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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
3923
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Posted - 2017.05.26 16:50:40 -
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AEther Galatia wrote:Arrendis wrote:Graelyn wrote:When your enemy falls and screams "Now I'm STRONGER", then you've hit brainstem. Yup. Totally. Trust the platitudes, not the actual data, your Holiness. Wonder who made you write this? (quoted in case you edit it.)
Ironic use of a title is still use of a title. But also still ironic.
Especially when it's the wrong title.
(A cardinal is properly addressed as, "your Eminence," I think.) |
Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
987
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Posted - 2017.05.26 16:50:57 -
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Arrendis wrote:No, we've been farming the Blood Raiders. Like threshing grain. You don't 'battle' the grain. You're not 'at war' with the grain. You simply go out and mow it all down with the large industrial reaper-thresher and there is nothing the grain can do to stop it. Let us not go to far, they kill a lot of goons too.
As strength goes.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3957
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Posted - 2017.05.26 16:53:31 -
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Ayallah wrote:Let us not go to far, they kill a lot of goons too.
Industrial accidents happen. Can't help it if the idiots fall into the thresher. Compare the numbers, see if the 'a lot' really stacks up.
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AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
3
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Posted - 2017.05.26 16:53:36 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:AEther Galatia wrote:Arrendis wrote:Graelyn wrote:When your enemy falls and screams "Now I'm STRONGER", then you've hit brainstem. Yup. Totally. Trust the platitudes, not the actual data, your Holiness. Wonder who made you write this? (quoted in case you edit it.) Ironic use of a title is still use of a title. But also still ironic. Especially when it's the wrong title. (A cardinal is properly addressed as, "your Eminence," I think.)
Thanks. That is very wise of you and was my point but I did not say it directly. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3957
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Posted - 2017.05.26 16:55:38 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Ironic use of a title is still use of a title. But also still ironic.
Especially when it's the wrong title.
(A cardinal is properly addressed as, "your Eminence," I think.)
You know what I love about names? They're unique. They're singular. Oh, I don't mean 'Aria' or 'Arrendis'... I mean a name is the only thing you can take away from someone by not using it. Titles, especially the wrong ones... they're so generic. |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
2248
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Posted - 2017.05.26 16:57:46 -
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I always address Cardinal Graelyn as Cardinal Graelyn, following an agreement with him.
Since it bugged him when I addressed him as "Snookums".
Like, totally bugged him.
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
3
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Posted - 2017.05.26 16:58:27 -
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Arrendis wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote:Ironic use of a title is still use of a title. But also still ironic.
Especially when it's the wrong title.
(A cardinal is properly addressed as, "your Eminence," I think.) You know what I love about names? They're unique. They're singular. Oh, I don't mean 'Aria' or 'Arrendis'... I mean a name is the only thing you can take away from someone by not using it. Titles, especially the wrong ones... they're so generic.
Yup I'm with you. Just remember, even if your *intended* audience is not your spoken to audience, to the layman your spoken to audience is the one getting the praise and not your intended audience. |
Graelyn
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1095
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Posted - 2017.05.26 17:02:00 -
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Arrendis wrote:Yup. Totally. Trust the platitudes, not the actual data, your Holiness.
"We didn't want Pator anyways."
Try a spin that isn't older than I am.
Cardinal Graelyn
Imperial Liaison, I-RED
Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3957
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Posted - 2017.05.26 17:02:24 -
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AEther Galatia wrote: Yup I'm with you. Just remember, even if your *intended* audience is not your spoken to audience, to the layman your spoken to audience is the one getting the praise and not your intended audience.
Do you think I particularly care? |
Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1951
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Posted - 2017.05.26 17:03:58 -
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Not what she's arguing, is it Old Man? I'll be first in line to smack her upside the head when she tries that particular line, but when she's saying they've grown stronger than before that defeat, she's actually right. |
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AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
3
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Posted - 2017.05.26 17:05:20 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Not what she's arguing, is it Old Man? I'll be first in line to smack her upside the head when she tries that particular line, but when she's saying they've grown stronger than before that defeat, she's actually right.
Unfortunately, ends do not always justify means. |
Graelyn
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1095
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Posted - 2017.05.26 17:09:36 -
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Amarr is stronger since losing the Republic.
If I tried to spin the Rebellion as a 'great moment for Amarr', you would all (quite properly) think of me as a useless tit.
Cardinal Graelyn
Imperial Liaison, I-RED
Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1951
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Posted - 2017.05.26 17:13:01 -
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I do agree with you, just sayin' that she's still technically correct and you're not going to get a "Yeah, we got our **** pushed in" from any organization primarily founded on inflated egos, Grae. |
Graelyn
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1095
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Posted - 2017.05.26 17:14:32 -
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Well certainly no organization is EVE has ever been defeated. I just checked the forums.
Cardinal Graelyn
Imperial Liaison, I-RED
Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113
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Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1131
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Posted - 2017.05.26 17:15:59 -
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Arrendis wrote:Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Edit: Gosh, Arrendis. You're on slaver mind control drugs and won't even share!? So mean. Like you haven't been bogarting the good stuff your corp hooks you up with. We should get Samira and have a total drugged out hedonism night. It'll be like old times! Only, with drugs. And hedonism. And nobody trying to kill themselves or one another. Or tas-oh, who am I kidding, you'll still get me with the taser.
Lieutenant Kernher is a good and decent God-fearing woman and pilot. I doubt she would be interested.
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AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
5
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Posted - 2017.05.26 17:21:52 -
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Graelyn wrote:Amarr is stronger since losing the Republic.
If I tried to spin the Rebellion as a 'great moment for Amarr', you would all (quite properly) think of me as a useless tit.
Agreed. I have as much respect for the Amarr as I do for any of the factions. There's something to be said for happy slaves versus a struggling free populace. Nevetheless I believe in the Galllente mantra and ultimately I have to live somewhere and belong to some group. If Goons are justifying this as making them stronger, so be it. If they would rather toss the Blood Raiders aside than do business with them that is their own prerogative. As Arrendis said, the hive lives on (rougly quoted) and it will adapt, with or without the Blood Raiders. What happens going forward is yet to be seen. But again, the tipping point has been reached and weeding will be done. Whether Goon relations survive that weeding or not is yet to be seen. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3957
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Posted - 2017.05.26 17:25:34 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:I do agree with you, just sayin' that she's still technically correct and you're not going to get a "Yeah, we got our **** pushed in" from any organization primarily founded on inflated egos, Grae.
Yeah?
Graelyn wrote: "We didn't want Pator anyways."
Try a spin that isn't older than I am.
Hah. You will never hear, and have never heard, me say we didn't want that space. We wanted that space. We also weren't happy about losing that war. So... what? We should be all weepy and wailing and gnashing our teeth forever? We should be unable to coldly and rationally look at what happened and evaluate our current position relative to our previous position?
We're better off now than we were then. That's just the plain and simple truth.
Instead of 30,000 pilots spread across five regions, we've got that many in one. Instead of those pilots being spread through 9 different alliances, with all of the patchwork defensive complications that arise in Entosis work, 27,474 of them are in one alliance, with roughy another 6k in 4 others.
Our industrial output per monthGÇöeven without accurate reporting of excavator-based Rorqual industrial activity, exceeds every other region in New Eden except for some parts of the Caldari State, and outstrips any other two regions in null-sec combined.
Despite losing all of that space, we didn't actually lose our supercapital assets. Typically, this is where the 'oh, didn't want that space anyway' accusations get the loudest. Of course we wanted that space. We wanted our supercapital fleet more. Do you want your ship? Does wanting your ship mean you can't want your head? If you have to pick one to keep, and one to lose forever though, you're going to pick the one that lets you get more of the other, right? I mean, you're not going to decide 'hah! I have my ship, I don't need my head!'
I mean, I don't think you are. You believe in God and other crazy things though, so who knows?
So, yeah, we got our asses kicked. Yeah, it sucked. No, wasn't exactly cause for 40 years of wandering in the Great Wildlands or whatever. If the MBC had charged south after us, things could've been really, really bad for us. But they didn't. They made a lot of noise about destroying us, and grandiose claims about how we'd never be allowed to put more than 200 people in space again, and then they failed to seal the deal.
By not wasting our assets in a war that, when the 'big' war started, we'd already been burning the candle at both ends over for eight months, we retained the ability to get back on our feet pretty quickly, and that's exactly what we did. I can't help it if you don't like it. It's still true. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3962
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Posted - 2017.05.26 17:34:36 -
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Arrendis wrote:Instead of 30,000 pilots spread across five regions, we've got that many in one. Instead of those pilots being spread through 9 different alliances, with all of the patchwork defensive complications that arise in Entosis work, 27,474 of them are in one alliance, with roughy another 6k in 4 others.
P.S. - as a side note, that current total doesn't include Sister Bliss and the murder machine that is The Initiative, who add another 3,000 and have settled into Querious for a while before they go on another 'where do we want to burn people down today?' deployment.
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1957
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Posted - 2017.05.26 18:36:43 -
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For feck's sake, don't follow up an actual straightforwards post with an "We didn't want that space anyway" on Init's behalf. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3967
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Posted - 2017.05.26 20:21:43 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:For feck's sake, don't follow up an actual straightforwards post with an "We didn't want that space anyway" on Init's behalf.
I'm not. Init just got pushed out of Syndicate. But they only went into Syndicate to take it away from the former owner, who's now in MC. Init's been semi-nomadic for about three years now, Miz. They go someplace, settle for a while, then get bored and go someplace else. And considering it took you guys, NC, GotG, and Horde all together to push them out of SyndicateGÇöonce again without seriously degrading their combat capabilityGÇöI don't really see them sitting on their butts too long. You should know by now that Bliss is never shy about bringing the fight.
You blew up some cits. Their combat assets are still perfectly safe. So, once again: my ship or my head? |
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AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
6
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Posted - 2017.05.26 20:38:29 -
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Arrendis wrote:Mizhara Del'thul wrote:For feck's sake, don't follow up an actual straightforwards post with an "We didn't want that space anyway" on Init's behalf. I'm not. Init just got pushed out of Syndicate. But they only went into Syndicate to take it away from the former owner, who's now in MC. Init's been semi-nomadic for about three years now, Miz. They go someplace, settle for a while, then get bored and go someplace else. And considering it took you guys, NC, GotG, and Horde all together to push them out of SyndicateGÇöonce again without seriously degrading their combat capabilityGÇöI don't really see them sitting on their butts too long. You should know by now that Bliss is never shy about bringing the fight. You blew up some cits. Their combat assets are still perfectly safe. So, once again: my ship or my head?
You're forgetting one convenient option for us all. *your* head. Lest we forget. |
AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
6
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Posted - 2017.05.26 20:45:21 -
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Does anyone actually have any idea what a Blood Raider Sotiyo is actually worth? It's rhetorical. It's ridiculous amounts. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3969
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Posted - 2017.05.26 20:48:35 -
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AEther Galatia wrote:Does anyone actually have any idea what a Blood Raider Sotiyo is actually worth? It's rhetorical. It's ridiculous amounts.
The same as any other Sotiyo. |
Graelyn
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1097
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Posted - 2017.05.26 20:58:41 -
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We can swap later then, yes? Shouldn't be a problem?
Cardinal Graelyn
Imperial Liaison, I-RED
Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1958
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Posted - 2017.05.26 21:02:40 -
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Think there'd be a bit of contention over the contents of it. That's the valuable bit.
That said, so far the contents managed to move several kilometers before it went poof. I wonder how far the current ones will make it? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3970
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Posted - 2017.05.26 21:04:18 -
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Graelyn wrote:We can swap later then, yes? Shouldn't be a problem?
Swap what? Sotiyos? Sure. Next time I have an intact Blood Raider Sotiyo in my cargo bay, I'll bring it to Amarr, ok? Cuz right now, the ones out there aren't mine. They belong to the Blood Raiders.
S'why they're getting blown up. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3970
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Posted - 2017.05.26 21:05:06 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Think there'd be a bit of contention over the contents of it. That's the valuable bit.
That said, so far the contents managed to move several kilometers before it went poof. I wonder how far the current ones will make it?
Right now I've got '20km, 3 hulls' in the Directorate betting pool, actually. |
AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
6
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Posted - 2017.05.26 21:10:40 -
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Graelyn wrote:We can swap later then, yes? Shouldn't be a problem?
What would you want to swap it for? A Sotiyo is a Sotiyo. However. Location, location, location. As they say. |
AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
11
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Posted - 2017.05.28 13:22:49 -
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Is there anything else to add to this conversation? It's rather interesting. |
AEther Galatia
Celestial Eternity
11
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Posted - 2017.05.28 13:41:55 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:The goons themselves are at this point far stronger than they were in the north, having shed their worthless "Imperium" and folded some of the useful bits of it into their own organization.
Where's Imperium at these days anyways? I mean, if they folded or whatever?
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