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Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.17 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 17/05/2007 12:13:22
When CCP decided to move the blood raider NPC HQ region from empire to Delve BoB were ****ed off, not really sure why but I'm sure they had good reasons. 10 people in BoB recieved high standings with the blood raider agents to "make up" for this, and it was done via aurora/roleplaying. If you were mythbusting you should mention the rumors that they got a bhaalgorn fleet
The reason we were ****ed off is that we were desparate that delve wouldn't become fountain II i.e. somewhere that random gankers could dock, and we couldn't do anything about it. We like our securable space innit. ....
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HC MasiEEE
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.17 13:46:00 -
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________________________ HC MasiEEE - DICE
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Seleucus
Gallente STK Scientific Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.05.17 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Abbadon
Originally by: AvanCade
Originally by: Gungankllr
Stuff
A year or more ago you were in bob running those 6/10s do not forget. When it suited you, i did not hear you screaming this is unfair?
Your incompetence as a pilot then still shows now. When it suits you, you are happy, when it does not throwing blame at others.
I am sick off lame ass idiots bringing the topic about our credibilty to these forums over and over again. Tell you what grow balls and come and fight us eh, ingame not the forums.
Go back a few months and look on the BoD posts, it may enlighten you.
Just what I was about to say. "BoB never ever fought on the forums".
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Buxaroo
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.17 13:50:00 -
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Edited by: Buxaroo on 17/05/2007 13:49:19
Originally by: Gungankllr
Originally by: DB Preacher /me shrugs
Me, dianabolic and galavet sat down and took a week to look at the map with regards every single aspect of the game at that time and that was the decision we made.
I'm not sure what exactly you are asking with your post except generally trying to call me a liar with no real reasoning behind it.
Do you have direct accusations or are you simply bored?
dbp
Oh, what a surprise, we've gone into "Proof or STFU" mode again.
After everything that's happened over the last three months can you blame anybody for feeling like you guys haven't recieved preferential treatment?
Anybody in an interceptor can fly through Delve and see a complex every couple of jumps.
I remember getting quoted on OMGRAWR about a year ago pointing this out WAY before all these incidents took place.
Quote: Gungankllr > Now I know why BoB is rich, there's a complex in every god damned system in Delve Virtuozzo > hm Virtuozzo > nice region, we'll take it then Ratboy Deblade > where have I heard that before 0.o
Sure, feel free to make fun of everything but the first line, but make sure you read that one.
CCP should have taken an average number of complexes scattered across a region instead of superseeding one region with complexes.
To wit:
If the Guristas have a total of 18 complexes spread across three regions, then each region should have 6 complexes.
If the Blood Raiders maintain soverignity over one region, they should have a total of 6 complexes spread over that one region.
The only time I think that anything should deviate from a specific formulae would be for RP reasons as set by CCP and doccumented in the official backstory.
One thing I would like to see is making complexes destructible, by running the complex then for instance, destroying a control tower at the end or some other trigger.
ISK farming alliances (Regardless whatever they do with the isk at the end) would have to think twice about how they operate if they knew that their 10/10 just got blown up and was in reinforced/offline for a week.
Anyhow, I'd suggest that from now on instead of insisting that people making accusations against provide the burden of proof you take the initiative and do so yourself, because to be quite frank your credibility is lacking as a direct result of current events.
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I have been throughoutt delve, and I don't remember seeing a complex in every system. There are several grouped very close together in a corridor, but thats it. And if BoB got preferrential treatment, why have NPC stations only 3 jumps away AND in some of the same systems as the plexes? Get a ******* clue man.
And with the NPC stations in same systems as the plexes and some only a few jumps away guess what Einstein, other people who are NOT BoB run them, especially now that most of us are on the front lines and all isk farmers are doing them risk free.
Also, not to mention that static complexes are going away....guess all this throws your theory of BoB getting preferential treatment out the door.
Oh, forgot the
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Troubadour
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:00:00 -
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what a boring read.
who cares.
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Gungankllr
Caldari STK Scientific Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
Originally by: Gungankllr
Stuff
A year or more ago you were in bob running those 6/10s do not forget. When it suited you, i did not hear you screaming this is unfair?
Your incompetence as a pilot then still shows now. When it suits you, you are happy, when it does not throwing blame at others.
I am sick off lame ass idiots bringing the topic about our credibilty to these forums over and over again. Tell you what grow balls and come and fight us eh, ingame not the forums.
Actually, just to be correct, I've never run a complex while I was in BoB.
Also, the easiest way to derail a legitimate argument is to debase or defame the author, especially when you have no real counterargument.
if you had bothered to actually read what I had posted instead of becoming defensive and immediately attacking my character, you might have actually understood my point.
But why would you care to? it's so much easier to put a bucket over your head, scream " LALALALALALA" and show everyone your middle fingers.
Which is what you just did.
The origial author made the point that Delve was overseeded with complexes. (If I understood him correctly)
Which is common knowledge. I'm not sure what you're defending there.
CCP came to you guys with an offer to move the Blood Raiders into Delve, which you accepted.
I would be interested in seeing which employees at CCP were responsible for making this overture to you, and who ran the RP aspect of the change.
Not that I'm promoting some huge conspiracy theory, but I would just like to know.
As for the BoB pilot that pointed out that static complexes are going away, what does that have to do with the complexes that were seeded all that time ago?
Absolutely nothing.
And if you cannot see the inherent bonuses in having complexes close to stations...
Anyhow, everyone feel free to continue to flame who I am instead of formulating an intelligent response.
It makes your argument much better.
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Renox
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
t0rfifrans roleplaying a jovian in a jovian newbie frigate dropped a Nibelung T5 mining laser a long time ago, somehow Taggart Transdimensional acquired it from the guy who had been roleplaying with t0rfi in local and CCP forced them to exchange it for a miner II bpo (the first one ingame I believe)
That is the only nibelung that was released, early SA did not have dozens of them spawned for devs to use and cheat with.
I don't know if it was t0r, I do know what happened though. The GM/Dev was messing about in a backwater system in a jovian noob ship and started a bit of spontanious roleplaying with a noob there. After a bit the GM/Dev figured he'd leave a little reward as it had been quite fun and said to the guy that something was awaiting outside the station he was docked it. When the noob undocked it turned out that the GM/Dev had selfdestructed the ship and left the loot for the guy without knowing that the equipment on the ship was vastly superior to anything ingame now or then. The only surviving piece of kit was the mining laser which was the noob jove mining laser.
More then a little surprised by his good fortune the guy contacted the best know industrial corp at the time, TTI. Ragnar bought it for 100mil I believe, a fortune back then.
Taggert were later forced to give it back to the jovians in an event, I don't remember what they got in return, but I am pretty sure the part about TTI having a miner II bpo was just an assumption everyone made, as far as I know we never had one at that time.
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Nero Winger
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:10:00 -
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Edited by: Nero Winger on 17/05/2007 14:11:18 Edited by: Nero Winger on 17/05/2007 14:09:24
Originally by: Gungankllr
Originally by: DB Preacher /me shrugs
Me, dianabolic and galavet sat down and took a week to look at the map with regards every single aspect of the game at that time and that was the decision we made.
I'm not sure what exactly you are asking with your post except generally trying to call me a liar with no real reasoning behind it.
Do you have direct accusations or are you simply bored?
dbp
Oh, what a surprise, we've gone into "Proof or STFU" mode again.
After everything that's happened over the last three months can you blame anybody for feeling like you guys haven't recieved preferential treatment?
Anybody in an interceptor can fly through Delve and see a complex every couple of jumps.
I remember getting quoted on OMGRAWR about a year ago pointing this out WAY before all these incidents took place.
Quote: Gungankllr > Now I know why BoB is rich, there's a complex in every god damned system in Delve Virtuozzo > hm Virtuozzo > nice region, we'll take it then Ratboy Deblade > where have I heard that before 0.o
men u used to be a funny writer, now you sound only bitter tbh
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look ad RAs regions and the RED dots when you klick DED Deadpsace reposrt on map. maybte thats why they call themselve red alliance
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AvanCade
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: AvanCade on 17/05/2007 14:26:00 Open the Map and see how many 6/10s delve? If you are able to count and give me the exact system names Gung.
You never ran a 6/10? Please try to convince someone who was not in bob when you was there. Your points about bob on your arguments was on a personal level. You might wanna re-read what you posted.
If you are so upset that we have x amounts of plexes in delve why don't you come and take the region from us? Wait you can't, you are all about hiding behind the forums.
When you stop crying about how we have everything and you don't, maybe you and your corp and alliance should work harder in securing a region that is beneficial rather then blaming CCP?
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Orange Species
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:32:00 -
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The answer you seek lies within my companion's eyes.
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Mr Abbadon
Svea Rike
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Orange Species The answer you seek lies within my companion's eyes.
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Helen
STK Scientific Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:37:00 -
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Anymore STK posts here and light spanking wearing gimp masks will ensue.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr
CCP came to you guys with an offer to move the Blood Raiders into Delve, which you accepted.
I would be interested in seeing which employees at CCP were responsible for making this overture to you, and who ran the RP aspect of the change.
Not that I'm promoting some huge conspiracy theory, but I would just like to know.
This is just redundant crap , i think ccp should realy put it as a disclaimer for thick headed ppl realy. If you think we or CCP or the pink panther even is cheating go and petion , spreadign some unabcked or unfounded asshattery just makes you look like a tool basicly.
As for the OP (Mr I am a local smacktard who fits stabs on inties and cant even read planet numbers properly) you are just as bitter as he is and if you realy want some why dont you bring it ?
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Herculite
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.17 15:02:00 -
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Trolls must not be fed.
Emo trolls even less so.
Emo Troll.
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Grim Faust
Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.17 15:04:00 -
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I opened this thread thinking I might see Kari Byron in here. Oh how you all failed to deliver. __________________________________________________ I survived CCP eating all my sigs and all I got was a crappy colorful moderator message...
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Gungankllr
Caldari STK Scientific Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.05.17 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Edited by: AvanCade on 17/05/2007 14:26:00 Open the Map and see how many 6/10s delve? If you are able to count and give me the exact system names Gung.
You never ran a 6/10? Please try to convince someone who was not in bob when you was there. Your points about bob on your arguments was on a personal level. You might wanna re-read what you posted.
If you are so upset that we have x amounts of plexes in delve why don't you come and take the region from us? Wait you can't, you are all about hiding behind the forums.
When you stop crying about how we have everything and you don't, maybe you and your corp and alliance should work harder in securing a region that is beneficial rather then blaming CCP?
Yes, I've never run a 6/10 while I was in BoB.
The first time I ran a complex was when I joined CLS in Feythabolis and helped run the 10/10 in GHZ twice.
Next, here is your list of complexes in Delve.
KFIE-Z: 4/10 Z3V-1W: 6/10 A-ELE2: 4/10 NOL-M9: 6/10 HM-XR2: 6/10 AJI-MA: 6/10 Q-HES2: 4/10 IP6V-X: 4/10 Q-O2UL: 6/10 BRQJ-2: 6/10
That's 10 complexes in one region. Compare that to 5 in Venal.
Granted, the ones in Venal are of a higher DED status overall, does it average out? I don't know. I'm sure someone with a spreadsheet will do a study and then we can all argue some more.
I believe that the ability to run more complexes more often give a better average chance for decent loot to drop compared to the higher quality complexes that are less in number.
Feel free to provide evidence that I am incorrect.
And I don't believe that I'm "crying" about anything, I'm merely supporting a point made by multiple pilots concerning your alliance.
I do not believe that most of your success is due to CCP involving themeselves in your affairs, I believe that is due to smart decision making and effective employment of assets.
But please don't delude yourself and think that CCP didn't have a part to play in your place in the world of Eve right now.
A Developer spawned free tech II BPO's for you.
The Development staff came to BoB personally and offered to make your region the land of the Blood Raiders, and gave you the benefits from that partnership.
I don't believe that anybody else in Eve has been afforded opportunities like that.
The fact that you have a unique relationship with the developers of this game concerns me.
I'm a paying subscriber, just as you are.
I just want a level playing field, where I can go with my mates and have a scrap somewhere and know that the developers gave everyone equal treatment, so wins or losses are not colored by predjudice and were predicated on what you did yourself, not how the development staff may or may not have helped one side of the conflict.
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Orange Species
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.17 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr Random Rubbish
Originally by: Helen Anymore STK posts here and light spanking wearing gimp masks will ensue.
Stop posting gungan, you are embarassing yourself, corp and alliance.
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Alice Cholmondeley
Christine.
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Posted - 2007.05.17 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr
Originally by: AvanCade Edited by: AvanCade on 17/05/2007 14:26:00 Open the Map and see how many 6/10s delve? If you are able to count and give me the exact system names Gung.
You never ran a 6/10? Please try to convince someone who was not in bob when you was there. Your points about bob on your arguments was on a personal level. You might wanna re-read what you posted.
If you are so upset that we have x amounts of plexes in delve why don't you come and take the region from us? Wait you can't, you are all about hiding behind the forums.
When you stop crying about how we have everything and you don't, maybe you and your corp and alliance should work harder in securing a region that is beneficial rather then blaming CCP?
Yes, I've never run a 6/10 while I was in BoB.
The first time I ran a complex was when I joined CLS in Feythabolis and helped run the 10/10 in GHZ twice.
Next, here is your list of complexes in Delve.
KFIE-Z: 4/10 Z3V-1W: 6/10 A-ELE2: 4/10 NOL-M9: 6/10 HM-XR2: 6/10 AJI-MA: 6/10 Q-HES2: 4/10 IP6V-X: 4/10 Q-O2UL: 6/10 BRQJ-2: 6/10
That's 10 complexes in one region. Compare that to 5 in Venal.
Granted, the ones in Venal are of a higher DED status overall, does it average out? I don't know. I'm sure someone with a spreadsheet will do a study and then we can all argue some more.
I believe that the ability to run more complexes more often give a better average chance for decent loot to drop compared to the higher quality complexes that are less in number.
Feel free to provide evidence that I am incorrect.
And I don't believe that I'm "crying" about anything, I'm merely supporting a point made by multiple pilots concerning your alliance.
I do not believe that most of your success is due to CCP involving themeselves in your affairs, I believe that is due to smart decision making and effective employment of assets.
But please don't delude yourself and think that CCP didn't have a part to play in your place in the world of Eve right now.
A Developer spawned free tech II BPO's for you.
The Development staff came to BoB personally and offered to make your region the land of the Blood Raiders, and gave you the benefits from that partnership.
I don't believe that anybody else in Eve has been afforded opportunities like that.
The fact that you have a unique relationship with the developers of this game concerns me.
I'm a paying subscriber, just as you are.
I just want a level playing field, where I can go with my mates and have a scrap somewhere and know that the developers gave everyone equal treatment, so wins or losses are not colored by predjudice and were predicated on what you did yourself, not how the development staff may or may not have helped one side of the conflict.
There is no need to purposely defame the author, counterargument or not, if the author is delusional. You are the way you are, you embarrass yourself and everyone associated with you. |
Gungankllr
Caldari STK Scientific Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.05.17 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Orange Species
Originally by: Gungankllr Random Rubbish
Originally by: Helen Anymore STK posts here and light spanking wearing gimp masks will ensue.
Stop posting gungan, you are embarassing yourself, corp and alliance.
And once again, as my parting post, it's far easier to attack someone personally that to refute their claims.
I laid out my argument in a clear, concise manner, without flaming, trolling or attacking anyone personally.
I have yet to see anyone in BoB counter any claim I have made without resorting to the typical "we can't refute anything, so we will deflect the argument by attacking the poster personally" defense.
Dissect my argument and refute the points I have made without attacking my character, or my prowess in-game, and perhaps you will gain some respect on this issue.
I've made some simple statements on the forums that you still haven't made any progress on proving incorrect.
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Orange Species
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.17 15:28:00 -
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your own ceo is telling you to stop, doesnt that tell you something?
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Boliknar
The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.17 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Orange Species
Originally by: Gungankllr Random Rubbish
Originally by: Helen Anymore STK posts here and light spanking wearing gimp masks will ensue.
Stop posting gungan, you are embarassing yourself, corp and alliance.
Why? Are you stating that if he doesn't agree with you he is embarassing himself? That's the height of hubris is it not. I personally think it's embarassing that a large section of the Eve community has decided that they are willing to sacrafice a level playing field as long as their side gets the benefit.
Sad really.
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Timmeh 2000
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.05.17 15:43:00 -
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Allegations of misconduct, cheating or exploits should be directed to the GM support team and not posted on the forums for discussion - as per the forum rules.
Please remain civil and follow the forum rules while posting.
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