my statement was not directed at you or what you said it was directed at Nevyn Auscent

and thats just part of the problem...why would somebody invest in a carrier for ratting when you could just throw 3-4 ishtars in sites and make same/more isk for fraction of the risk involved...your not removing the current meta only just shifting it

I don't see how these changes were actually thought out that well. The problem will only shift its focus from Carriers and Supers to another ship PVE wise, aside from not actually focusing on what seems to be the problem which seems to be certain Alliances can undock them with impunity for PVE, and as far as PVP it really doesn't make that much sense at all.

Titans and supers used to be expensive and hard to actually obtain unless you were in an Alliance that could actually build them, and it originally took years to actually train for one. With injectors and build costs being so low, that is no longer the case. The changes to fighter sigs was a good call, and meant that their damage could be reduced effectively in both PVE and PVP.

You can no longer AFK rat in either a super or carrier, you have to be present and active to use them. There are other ships that it is not the case, and with a lower cost ship and skill wise you can pretty much rat with impunity, while you are sitting watching something else and not actually paying much attention to EVE at all, except to change sites.

These changes will not really have much affect at all on the PVE structure, because the ones getting the ticks wont actually be affected by it that much, but essentially makes them useless for PVP, unless as stated before they are used in the blob mentality, which isn't really going to change either. The amount of isk and training to use one should actually mean something, and the amount of kills for supers lately isn't showing an overpowered ship type at all. The changes will just make them an overpriced Ship Hauler.

It seems to me that CCP brings in changes like this with ships with no actual plan of what these ships are supposed to achieve, or that actually don't investigate the changes they make as deeply as they should, and keep having to bandaid fix things without actually attacking the problem. As far as the PVE side the problem isn't with the ship , but the the PVE, so why nerf the Ship unless you are incapable of actually fixing the underlining issues, which seems to be the NPC's.

While the ammount of kills for suoercarriers is perhaps nothing to complain about the daily number of losses sure is however. With new stats carriers will be more balanced for pvp around 12-1500 dps with really good tank, application and a jump drive. Sure fighters may be killed or jammed but no ship should be without a counter (all otver ships in the game may be renderd unable to deal damage through ewar aswell). Why shoulda cheap ship (after insurance) such as a carrier be able to single handedly wipe the floor with many small gang comps?

Sure this was fine back in the days when capitals were rare and expensive, now that they can be deployed in mass they should be more balanced to keep other comps viable.

your using the wrong small gang comp then a single carrier cant kill really any well thought out small gang doctrine.... now sure if you have a kitchen sink fleet thats not hard to kill at all

Incursions, bounties and all other faucets are the things you should be looking at to fix the money supply; reduce them and find other ways to reward players. EVE also needs more sinks and greater incentives to fight and lose stuff.

It boggles me how uncreative this solution is.

Factor in now the risk(s) associated with super rating which is quite high, you've now got to then focus in around how larger corporation/alliances/coalitions protect their members within systems. In doing this they, in turn, localise their deployment strategies to ensure players centre around Keepstar(s) for responsive fleet strategies.

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You shouldn't post on the forums, it removes all doubts about the low levels of your intelligence. NPC bounties are by far and away the single largest ISK faucet in the game.

Last month bounty prizes lead to over 69 trillion ISK entering the economy. By comparison incursions lead to just under 10 trillion ISK. In other words, incursions produce 1/7th the amount of ISK that bounty prizes produce. In fact, bounty prizes are 1.6x larger than all other ISK faucets combined. You really come across as an entitled jackass with this post. "Don't nerf my ISK making, literally nerf everyone else's."

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Hi Space Friends,
Coming with our release on Tuesday, weGÇÖre significantly reducing the damage output of Fighters.

Why:
We are making this change because Carriers & Supercarriers are too strong in PvE, specifically anomaly ratting in Nullsec. As you may have seen in the May Monthly Economy Report, there is a significant upward trend in the Money Supply. This is primarily due to NPC Bounties.

This trend is unsustainable. Having such a large ISK faucet is bad for the economy, and this ISK faucet is concentrated to a relatively small number of players.

We also think that Carriers and Supercarriers are a bit too effective in PvP now. This change will significantly change the PvP balance, but weGÇÖre confident that Carriers and Supercarriers will remain powerful options for PvP.

What:

• Light Fighters (Space Superiority): No Change
• Light Fighters (Attack): 20% reduction to Basic Attack and Heavy Rocket Salvo damage.
• Support Fighters: No Change
• Heavy Fighters (Heavy Attack): 10% reduction to Basic Attack and Torpedo Salvo damage.
• Heavy Fighters (Long Range Attack): 30% reduction to Basic Attack damage.
• Heavy Fighters (Shadow): No Change
• NPCs are 15% more likely to shoot at fighters than they are currently.

We will continue to observe the economy after these changes and will make adjustments as necessary to keep it healthy for all our players.