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Xzanos
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Posted - 2017.05.19 16:55:57 -
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I think that the 10% damage and HP bonus for drones on the Vexor needs to be reduced to 5%. The vexor would still easily be the king of cruisers while at least dropping its DPS into a more comparable place to the other cruisers.
Currently this ship is very overpowered.
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Xzanos
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Posted - 2017.05.22 20:40:02 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:But it's also mediocre against frigates and T3 destroyers who can speed tank it, and has plenty of other limitations.
These are the same limitations almost all turret cruisers face though so its not really a limitation only the vexor has.
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Xzanos
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Posted - 2017.05.22 21:03:36 -
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Rawls Canardly wrote:Ok, I'll bite, why do you think the T1 Vexor needs a nerf? The cap is too small for prolonged mwding around the field, it's tank is far weaker than caracal or maller, it's far slower than the rupture... The thing is honestly mediocre in most regards, and even the DPS barely keeps up (if your drones haven't died yet). Why, pray tell, do you want the droneboat's drone bonus nerfed?
I guess I just never get good matchups... With no damage mods and med drones the Vexor is capable of pushing 500 dps.. I will use the Rupture in this example which is only able to put out 340 dps.. this is already a huge gap.
This is easily compounded with damage mods or "sacrificing damage" to dedicate all lows slots for tank.
The amount of damage that a shield fit Vexor outputs is so high that the Neut you could fit in a utility slot of the Rupture will not cap out your opponent nearly fast enough, and most armor Vexor fit cap boosters.
The drone bay size also severely thwarts any attempt at fitting a smartbomb to counter drones.
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Xzanos
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Posted - 2017.05.23 01:06:54 -
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Nerlens Nerlens wrote:Xzanos wrote:[quote=Rawls Canardly]
I guess I just never get good matchups... With no damage mods and med drones the Vexor is capable of pushing 500 dps. I will use the Rupture in this example which is only able to put out 340 dps
To approach that amount of DPS without damage mods the vexor needs to fit blasters, which gimp the rest of the fit.
Even with blasters fit the damage output at range is higher all the way to max falloff.. plus the drones damage distance from your target does not matter.
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Xzanos
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Posted - 2017.05.24 20:20:18 -
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Kalihira wrote:W0lf Crendraven wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Did someone get killed by a Vexor? Why do people always make it personal, the vexor is by far the best t1 cruiser. The only thing close to it is the caracal. It does everything, its extremely tanky with either absurd ehp via a buffer tank or dual or even triple rep. It does absurd dps for a cruiser (over 1k if fit for it), its fast, it can kite. It can do everything. A t2 fit buffer vexor has 52k EHP while dealing 628dps cold. In a game where most cuisers have about 30k ehp and deal 500 dps or so. It doesnt even require skills, its the perfect noobship (t2 light neutron buffer fit), its also perfect for older players. Its just way to good. And no i havnt died to a vexor in ages, so it really isnt personal. So your argument against the vexor is its versatility? It cant do all those things at once, do one thing and you cant do another. Its a fun ship, but nowhere near as powerfull as you make it to be. Fly it around and its limitations will become clear soon enough...
Flying other ships will show even greater weaknesses.
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Xzanos
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Posted - 2017.05.24 20:45:08 -
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Ping PangWang wrote:link a fit that does all that at once......................
No ship can do everything at once, you are correct. But this ship does not have to sacrifice as much to increase its damage and can make up for its other stats.
Drone boats in general have the extreme advantage of not having to stay near their target to apply a majority of their damage and there for being able to fight at multiple ranges with a single fit is also very possible. The tracking on rails is extremely good as well so kite fits are not as vulnerable of smaller ships (or even other cruisers for that matter) getting under its guns.
These two fits one semi kite / buffer and the other an active armor, cant do everything but they sure can do more than most.
[Vexor, Vexor fity]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
Large Shield Extender II
50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Hammerhead II x5
[Vexor, dps]
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
J5b Enduring Warp Scrambler
Stasis Webifier II
50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Hammerhead II x5
And as a drone boat, I will retract my statement to say that perhaps its the damage bonus to the guns that should be changed, To keep this ship in its drone boat role.
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Xzanos
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Posted - 2017.05.25 20:00:46 -
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W0lf Crendraven wrote:
It cant lose if flown properly.
Not to mention that you can beat a stabber in a 1v1 by pressing approach, mwd on and putting 5 light drones on him.
Killing drones is almost never the right thing to do anyways.
Some people may not think that this ship is overpowered but its defiantly near the top, and its easy to fly which makes it all the more powerful as there is more room for error. I think that this is the case with a lot of ships.
Easy to fly = more effective
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