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Cpt WhiteEye
Death Guard's Cull Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2017.06.10 12:34:17 -
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My answer will be simple. I just realise what i need to do now. So at current state i can make 90-140m ticks with my Hel. Lets say 110m avg so i spend a good 2-3 hours ratting and that will make me 330m+If escalation+if faction spawn a little more. I do this every week not so much i know. If they going to nerf it i will probably do it 3-4 hours a week for the same profit. Will the plug the faucet? No.
But i wont stop there. Right after they implement this im going to rat as much as i can. All my free time i will be ratting in my Super and will probably make 10x the amount of isk.
So from myself insted of doing around 500m a week i will be doing 5b a week so CCP will be happy the did nerf it. And it did solve everything. |
Chlorax
W.O.R.M-S.W.A.R.M SPEC OP Privateers
0
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Posted - 2017.06.10 12:34:55 -
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Stop Ruining The Game FFS! |
Zeus Cronus
Liga Freier Terraner Northern Coalition.
14
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Posted - 2017.06.10 12:40:24 -
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I hope CCP realizes that this change does not really address the problems we player currently face most importantly:
a stagnating game.
While the rising ISK from ratting is a problem CCP should address the overall state of the game and I think focus on the "health" of the game not some weird fighter stats. We all now that the current SOV system in combination with citadels and the hard reinforcement and destruction mechanics affect the people overall much more than ISK in the game.
While ISK in the game could lead to problems the current lack of content is killing the game. I think that should be a higher priority and I hope CCP devs will now quickly address SOV and structures and will not wait another year. EVE could be dead by then. |
Doomchinchilla
Collapsed Out Pandemic Legion
191
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Posted - 2017.06.10 12:46:25 -
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Aldent Arkanon wrote:Mariza vonAmdonen wrote:So, CCP shuts down your overpowered ISK printing machines and you start an upheaval. And you people want to co-direct this game.
Daily reminder that a decent sized part of us don't even rat and are pissed because they're trying to "balance" carriers and supers over PvE while screwing over PvP. Yeah. I don't even rat. I just pvp. |
Karina Ivanovich
Collapsed Out Pandemic Legion
236
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Posted - 2017.06.10 12:47:35 -
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Doomchinchilla wrote:Aldent Arkanon wrote:Mariza vonAmdonen wrote:So, CCP shuts down your overpowered ISK printing machines and you start an upheaval. And you people want to co-direct this game.
Daily reminder that a decent sized part of us don't even rat and are pissed because they're trying to "balance" carriers and supers over PvE while screwing over PvP. Yeah. I don't even rat. I just pvp.
Same
Some call me insane. If the universe is sane, then I embrace that label.
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Curant Thanger
Kontained Chaos Blades of Grass
6
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Posted - 2017.06.10 12:52:32 -
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As above, my only real concern with this rebalance is capitals in PVP... Relative to other options carriers will still be better isk generation options, if people are still willing to commit the time and concentration necessary. |
Belthoz
Minimal Kollektiv
0
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Posted - 2017.06.10 12:57:02 -
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Hai CCP
First of all I somewhat agree with those changes and I never krabbed in caps.
The way you communicate with us is just abysmal by any company standard. That 1% of the 1% really shows you can't emphasize with the regular nullsecer and just look at us as numbers. We have endured so many bad changes over the last couple of years always hoping that they will get balanced and redesigned soonGäó to the better. The timing and general language used by you recently shows you have no respect for your paying customers. I won't bother listing all the problems and bugs that got no attention over the years because others have probably said them before me and I'm sure you know about them and chose to ignore fixing/redesigning/whatever them.
I play since 2009 and would like to play in the future, but judging by your business decisions lately you seem to cash out EVE and you're starting with nullsec by depriving us of any motivation and content to do anything more than afk rat.
CCP please don't kill EVE, it's the last standing mmo still worth to play. |
Cricri Amatin
El Ultimo Hombre Goonswarm Federation
33
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Posted - 2017.06.10 13:06:34 -
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So now with 60 pages of replies and X number of deleted posts:
Yeah I read the infamous 1% post on Reddit.
But I would like a formal reply from CCP on all this. |
Sassura
Sassy's Corporation
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Posted - 2017.06.10 13:07:41 -
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Mariza vonAmdonen wrote:So, CCP shuts down your overpowered ISK printing machines and you start an upheaval. And you people want to co-direct this game.
Do you own a carrier? Are you aware of the SP and isk involved in them, or a supercarrier? Are you aware of how easily both of these ships are rendered pretty useless and were already broken? Do you think that if the very known issues with them were also being fixed that people would be happier? Do you think that if CCP took proper measures to fix all the issues involved instead of a nerf to the pvp value of expensive and SP intensive ships that are already broken that people would be happier? Your comment brings very little and shows a lack of awareness. |
Kaze Mester
Ascendance Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2017.06.10 13:11:52 -
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Cricri Amatin wrote:So now with 60 pages of replies and X number of deleted posts:
Yeah I read the infamous 1% post on Reddit.
But I would like a formal reply from CCP on all this.
Replying to a ticket takes months for them, why would they reply to this? |
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Mariza vonAmdonen
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2017.06.10 13:17:36 -
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Doomchinchilla wrote:Aldent Arkanon wrote:Mariza vonAmdonen wrote:So, CCP shuts down your overpowered ISK printing machines and you start an upheaval. And you people want to co-direct this game.
Daily reminder that a decent sized part of us don't even rat and are pissed because they're trying to "balance" carriers and supers over PvE while screwing over PvP. Yeah. I don't even rat. I just pvp.
you mean you dont have your alt down in delve ratting, while you pvp in your super?
I understand that some few might be pissed that this affects pvp too, and rightly so. Although, with the amounts of supers in existence, killing content, that might not be that bad. Still its the PvE loss that caused this big of outcry. |
Casidian Isu
Isu Biotechnology
0
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Posted - 2017.06.10 13:23:24 -
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I think a better change would be to make rats escalate to capitals just as if players would if a solo carrier were drop on them. Instead of nerfimg fighters, make NPCs 60% more likely to agrees them.
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Sassura
Sassy's Corporation
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Posted - 2017.06.10 13:36:36 -
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Mariza vonAmdonen wrote:Doomchinchilla wrote:Aldent Arkanon wrote:Mariza vonAmdonen wrote:So, CCP shuts down your overpowered ISK printing machines and you start an upheaval. And you people want to co-direct this game.
Daily reminder that a decent sized part of us don't even rat and are pissed because they're trying to "balance" carriers and supers over PvE while screwing over PvP. Yeah. I don't even rat. I just pvp. you mean you dont have your alt down in delve ratting, while you pvp in your super? I understand that some few might be pissed that this affects pvp too, and rightly so. Although, with the amounts of supers in existence, killing content, that might not be that bad. Still its the PvE loss that caused this big of outcry.
Supers are not killing content. CCP game mechanics are. |
MItchell Jensen
The Black Widow Company. FUBAR.
103
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Posted - 2017.06.10 13:38:04 -
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I seriously wonder if you guys still think that this is a good idea.
I'm not the 1%. Paying for my PVP will become significantly harder if this goes through.
CCP Dropbear: rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Arahabaki
Blackrise Vanguard
0
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Posted - 2017.06.10 13:41:23 -
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@CCP LARKIN OR WHOEVER
SERIOUS QUESTION. ANY PLANS TO GIVE CITADEL FIGHTER DAMAGE BOUNS OR DRONE DANAGE UPGRADES/RIGS TO COUNTER THIS CHANGE? OR YOU LETTING CITADEL FIGHTER GET THE FULL EFFECT OF NEUTERIBG |
Sexy Damsel
El Cartel. Solyaris Chtonium
4
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Posted - 2017.06.10 13:45:07 -
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So next step merf vindicator? I can get almost 40m a tick. Lol |
Mr Hyde113
368
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Posted - 2017.06.10 13:46:26 -
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Is this a typo? Should be frigate damage reduction not fighter.
*Fades back to the afterlife |
Pentium 4
Good Fight - C U again
1
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Posted - 2017.06.10 13:50:55 -
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The Carrier Ratting and Null mining do need the nerfs, agreed, it's broken and creating inflation. But, the approach taken is what is being criticised. Dont nerf PvP due to PvE.
Here is the simple solution: - Put resistance on rats vs fighters - Put max tick limit
The above will solve the problem without affecting Pvp.
After this, please focus on real issues, i.e - Cancer-Sov - Cancer-Citadel/Structure timers
Delay the Refinery release please. Moon goo is a good content driver, everything you guys touch gets messed since past year.
Fix Cancer-Sov and Cancer-Citadel and then we can go on to other things, create mechanics that enable huge fights between big groups in whatever sec.
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corn holio
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.06.10 13:54:48 -
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Booooooooooo! |
TehHouse
The Walking Deads DARKNESS.
27
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Posted - 2017.06.10 13:55:46 -
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In terms of absolutely terrible ideas, I didn't think you guys would be able to top the dumbing-down of advanced audio. Guess that counts for something. |
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Sassura
Sassy's Corporation
23
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Posted - 2017.06.10 14:01:40 -
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TehHouse wrote:In terms of absolutely terrible ideas, I didn't think you guys would be able to top the dumbing-down of advanced audio. Guess that counts for something.
Oh they did, by adding huge respawn timers to mining anoms which will have a worse impact on everyone in the game except the alliance that mines the most. For me the most terrible idea CCP have ever had is giving players a reason to log on and simply log back off again because their limited play time does not allow them to do the things they log on for.
Fixing rorquals and isk faucets in the worst possible ways, thank you CCP. Why aren't there more focus groups, like the T3's are getting? It's becoming clearer and clearer that the CSM don't really represent the average eve players. Why can't actual eve players help develop ideas that work and test them before more misguided broken crap gets introduced into the game? |
Alia Nadasdy
Imperial's Capsulers
16
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Posted - 2017.06.10 14:13:19 -
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Shame on CCP if you surrender. Good Nerf Return old characters in LORE The game will play with new colors Empire Above All, Joke.
"We are the Harbingers of hope, We are the Sword of the Righteous"
"We are a shadow of the former greatness of the Empire"
Purist Lord Admiral Victor
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Aldent Arkanon
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
24
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Posted - 2017.06.10 14:20:51 -
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Alia Nadasdy wrote:Shame on CCP if you surrender. Good Nerf
Yeah, god forbid that they listen to their playerbase. |
Torrent Rage
Collapsed Out Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2017.06.10 14:23:26 -
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Not a big fan of these changes. Super is going into a keepstar and I unsubbed 5 accounts last night. If anyone wants to come play BDO in a guild made almost entirely of eve players just shoot me a message on discord at TorrentRage#4991. |
Steve Rollard
Zap Blap Logistics Co
1
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Posted - 2017.06.10 14:28:40 -
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Such a massive blow to the PVP viability of carriers and supers, I feel more could be achieved by altering the anoms to have a better resistance to higher DPS boats or a simple minimum site respawn time for x mins after the first rat is popped. |
Rah McGee
achtung partizanen
4
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Posted - 2017.06.10 14:31:05 -
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Aldent Arkanon wrote:Alia Nadasdy wrote:Shame on CCP if you surrender. Good Nerf Yeah, god forbid that they listen to their playerbase.
What is wrong with supers and carriers being nerfed. It is just a disgrace that they don't even need tackle to pvp against subcaps. |
Shalashaska Adam
Partial Safety
201
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Posted - 2017.06.10 14:31:55 -
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CCP Larrikin wrote:Reserved
Fighters are in such a dreadful state I honestly first read the OP as a 20% buff.
"Too strong for PvP", what?
Every change has been awful. The UI is awful, the application is awful, and now a further 20% nerf?
Why did your developers spend so much time making this content, for it to be so carelessly trashed.
Why is it that any half decent player could redesign this in a fair way in an afternoon and do it better.
Whats the most unbelievable is that it takes years to get a 5% heavy missile buff.
Yet this enormous 20% nerf has been pulled out of nowhere, with no thought as to a better way. |
Joco Skljoco
Invictus Origin Brothers in Arms Alliance
2
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Posted - 2017.06.10 14:34:05 -
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CCP Quant recently wrote how supercarrier pilots have 260 million tick.....it is a lie...For your information,because I see that u are incompetent or just a liar with intent,I must to say that possible average thick,for supers(depending on the type)between 90 and 120 mil....So it is not even close to 780 mils per hour that the CCP Quant stated....Multiboxing with Supers/Carriers is impossible...
Whole this nerf for Supers And Carriers is based on CCP Quant's famous 260 mil tick
This changes will hit all but not that top 1% of the top 1% about CCP Quant talking about (Another lie)...Multiboxers with 10+ Roqual accounts will generate to much isk smoothy....Ghoust farming intact....trading manipulators intact.....
CCP told to me that I'm 1% of the top 1% trolololololo, with 90mil tick
U do not punishing exploiting....u are punishing regular players,who play by the rules and u are encourage this guys to do more exploiting Capitals will become useless in pvp...Full PVP fited Archon now have about 800 dps,after nerf will be at level Battlecruiser. Last 5 years u talking about dynamic of PVP...What quality content are made to encourage PVE players to switch to PVP???
CCP has lack of vision,excessive salaries and lazy developers...I'm sick of You |
Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1035
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Posted - 2017.06.10 14:37:37 -
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PvP nerf for a PvE non-problem.
Line members make ISK and people like me who never PvE'd before are probably contributing more to your graphs than the mythical 750 mil supercarrier multiboxxer single ******* guy in the game.
Taking my accounts out.
Citadels, entosisin, plex changes for greater money and now this. I think CCP's managers are just trying to kill their game and cash out. **** em.
Goddess of the IGS
As strength goes.
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Aldent Arkanon
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
25
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Posted - 2017.06.10 14:38:53 -
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Rah McGee wrote:Aldent Arkanon wrote:Alia Nadasdy wrote:Shame on CCP if you surrender. Good Nerf Yeah, god forbid that they listen to their playerbase. What is wrong with supers and carriers being nerfed. It is just a disgrace that they don't even need tackle to pvp against subcaps.
The damage reduction is significant. They're already really easy to jam out or defang, the balancing factor for that in the past was that they at least did respectable damage, now with that being nerfed hard its hard to justify using them at all. Also they do need tackle to PvP against subs unless the subcap pilot(s) are incredibly dumb and cant find the warp button. If a subcap or a subcap fleet isn't tackled they can just leave, its kinda simple. Not to mention that properly fitted 100mn nano cruisers can simply ignore fighters if they have the slightest idea as to how to pilot them properly. |
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