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Pteranodon
Rekall Incorporated
The Forsaken.
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Posted - 2011.12.30 12:04:00 -
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Crucible was the "magnet" that was going to draw large numbers of people into the game.
These people are either new blood or players coming back with the new hope of a new improved game experience.
I think this expectation may fail because of the continuous start up issues, rounds of endless patching & the same old general reliability issues.
I am not naive to not know that poo happens but this has been an endless stream of dung & I feel that it will damage the perception of any new players coming into the game.
I also know that it is wrong to criticise without offering helpful suggestions but what can be said that has not already be said.
CCP need to improve on the overall impressions created by all these hiccups in the hope that they can finally exercise the spectre of a game that is floundering, of course the game is not floundering but if you left game & came back & saw more of the same- what would you think?. I think it is tragic that all these issues centre around expansions when players should be enjoying the new content instead of wondering whether they can play because of technical issues.
The game IS beautiful and it is vastly improved, so well done for that, it is just a shame that some of the pieces are not yet in place. |
Hung TuLo
Heavy Asset Relocation Inc
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Posted - 2011.12.30 12:10:00 -
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Pteranodon wrote:Crucible was the "magnet" that was going to draw large numbers of people into the game.
These people are either new blood or players coming back with the new hope of a new improved game experience.
I think this expectation may fail because of the continuous start up issues, rounds of endless patching & the same old general reliability issues.
I am not naive to not know that poo happens but this has been an endless stream of dung & I feel that it will damage the perception of any new players coming into the game.
I also know that it is wrong to criticise without offering helpful suggestions but what can be said that has not already be said.
CCP need to improve on the overall impressions created by all these hiccups in the hope that they can finally exercise the spectre of a game that is floundering, of course the game is not floundering but if you left game & came back & saw more of the same- what would you think?. I think it is tragic that all these issues centre around expansions when players should be enjoying the new content instead of wondering whether they can play because of technical issues.
The game IS beautiful and it is vastly improved, so well done for that, it is just a shame that some of the pieces are not yet in place.
I don't normally say this in any forums. YOUR AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Crawl under a bush ok???
"In space all warriors are cold warriors" ----á General Chang-á Star Trek VI |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2011.12.30 12:12:00 -
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*you're an idiot
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
GÇö Karath Piki |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians
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Posted - 2011.12.30 12:12:00 -
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You sir, disgust me.
quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Pteranodon
Rekall Incorporated
The Forsaken.
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Posted - 2011.12.30 12:15:00 -
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Bumblefck wrote:*you're an idiot
Please explain why I'm an idiot- enlighten me or are you just bored and had to write something?
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2373
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Posted - 2011.12.30 12:21:00 -
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Pteranodon wrote:Bumblefck wrote:*you're an idiot Please explain why I'm an idiot- enlighten me or are you just bored and had to write something?
I was actually referring to the post below yours, but considering you just jumped to conclusions without reading all of the posts I am now safe in my assertion that you are, verily, an idiot 
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
GÇö Karath Piki |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released
0ccupational Hazzard
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Posted - 2011.12.30 12:22:00 -
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Pteranodon wrote:Bumblefck wrote:*you're an idiot Please explain why I'm an idiot- enlighten me or are you just bored and had to write something?
You can't enlighten a moron.
Good day, sir!
I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies
I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
J Kunjeh
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Posted - 2011.12.30 12:24:00 -
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Pteranodon wrote:Crucible was the "magnet" that was going to draw large numbers of people into the game.
Uh, no...Crucible was CCP's mea culpa for the mess that this last year has been for Eve, CCP and the players. And a damn fine mea culpa it was, but it had nothing to do with bringing in new players.
"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)"
(The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2373
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Posted - 2011.12.30 12:25:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Pteranodon wrote:Bumblefck wrote:*you're an idiot Please explain why I'm an idiot- enlighten me or are you just bored and had to write something? You can't enlighten a moron. Good day, sir!
lol
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
GÇö Karath Piki |
Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
189
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Posted - 2011.12.30 12:46:00 -
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Oh believe me, the server used to be alot worse.
I Support the Goons! |
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.30 12:49:00 -
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Even highly advanced beings 1000s of years ahead of us technologically had an issue with their servers back in 1947. You can't expect CCP to have a 100% error free machine. |
TheLostPenguin
Surreal Departure
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Posted - 2011.12.30 12:50:00 -
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OP clearly wasn't here for Trinity.
OP clearly has no idea what CCP can do when they really screw up. |
Rengerel en Distel
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2011.12.30 13:01:00 -
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I must log in at the right times, because I don't even know what the OP is talking about. 2 emergency reboots in a month isn't exactly earth shattering.
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Pteranodon
Rekall Incorporated
The Forsaken.
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Posted - 2011.12.30 13:02:00 -
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TheLostPenguin wrote:OP clearly wasn't here for Trinity.
OP clearly has no idea what CCP can do when they really screw up.
I was in game when Trinity hit. I've been here 5 years. Does this not prove that CCP have not learnt many lessons?
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.30 14:00:00 -
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Pteranodon wrote:Crucible was the "magnet" that was going to draw large numbers of people into the game.
No it wasn't. Crucible was the desperate Hail Mary pass play to stem the flow of people out of the game after CCP spent two years ignoring Eve.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
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Posted - 2011.12.30 14:07:00 -
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Be our guest. If you can do it better, we're not going to stop you.
Only a few hick-ups and you weep?
Your life must be filled with disappointments.
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This is not even a damage control blog. This is just right-click > self-destruct. (Abdiel Kavash) |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2011.12.30 14:14:00 -
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Welcome to MMO-land, you must be new here.
This is my signature.-á There are many others like it, but this one is mine. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2011.12.30 14:19:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Pteranodon wrote:Bumblefck wrote:*you're an idiot Please explain why I'm an idiot- enlighten me or are you just bored and had to write something? You can't enlighten a moron. Good day, sir!
amar enlighten everyone, even morons. Tachyon beam laser + gleam, done.
a new bounty system for eve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105
You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Atticus Fynch
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Posted - 2011.12.30 14:28:00 -
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Pteranodon wrote:
I think this expectation may fail because of the continuous start up issues, rounds of endless patching & the same old general reliability issues.
Question: When has it ever been any different? You basically described business as usual for EVE.
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Pteranodon
Rekall Incorporated
The Forsaken.
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Posted - 2011.12.30 14:43:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:Pteranodon wrote:
I think this expectation may fail because of the continuous start up issues, rounds of endless patching & the same old general reliability issues.
Question: When has it ever been any different? You basically described business as usual for EVE. Endless patches? It's called "development."
I agree. However, should patches move the game forward?
There have been many instances where the patches have moved the game backwards or worse broke it. |
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Atticus Fynch
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Posted - 2011.12.30 14:51:00 -
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Pteranodon wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:Pteranodon wrote:
I think this expectation may fail because of the continuous start up issues, rounds of endless patching & the same old general reliability issues.
Question: When has it ever been any different? You basically described business as usual for EVE. Endless patches? It's called "development." I agree. However, should patches move the game forward? There have been many instances where the patches have moved the game backwards or worse broke it.
Patches are more akin to "maintenance" which is never ending.
"Releases" give the game direction. Move the game "forward"....or "backwards" as with Incarna.
What's best is that it's also free so dont look a gift horse in the mouth.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.12.30 14:59:00 -
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Pteranodon wrote:I agree. However, should patches move the game forward? Not really, no. Patches should fix things without (hopefully) breaking to much of the old stuff, but in any reasonably complex system, it's bound to happen.
So the question remains: when has it ever been any different? You basically described business as usual for EVE.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Kalin Trose
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.30 15:31:00 -
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Ok im gonna stand up for the OP here because it seems that the guys replying are either deluded or plain stupid.
In simple terms for those that need it.
Recently Hilmar made this awesome very public apology and then took us on this wonderful story about how he wants and demands perfection from here on in.
That perfection has not happened.
Yes GMs are active on the boards but that's pretty much the only thing that's been bettered.
This update has indeed brought numerous great things, new ships, new CQ but its also brought in patch after patch after patch after patch to fix the small things that :
SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE ON SISI FIRST
I wonder do CCP use the TEST SERVER for there fail patchs before they take them to TQ?
Old players will not come back to this, there is too much wrong with the game and that's a shame.
Why cant CCP make a patch that doesn't need fixing? Answer is for such a small mouth you've taken on more than you can chew.
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Hung TuLo
Heavy Asset Relocation Inc
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Posted - 2011.12.30 15:38:00 -
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Ah, so the brother of the IDIOT stands up to defend the OP with even more rabble on how he would do things and how things should work.
SO you really know how things work??????????
Kalin stand up and take a bow....
"In space all warriors are cold warriors" ----á General Chang-á Star Trek VI |
Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
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Posted - 2011.12.30 15:54:00 -
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I demand that CCP immediately CEASE AND DESIST with their fixes and improvements to the game.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â)
-áGÖÑ New Years Resolution ~ Cease thy Smacktalk GÖÑ |
Kalin Trose
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.30 15:56:00 -
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I know enough to suggest that CCPs strive for exellence is failing and sub numbers are dropping..
Dropping subs generally means people are leaving the game so.......why is that?
Updates have to be tested and tested until they are deemed perfect enough to go onto TQ.
Does CCP have a quality control department?
The fail begins on allowing flawed content onto a live environment, this is what SISI is for and should be utilized for this purpose. If this happened sub numbers would cease to drop and most likely increase.
If CCP cannot lower the workload per update to get it right the first time they need to hire more people to accomodate said workload. Instead they just fired alot of its staff.
That makes sense....oh wait
I just think CCP are getting it wrong in a big way on the small things.
For the love of god, make an update, get it on sisi and test the living hell out of it with a fine tooth comb. When the quality control team says its ok then release it to TQ. |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians
734
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Posted - 2011.12.30 15:57:00 -
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Kalin Trose wrote:
SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE ON SISI FIRST
I wonder do CCP use the TEST SERVER for there fail patchs before they take them to TQ?
Dude - get out of the forums now. Get the **** OUT.
Your ******** reply makes my eye cry and my soul burn. I don't wanna see your face or your failed arguments here again.
HTFU & GTFO
quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.12.30 16:01:00 -
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Kalin Trose wrote:Recently Hilmar made this awesome very public apology and then took us on this wonderful story about how he wants and demands perfection from here on in. Again, not really, noGǪ He made an apology where he said the priority would be EVE, and that has happened.
The stability has improved incrementally and the new micro-patches have allowed for far better deployment of new fixes. Server issues can and will happen GÇö business as usual.
Quote:Dropping subs generally means people are leaving the game so.......why is that? Two years of neglect. They've only had two months of trying to reverse that so far.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2011.12.30 16:06:00 -
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ITT we just start making **** up and roll with it.
Man, I cant believe they buffed the drake on that last patch. Now no bitter vets will make trial accounts.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
Kalin Trose
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.30 16:12:00 -
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Tippia, Yeah ok so your spot on.
But what I'm thinking is that a patch should be perfect when its released. The fact that these updates need multiple patchs right away is wrong.
CCP must know that they're releasing poor game fixs or they'd be no need for patch after patch the same week the update was deployed.
I don't see the reason to not use sisi to perfect an update before deployment.
Its like they have everything they need at there disposal yet dont use it. |
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