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Fifty Three
Fifty Three 53
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Posted - 2017.06.05 18:47:38 -
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Please can you give 1 more low slot so it can be made a bit more tougher to defend itself against pirtate Cruisers, or larger ships on a 1 versus 1?
-It would need more resources, MINERALS, to build though.
...and here come the haters after I make this post.
Edit: Somehow the Thread got posted in General Dicussion forum, like another the which happen the other day. Strange I am sure I was looking at the Features forum. Moderator please put this one in Features, Thank you. |
April rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
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Posted - 2017.06.05 18:52:30 -
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No hate here, i'm just curious: - what you want Orca to be able to defend itself against? NPC? Players? - what security level of system you thinking about? high-sec? low-sec? - more details in general |
Fifty Three
Fifty Three 53
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Posted - 2017.06.05 19:06:47 -
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Human players. They hit me with Assault cruisers and battleships at different times(occasions) when mining. Usually in low sectors, but one also did so in high sector with a Battle Cruiser, overall thinking mostly about low sect. Well, the Orca only has 2 lows right now, the medium slots cannot fit armour/resistance etc. for a bit better defence, so it wold be nice to have 3 low slots just like how a few other Ore ships have them. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2017.06.05 19:18:50 -
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Fifty Three wrote:Human players. They hit me with Assault cruisers and battleships at different times(occasions) when mining. Usually in low sectors, but one also did so in high sector with a Battle Cruiser, overall thinking mostly about low sect. Well, the Orca only has 2 lows right now, the medium slots cannot fit armour/resistance etc. for a bit better defence, so it wold be nice to have 3 low slots just like how a few other Ore ships have them. You need to learn to fit your Orca properly.
Those two low slots and the 3 rig slots make for a monstrous tank if you put the right modules in them.
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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
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Posted - 2017.06.05 19:23:53 -
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I dunno, this fit has over 400k ehp, not sure adding a lowslot is really needed. an extra low won't really make much of a difference in a typical engagement, will just take them a few extra gun cycles to finish you off.
[Orca, EHP] Damage Control II Reinforced Bulkheads II
500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Pith X-Type Thermal Dissipation Field Pith X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
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April rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
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Posted - 2017.06.05 19:24:03 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Fifty Three wrote:Human players. They hit me with Assault cruisers and battleships at different times(occasions) when mining. Usually in low sectors, but one also did so in high sector with a Battle Cruiser, overall thinking mostly about low sect. Well, the Orca only has 2 lows right now, the medium slots cannot fit armour/resistance etc. for a bit better defence, so it wold be nice to have 3 low slots just like how a few other Ore ships have them. You need to learn to fit your Orca properly. Those two low slots and the 3 rig slots make for a monstrous tank if you put the right modules in them. ^^ this.
And tank won't help if you are going to solo in low-sec. People will just throw more ships at you |
Shawn en Tilavine
Unity of Suns Warped Intentions
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Posted - 2017.06.05 19:24:06 -
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At first, I opened this thread thinking it was another one of your "To the Developers: please make the game easier for me because I have no clue how Eve works, no desire to learn, and I just suck at it" threads.
Lo and behold, I wasn't disappointed. Thanks!! (Really, you have to imagine my shock) :)
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Piugattuk
Perkone Caldari State
635
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Posted - 2017.06.05 19:24:59 -
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If you fit it with transverse bulkhead in rigs, 2 drone damage in lows, and drone navigation, then shield booster/invulnerable, webifier, medium drones/lights, tech 2, I've done guristas forsaken hubs in null, I've killed 2 squads of sleepers 8 ships total, the orca as is, is quite capable when fit for combat. |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
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Posted - 2017.06.05 20:03:32 -
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It would be like african mass of tribals hunting for hippos. They will throw spears at you until you are dead. No matter how angry or how tough you are, they have enough spears and enough tribe members.
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Jones Beach
Bagel and Lox
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Posted - 2017.06.05 20:30:16 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:I dunno, this fit has over 400k ehp, not sure adding a lowslot is really needed. an extra low won't really make much of a difference in a typical engagement, will just take them a few extra gun cycles to finish you off.
[Orca, EHP] Damage Control II Reinforced Bulkheads II
500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Pith X-Type Thermal Dissipation Field Pith X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
[empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Large Transverse Bulkhead II Large Transverse Bulkhead II Large Transverse Bulkhead II
as long as we are doing an orca wish list - I would rather have 2 extra mids then another low - that way I could fit scram and web in addition to a decent tank. Also more drone band width and larger drone bay. Put neuts in the highs and then you would be good to go. |
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ISD Bubblemoon
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2017.06.05 20:47:20 -
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Moved to Player Features and Ideas Discussion
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Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
2910
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Posted - 2017.06.05 21:06:02 -
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Orca needs at least five geckos, at least one DD, and ability to fit bastion. Get on it devs!
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Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
341
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Posted - 2017.06.05 21:15:51 -
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Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:Orca needs at least five geckos, at least one DD, and ability to fit bastion. Get on it devs!
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Do Little
Virgin Plc Evictus.
1258
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Posted - 2017.06.05 21:17:02 -
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As others have said - more tank simply prolongs the agony. Result would be the same if you were flying a titan. If you want to be a solo miner, stay in highsec or ninja mine with an expedition frigate.
I think you may find the tone of the replies you receive would change if you posted to: the community - how do I solve this problem? or do you think this is a good idea?
instead of to: the developers - which is presumptuous, especially given the age of your character! |
Old Pervert
Perkone Caldari State
100
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Posted - 2017.06.05 21:25:30 -
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I came here expecting the usual stupidity. I was disappointed.
It's not a stupid idea, but it is most certainly pointless. The Orca already has an utterly obscene amount of tank. Adding another low slot would not be changing the outcome of anything for it.
Sure it might get you more tank, or more dps, but as others have said... an indy ship will never be able to beat a pvp gang. Ever. Well, maybe if the gang is stupid.
3 players should have zero problems bringing down an orca. First they tackle, then they defang (kill your drones), then they burn your tank. More tank, more drone damage, it won't matter, they'll still kill you unless you get help from someone in an actual pvp ship to force them off or ideally kill them.
Since they already have an obscene tank, that should be more than enough time for a response fleet to come help. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2017.06.05 22:18:17 -
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Fifty Three, I've just had a poke about in your losses; I'm going to offer some unsolicited advice based on what I saw there.
Forget about hull repairers, they are amongst the most useless modules in the game.
When you fit a ship, concentrate on ONE form of tank, fitting a hull repairer and/or an armour repair on a ship that also has 4 slots filled with shield modules is not a good idea (dat skiff ), likewise flying a Mackinaw with just a hull repairer or no tank modules at all is not a good idea.
There's no need for you to keep asking the Devs to solve "problems" for you, especially those that the rest of us have already solved for ourselves.
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Cade Windstalker
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Posted - 2017.06.05 22:43:33 -
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Fifty Three wrote:Human players. They hit me with Assault cruisers and battleships at different times(occasions) when mining. Usually in low sectors, but one also did so in high sector with a Battle Cruiser, overall thinking mostly about low sect. Well, the Orca only has 2 lows right now, the medium slots cannot fit armour/resistance etc. for a bit better defence, so it wold be nice to have 3 low slots just like how a few other Ore ships have them.
Don't bring an Orca into Low Sec without support...
An extra low slot is not going to save you, at all, and your seeming belief that it will is ridiculous.
This has nothing to do with people being 'haters', your knowledge and understanding of the game and how it works is simply wrong. If you were asking questions like "how can I mine effectively in Low Sec" instead of making ridiculous suggestions you'd find a far more receptive audience. |
Axure Abbacus
Pentex Subsidiaries Corp
47
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Posted - 2017.06.05 22:58:21 -
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Ancillary shield booster is the module you are looking for on ORE ships. Not armor or hull reppers. Shield or Armor rigs for boosting shield or Hull ehp.
Would I be willing to trade 20 to 30% hull EHP for another low slot and more bandwidth? I might. I would also rather people learn to eve.
Where ever you are mining, molden heath, Khanid...quit being there. look for some usless system or a open c1-c2 W-hole. Save your isk and quit T2 hulls.
Afk mining just isn't your thing. Have you tried PI? Maxed out construction colony can fit 18 factories.
It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid.
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
1238
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Posted - 2017.06.06 00:52:56 -
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You don't need to say "to the developers". That's literally the point of this section of the forums.
Do you walk into a coffee shop and say "To the barista" before ordering?
Fifty Three wrote:Human players. They hit me with Assault cruisers and battleships at different times(occasions) when mining. Usually in low sectors, but one also did so in high sector with a Battle Cruiser, overall thinking mostly about low sect. Well, the Orca only has 2 lows right now, the medium slots cannot fit armour/resistance etc. for a bit better defence, so it wold be nice to have 3 low slots just like how a few other Ore ships have them.
There's a solution to this already. What's the second 'M' in MMORPG stand for? |
mkint
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Posted - 2017.06.06 01:15:09 -
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Shawn en Tilavine wrote:At first, I opened this thread thinking it was another one of your "To the Developers: please make the game easier for me because I have no clue how Eve works, no desire to learn, and I just suck at it" threads.
Lo and behold, I wasn't disappointed. Thanks!! (Really, you have to imagine my shock) :) damnit, you beat me to it.
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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
1499
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Posted - 2017.06.07 13:15:26 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:You don't need to say "to the developers". That's literally the point of this section of the forums. Do you walk into a coffee shop and say "To the barista" before ordering? Fifty Three wrote:Human players. They hit me with Assault cruisers and battleships at different times(occasions) when mining. Usually in low sectors, but one also did so in high sector with a Battle Cruiser, overall thinking mostly about low sect. Well, the Orca only has 2 lows right now, the medium slots cannot fit armour/resistance etc. for a bit better defence, so it wold be nice to have 3 low slots just like how a few other Ore ships have them. There's a solution to this already. What's the second 'M' in MMORPG stand for? Men. Mostly Men Online Role Playing Girls.
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
1499
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Posted - 2017.06.07 13:16:51 -
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Fifty Three wrote:Please can you give 1 more low slot so it can be made a bit more tougher to defend itself against pirtate Cruisers, or larger ships on a 1 versus 1?
-It would need more resources, MINERALS, to build though.
...and here come the haters after I make this post.
Edit: Somehow the Thread got posted in General Dicussion forum, like another the which happen the other day. Strange I am sure I was looking at the Features forum. Moderator please put this one in Features, Thank you. Killmail?
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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Axure Abbacus
Pentex Subsidiaries Corp
49
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Posted - 2017.06.07 13:26:55 -
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Massively "Macro'd" online Raiding Player Gold
But really, 53, Eve has become a lot more...new player friendly over the years. Use the new bro resources available to you and this could be a very different, much more enjoyable game for you.
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Axure Abbacus
Pentex Subsidiaries Corp
49
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Posted - 2017.06.07 13:40:38 -
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i see no Orca for 53 on zkillboard.
2017-04-17 12:41 Your skiff loss. Actually had modules tank modules fitted. +1 Damage Control II- good choice. +1 skip the active reppers and use 1 or 2 Shield extenders And Invulnerability II's
two lows, is a mixed bag. Mining boosters, Drone damage Augmenters, Reinforced bulkhead II's
add Shield Extender Rigs, drone rigs. Empty slots leave you at a disadvantage.
It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid.
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Kassimila
Macabre Votum Northern Coalition.
43
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Posted - 2017.06.07 14:39:24 -
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For Orca - Hull tank is best tank. The only thing the orca needs is the ability to fit MJD and Stasis Grappler. It's a large hull, lets treat it that way. |
Do Little
Virgin Plc Evictus.
1266
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Posted - 2017.06.07 16:17:10 -
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Higgs Anchor plus a Prototype cloak will reduce an Orca top speed to 2 m/s. Mine aligned and insta-warp if trouble shows up.
You'll need to make some bookmarks so you can warp directly to the center of the belt and a safe spot where you can hide cloaked.
Personally, given the price of Mexalllon, I'd rather mine Plagioclase, Kernite or Jaspet anomalies in highsec! I suspect the risk/reward calculation is much better.
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