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elise densi
Ascendance Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.06.02 11:11:29 -
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why the hell did u made rorquals mining ships the first place to just nerf them again along with anom respawn timers oh please .... |
Napalm Morning
Black Omega Security Mercenary Coalition
0
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Posted - 2017.06.02 11:26:41 -
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You need to be a special kind of ****** developer to bait ppl into investing tens of billions in rorquals, then nerfing them to the ground 8 months later.
Nerfing once - ok we all knew 300-400M per hour was insane, but why make them so op in the first place. Second nerfGÇï - fine, they still mined above 200 per hour
But now you want them to yied as much as 3 exhumers and even less.
Are you goddamn ********?
P.S: On a positive note. The respawn anoms timers is a great idea. Limiting imba mining by huge groups like Goons. You should just have kept the change limited to it. |
Alux Vemane
Zonk Squad Badfellas Inc.
0
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Posted - 2017.06.02 11:31:12 -
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Healthy economy just for CCP's profits. |
Wibla
Tactical Narcotics Team
195
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Posted - 2017.06.02 11:36:15 -
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Napalm Morning wrote:You need to be a special kind of ****** developer to bait ppl into investing tens of billions in rorquals, then nerfing them to the ground 8 months later.
Nerfing once - ok we all knew 300-400M per hour was insane, but why make them so op in the first place. Second nerfGÇï - fine, they still mined above 200 per hour
But now you want them to yied as much as 3 exhumers and even less.
Are you goddamn ********?
P.S: On a positive note. The respawn anoms timers is a great idea. Limiting imba mining by huge groups like Goons. You should just have kept the change limited to it.
P.S: We've already solved that problem |
Yazor
We Are Down Syndrome Shadow of xXDEATHXx
5
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Posted - 2017.06.02 11:36:47 -
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Napalm Morning wrote:You need to be a special kind of ****** developer to bait ppl into investing tens of billions in rorquals, then nerfing them to the ground 8 months later.
Nerfing once - ok we all knew 300-400M per hour was insane, but why make them so op in the first place. Second nerfGÇï - fine, they still mined above 200 per hour
But now you want them to yied as much as 3 exhumers and even less.
Are you goddamn ********?
P.S: On a positive note. The respawn anoms timers is a great idea. Limiting imba mining by huge groups like Goons. You should just have kept the change limited to it.
"Now you want them to yield as much as 3 Exhumers"????
Have you sparced the yields at all Napalm? Current Rorqual with a Tank heavy fit yield as much as 2 Exhumer.... if you sacrifice tank for yield then you may get 3 - 3.5 Hulk yields.... this new nerf CCP is planning will lower the yield even more.... so if you want to live through a hot drop and you fit your Rorqual with a tank fit.... your new yields may be equal to a single hulk after this "Correction" by CCP |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
2893
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Posted - 2017.06.02 11:40:19 -
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I find it absolutely hilarious that CCP has a 15% off sale on skill extractors this weekend. Talk about perfect timing!
CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
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Budai Aniko
30plus Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2017.06.02 11:44:03 -
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Have your sphincters totally cut off your collective air supplies? You have repeatedly betrayed the trust of the player base with cheap cash grabs and outright lies regarding promises to fix problems such as the excavator monopoly and other issues of concern to the players who provide your paychecks. I have paid up three accounts for a year in advance but now I WANT MY MONEY BACK!! |
Panther X
High Flyers Northern Coalition.
125
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Posted - 2017.06.02 11:49:04 -
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Are games not supposed to be fun? Am I missing something?
Eve is going the way of having an abscessed tooth that you cant get an emergency dental visit for and have to suffer for a week.
Eve is the only counter-intuitive game around; where the technology gets worse with each successive pass, rather than blossoming with new technology and innovations.
Isn't technology supposed to improve with each generation?
It seems to me New Eden is backwards. Our tech keeps going backwards in time.
"Our ships are too powerful Your Highness, we better make them not so powerful, so that the Cursed Minmatar do not whine (not win) so much."
What kind of silly logic is that?
This is the only game i know where the developers keep throwing carrots out in front of us, but once we get them they are moldy and covered in dog crap.
But wait a shiny new skin! It's shiny! It has gold stripes!
My Titan smells of rich Corinthian Leather...
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Raindeth
FACTION Inc.
21
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Posted - 2017.06.02 11:49:59 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:I find it absolutely hilarious that CCP has a 15% off sale on skill extractors this weekend. Talk about perfect timing!
Anyone with rorqual skills should be given 5 free skill extractors. CCP profiting with real money spent on skill extractors after nullsec bears being baited on a free colossal is hella dodgy. But, then again, this is Eve.
Kudos on making nullsec cry over a mining nerf, too. I could never have predicted that 2 years ago! Kinda makes you elite organizations jealous that you cannot extract tears so easily, eh? |
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1891
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Posted - 2017.06.02 12:01:03 -
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Quote: 8. Use of profanity is prohibited.
The use of profanity is prohibited on the EVE Online forums. This includes the partial masking of letters using numbers or alternate symbols, and any attempts at bypassing the profanity filter.
33. "Quitting" posts are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience channel.
CCP recognize that during the course of gameplay a lot of friendships are made between players and that sometimes if a player is taking a break or departing from the EVE universe that they would like to say goodbye on the forums. Posts of this nature are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum, and must be civil and well worded.
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ISD Max Trix
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Logan Jakal
Blue Sun. DARKNESS.
21
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Posted - 2017.06.02 12:03:52 -
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I usually don't complain about CCP ideas, but this, this is just the WORST bullshit I saw by far. I mean, at this rate, just close the servers because it's the only thing you are going to achieve with what you are currently doing.
I can understand the ore yield nerfing, but what's with the ******* speed and anomaly repop ? At what moment did this sound like a possible good idea for you guys ? That's the real question. Nerfing the yield for the third time is already a dickmove since you knew since the start that Rorqs would be an isk fountain, but that, that I don't understand. |
Confesions
30plus Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2017.06.02 12:11:46 -
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CCP need to understand one thing the "community" pay to play this game "community = the individuals who pay the green dollas to play it now ive got everyone attention excellent.
Rorqual went on field to make the pvpers happy then the market goes to **** then nerf then nerf the nerf for the nerf. So can CCP nerf the nerf that did rorqual nerf ?
So the Question is whats the next nerf
RIP the Rorqual
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elise densi
Ascendance Goonswarm Federation
59
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Posted - 2017.06.02 12:13:23 -
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next thing will be paying sov bills with plex |
Budai Aniko
30plus Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2017.06.02 12:14:53 -
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Apparently CCP is now run by scientologists, who are historically intolerant of any expression of truths they do not like. My reccently removed post (was #305) contained no profanity nor any other disallowed content per the forum rules. Perhaps it was my statement that I wanted back the real money I spent on 3 years' worth of prepaid eve time. |
John Africanus
The Warp Core Stabilizers Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.06.02 12:16:35 -
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This is my first and probably last post on this forum.
I bought a Rorqual just in time to find out about this ridiculous changes. I have put in (as all others) a lot of time, effort and ISK to be able to buy my first Capital and was exited to start getting ISK back that would cover my expenses and earn me some more within a reasonable time so that I can buy something like a Hel later. Now I doubt if I will ever be able to get there with the Rorqual or any mining for that matter. As others already mentioned, time is going to be the biggest problem. I too have only maximum 3 hours a day that I can play EVE. I could still live with the idea that I can still mine 3 hours but with less yield but if I have to sometimes waste my time (and real money) by not be able to play the game as I enjoy it then obviously there is no reason for me to continue. As a matter of fact I may then be paying for something that is only going to frustrate me.
For me it is an easy (though sad) decision to make.. if this happens there will be no reason for me to continue with it. I will remember it as a time I enjoyed while it lasted.
I am not criticizing and I am sure CCP got there reasons why they are doing this and surely somehow they expect the changes to better the game and draw more people to it. After all it is a business and they should know the mechanics that make there business grow better than us. But we as their customers have a choice if we want to buy there product or not. This product is becoming less and less desirable to me and once this change kicks in I for one will have no use for this product anymore.
So CCP I thank you for the fun I had while it lasted but for me I think the time has come to say good-bye. |
Logan Jakal
Blue Sun. DARKNESS.
21
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Posted - 2017.06.02 12:21:55 -
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Oh and I forgot to mention, what's coming later this year in December ? Moon Mining ! I guess that the nerf is totally innocent and has nothing to see with the upcoming changes heh CCP ?
I'm just gonna extract and sell my Rorquals since CCP has decided to go fully ******** on these changes. Maybe one day you guys will start to actually have good ideas that don't involve abusive nerfings to boost your profits (because I guess the initial Rorq changes made a lot of PLEX and injectors sales heh CCP ?). |
ChewChewChew
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.06.02 12:22:12 -
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=( |
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1891
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Posted - 2017.06.02 12:22:53 -
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7. Discussion of real life religion and politics is prohibited.
Discussion of real life religion and politics is strictly prohibited on the EVE Online forums. Discussions of this nature often creates animosity between forum users due to real life political or military conflicts. CCP promotes the growth of a gaming community where equality is at the forefront. Nationalist, religious or political affiliations are not part of EVE Online, and should not be part of discussion on the EVE Online forums.
33. "Quitting" posts are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience channel.
CCP recognize that during the course of gameplay a lot of friendships are made between players and that sometimes if a player is taking a break or departing from the EVE universe that they would like to say goodbye on the forums. Posts of this nature are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum, and must be civil and well worded.
Post removed for one or more of the above reasons.
ISD Max Trix
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Logan Jakal
Blue Sun. DARKNESS.
21
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Posted - 2017.06.02 12:24:32 -
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ISD Max Trix wrote: 7. Discussion of real life religion and politics is prohibited.
Discussion of real life religion and politics is strictly prohibited on the EVE Online forums. Discussions of this nature often creates animosity between forum users due to real life political or military conflicts. CCP promotes the growth of a gaming community where equality is at the forefront. Nationalist, religious or political affiliations are not part of EVE Online, and should not be part of discussion on the EVE Online forums.
33. "Quitting" posts are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience channel.
CCP recognize that during the course of gameplay a lot of friendships are made between players and that sometimes if a player is taking a break or departing from the EVE universe that they would like to say goodbye on the forums. Posts of this nature are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum, and must be civil and well worded.
Post removed for one or more of the above reasons.
Jesus christ, take a chill pill already, is your real name Dread or something to be hammering like this ? |
Napalm Morning
Black Omega Security Mercenary Coalition
0
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Posted - 2017.06.02 12:33:12 -
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Logan Jakal wrote:I
I can understand the ore yield nerfing, but what's with the ******* speed and anomaly repop ? At what moment did this sound like a possible good idea for you guys ? That's the real question. Nerfing the yield for the third time is already a dickmove since you knew since the start that Rorqs would be an isk fountain, but that, that I don't understand. It is really sad you don't understand the only good change they plan to make. Are you living in Goon space?
This is an awesome way to make superclusters of the largest groups spread around and not mine with 10 rorquals in a single system. |
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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1891
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Posted - 2017.06.02 12:34:06 -
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Quote: 12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.
The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a support ticket under the Community & Forums Category.
Post and those quoting it were removed for the above reason.
ISD Max Trix
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners ChaosTheory.
15977
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Posted - 2017.06.02 12:41:06 -
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I said this about the T3C thing, I didn't even see this one coming, man, I should have called a stock broker and invested in Corn Futures
I know people are angry and even some of my friends are annoyed by this. This is another example of CCP foolishly getting people hooked on something that is too good to be in the game , then nerfing it and seeming acting surprised by the negativity. It happened with incursions (the 1st version of incursions were insane isk pumps, then CCP nerfed them and whole communities died, the thread about it was much like this one), did it with FW missions, and other things.
I imagine that CCP made the "Super Capital Mistake" again ie thinking that 'cost or risk were going to limit the numbers of people doing the activity so it's fine that it's so powerful'. But how many times does this have to happen before you learn that people WILL find a way to exploit things that are better than they should be?
These nerfs are probably necessary (oh crap, why are there pitchforks flying through my window as I said that) and the angry folks should come around to thinking about how this might actually help some (with rebounding mineral prices for example). But yea CCP, stop doing it like this, you generate unnecessary angst when you buff too much then are forced to nerf later. |
Eye-Luv-Girls wDaddyIssues
Hookers N' Blow
35
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Posted - 2017.06.02 12:43:00 -
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Alux Vemane wrote:Healthy economy just for CCP's profits.
Must be a european socialist.
Yes more money for CCP. They run a business, they have employee's to pay, they have costs, they have to make a profit. If every player in the game paid for their subscriptions with ISK how would these people feed their families?
While you are at it can tweak drop rates on faction modules. In some cases faction modules are cheaper than T2 modules which seems excessive. Maybe balance it with more drops of more expensive modules.
Also where are the QOL/Tiericde etc you've announced 5x already.
Good to see CCP watching these things and balancing them. |
Napalm Morning
Black Omega Security Mercenary Coalition
0
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Posted - 2017.06.02 12:43:14 -
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Time for Fozzie to change the company. His team has obviously ran out of idea or refuse to hire someone who understands how industry works.
1st nerf - We can all agree 300-350M per hour yield was insane. 2nd - Still above 200M. Not cool, we accepted it.
Now you want to drop yields below 120M and baited ppl into investing tens of billions in rorqs.
Kudos for the anom respawns that will limit the superpowers' clusters that break down the economy, mining with 10-15 rorqs pwr system. Apart from that, all other ideas were ********. |
Roci Nantes
Brand Newbros Test Alliance Please Ignore
69
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Posted - 2017.06.02 12:43:32 -
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My limited mining window means it's time to go back to pewpewing rats for the iskies. Just need to mine as hard as I can till this happens. It's sad cause I liked my rorq. I can let that toon go alpha though since that's all it flys. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
2894
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Posted - 2017.06.02 13:02:26 -
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Napalm Morning wrote:[quote=Logan Jakal]I
This is an awesome way to make superclusters of the largest groups spread around and not mine with 10 rorquals in a single system.
That is so manifestly untrue it is not funny.
If they want to make it harder to mine with 10 Rorquals at once, then add a Fighter-type interface to the Excavator drones. I've said from the beginning that Excavator drones should have been fighters.
CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
2894
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Posted - 2017.06.02 13:04:48 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:I said this about the T3C thing, I didn't even see this one coming, man, I should have called a stock broker and invested in Corn Futures I know people are angry and even some of my friends are annoyed by this. This is another example of CCP foolishly getting people hooked on something that is too good to be in the game , then nerfing it and seeming acting surprised by the negativity. It happened with incursions (the 1st version of incursions were insane isk pumps, then CCP nerfed them and whole communities died, the thread about it was much like this one), did it with FW missions, and other things. I imagine that CCP made the "Super Capital Mistake" again ie thinking that 'cost or risk were going to limit the numbers of people doing the activity so it's fine that it's so powerful'. But how many times does this have to happen before you learn that people WILL find a way to exploit things that are better than they should be? These nerfs are probably necessary (oh crap, why are there pitchforks flying through my window as I said that) and the angry folks should come around to thinking about how this might actually help some (with rebounding mineral prices for example). But yea CCP, stop doing it like this, you generate unnecessary angst when you buff too much then are forced to nerf later.
I agree with this. I guess I am so irritated by it because when I saw the initial numbers I was like "that's insane! that can't be right! It won't last!" So I expected the first couple of nerfs. It's this one that I was surprised by. That and it totally screws you if you live in the wrong time zone and can only play for a couple of hours a day.
CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
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Thead Enco
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
290
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Posted - 2017.06.02 13:09:36 -
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Roci Nantes wrote:My limited mining window means it's time to go back to pewpewing rats for the iskies. Just need to mine as hard as I can till this happens. It's sad cause I liked my rorq. I can let that toon go alpha though since that's all it flys.
Confirming July changes to all faction Null Sec Combat sites with Military ADM LVL 5:
Sanctums will have a 3 hour respawn rate
Havens will have a 1 Hour respawn rate
Forlorn Hubs will have a 30 min respawn rate |
elise densi
Ascendance Goonswarm Federation
59
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Posted - 2017.06.02 13:11:05 -
[359] - Quote
and yet highsec incursions still untouched and riskfree |
Blaad Booyashaka
Hotline K162 The Clown Car
22
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Posted - 2017.06.02 13:15:26 -
[360] - Quote
So there were two main issues with Rorquals anybody who can see beyond their "OMG MY ISK BACK-BONE" admits.
1. You could stack nearly infinite number of them in one system removing any limit of how much profit you can suck from one system/region/whole Eden. It's not the case of super ratting, sleeper sites farming or DED running or incursions, so comparing those 1:1 makes no sense.
2. They gave very good ISK/h and scaled linearly with number of accounts as you can semi-afk them. Again it's not the case of super ratting, sleeper sites farming, DED running or incursions, so comparing those 1:1 makes no sense.
CCP tries to address both problems and everybody with a clue knew it is coming sooner or later. Yeah, sucks to be you. But how about HTFU, adapt, extract the SP if you wish and move on instead of throwing tantrums on forums?
PS: I don't rat in super (and at all) but I do have 3 miner chars that are training towards Rorqual. Sucks to be me too. |
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