and gaming graphics performance 3.0 Primary hard disk: - Disk data transfer rate 5.4
Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Performance Information and Tools\Advanced Tools
Performance issues-- / ! \ Drivers are interfering with Windows resuming from sleep mode. (View details.) / ! \ Startup programs are causing Windows to start slowly. (View details.) / ! \ Performance can be improved by changing visual settings. (View details.)
View advanced system details in System Information View details about the hardware and software components on your computer.
System Information System summary
Available Physical Memory 1.04 GB Total Virtual Memory 7.73 GB Available Virtual Memory 4.32 GB Page File Space 3.87 GB
Hardware Resources - Conflicts/Sharing - - I/O Port ... (2) - - IRQ21 (5) - - IRQ22 (2) - - IRQ23 (3) - - IRQ16 (2) (1 PCI and USB device sharing conflict, possibly causing video problem) - - IRQ18 (2) (same as above, but reversed, and with another video port, and another USB controller) - - Memory Address (similar as above, but with a Pci Bus and the Chipset Family) - - IRQ19 (4) - - Memory Address (similar as the Memory Address above, with the Pci Bus and the Trusted Platform Module 1.2)
Components - Display - - Adapter RAM 1.81 GB - - Driver c:\ ... \ igkmd54.sys , this file was already found to be suspicious and causes the driver conflicts against them to be updated. There are procedures to remove it, but there are no ways to verify if the system would function afterward, or what would happen to it exactly. My current solution will be to run another system first before attempting any of those suggestions since I will need a backup system to be able to do any processing for work first. The risk to have no operational system after the fix suggestion is too great to make taking the chance to find out worthwhile without another fully operational system first.
- - Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 60 hertz - - Bits/Pixel 32
Software Environment - System Drivers - - iastorv Intel RAID Controller Windows 7 , Type : Kernel Driver - - igfx , Type : Kernel Driver
Still no 2 GB VRAM integrated video card confirmation, it must be in my saved screenshots.
Ship Type : Out of pod (for now)
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Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
54
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Posted - 2017.05.03 20:43:05 -
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Get outa the way with your potatoes, here is what you need:
http://www.surfaceforums.net/attachments/small_fujitsu_lifebook_810u_laptop-jpg.7/ |
Cybertherion
Pneumatic Cabal
79
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Posted - 2017.05.04 04:37:27 -
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It's official. I now run EvE on my potato.
This is the first time I'm gonna do the trendy "take CCP to task" thing, they need to lower their "minimum system requirements" if they actually wanna get paid more. Some people can read (and even compute) and what they've listed is utter BS.
Mind you, I feel stupid writing this. Since I randomly looked at the forums 'bout three weeks ago I swore the vegetable I dug outta my backyard couldn't handle New Eden. I went from alpha back to my old omega in two days.
I was so wrong. Here CCP, take my money, and if you want more take my advice.
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ApexDynamo
Hazardous Wormhole Rebels
40
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Posted - 2017.05.04 17:29:30 -
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Downside to laptop to get a good gameing laptop for eve it will cost more then buy a desktop monitor keyboard mouse speakers will.
Get a desktop as they are much more realiable then laptops are, and don't overheat as much as laptops do, sure laptops you can take them anywhere but can do that with an Ipad as well altho, ipad cant run eve but it can run angry birds win win |
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