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Miki Fin
Gallente Independant Union of Rangers
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Posted - 2007.05.20 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk Well - in the old days there was an alliance. Lets call it under the devs code name: Alliance P
You see - This alliance would have come to the aid of the original poster - and all for the cost of the wardec back.
Unofrtunaly - mindless carebear idiots (as evidenced by several in this thread) who are too cowardly and craven and wont lift a finger to help the OP - got us nerfed.
Ironicaly - the carebears (in this case) are in fact massive griefers.
SKUNK
Lies
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Le Skunk
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.20 09:35:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Miki Fin
Originally by: Le Skunk Well - in the old days there was an alliance. Lets call it under the devs code name: Alliance P
You see - This alliance would have come to the aid of the original poster - and all for the cost of the wardec back.
Unofrtunaly - mindless carebear idiots (as evidenced by several in this thread) who are too cowardly and craven and wont lift a finger to help the OP - got us nerfed.
Ironicaly - the carebears (in this case) are in fact massive griefers.
SKUNK
Lies
Well at least your straight to the point.
No its not lies. My post had two points
1) Would Alliance P have come to the aid of the original poster for the price of the wardec fee:
FACT!
I personally dealt with hundereds of small corps who were wardeccced and paid us the wardec fee to wardec the aggressor. They obvioulsy cant afford merc prices - they are bloody noob corps. I took their money - I placed the wardec - I passed on any intel the sent - I killed the enemy ships
2) Mindless carebear idiots (as evidenced by several in this thread) who are too cowardly and craven and wont lift a finger to help the OP - got us nerfed.
This is more opinion.
Carebear whining got to such a crescendo - at one point every third thread on the fourms was a 'war dec/privateer/boo hoo hoo' thread. CCP threw their 'universe where you can be what you want' marketting patter right out the window and specifically aimed a nerf at an alliance for the first time in their history. The 'back story' invented to cover this nerfing was particulaly shoddy - and the shamefull use of 'Alliance P' terminology - left nobody in any doubt what their intentions were. As has been pointed out its 'their game' so they are at liberty to do this - though I suspect many devs feel a sense of shame at what they collectivly decided.
Also - Im yet to hear of one carebear who has gone to help any other 'wardecced noob corp' type thread. Forum warriors - terrified of loud pew pew noises - but even more terrified of their bank acounts. Cowards - in short
SKUNK
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Major Stormer
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.05.20 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: The Pointless Don't tell me Privateers are still at it after the wardec changes...
LOL - Here is a prime example - Is he flying to the aid of the OP? Is he imparting advice on what to do? Is he sending ISK to aid the fight?
Or is he an cowardly alt - engaging in out of date reflex-trolling?
SKUNK
This is one problem I have with you, you think everyone is out to get you, everyone insulting you is a scared alt.
Anyone who uses the forums half often can tell he isnt a alt, your just parnoid.
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Miki Fin
Gallente Independant Union of Rangers
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Posted - 2007.05.20 09:52:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Miki Fin
Originally by: Le Skunk Well - in the old days there was an alliance. Lets call it under the devs code name: Alliance P
You see - This alliance would have come to the aid of the original poster - and all for the cost of the wardec back.
Unofrtunaly - mindless carebear idiots (as evidenced by several in this thread) who are too cowardly and craven and wont lift a finger to help the OP - got us nerfed.
Ironicaly - the carebears (in this case) are in fact massive griefers.
SKUNK
Lies
Well at least your straight to the point.
No its not lies. My post had two points
1) Would Alliance P have come to the aid of the original poster for the price of the wardec fee:
FACT!
False. "Alliance P" may have made the war dec official but would not have gone out of its way and concentrate firepower on one small corp. They would have shot them if they were passing.
Quote:
2) Mindless carebear idiots (as evidenced by several in this thread) who are too cowardly and craven and wont lift a finger to help the OP - got us nerfed.
This is more opinion.
Carebear whining got to such a crescendo - at one point every third thread on the fourms was a 'war dec/privateer/boo hoo hoo' thread. CCP threw their 'universe where you can be what you want' marketting patter right out the window and specifically aimed a nerf at an alliance for the first time in their history. The 'back story' invented to cover this nerfing was particulaly shoddy - and the shamefull use of 'Alliance P' terminology - left nobody in any doubt what their intentions were. As has been pointed out its 'their game' so they are at liberty to do this - though I suspect many devs feel a sense of shame at what they collectivly decided.
Also - Im yet to hear of one carebear who has gone to help any other 'wardecced noob corp' type thread. Forum warriors - terrified of loud pew pew noises - but even more terrified of their bank acounts. Cowards - in short
SKUNK
I haven't seen you offer either
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000Hunter000
Gallente Magners Marauders
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Posted - 2007.05.20 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Dangerous Daswe Hey
Am still a noob compared to most players, only been playing for a few months and the corp am in have just had war declared on them and it's completely unjustified, they said it's for fun. We're just a small mining corp trying to make some money and now we're lock in our station because we have no real pvp players. Anyone got any ideas to help us?
Hello, and welcome to EVE
I know it's a pain and tbh i never liked that this is possible, but it is part of EVE and what makes it great, so u better get used to it, do as DS says, get a cheap alt in a cheap frig, get a couple a guys together who do the same and attack them, hell u could learn a few basic skills and even stand a chance (use a couple a dampners and ecm and stuff and u might even ruin their day ) CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
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Bienurdau Hywoaf
Minmatar Matari Holo News Network
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Posted - 2007.05.20 10:21:00 -
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This is one reason EVE's population is declining I think, war is never fun, and shouldn't be viewed that way.
There are a few things you might could do:
1. Set really log skill trains :), then log in and just sit in station so they circle it. Don't undock just sit in the station. Don't talk to them in local, don't accept PMs, and don't reply to any mails.
2. Have one guy the CEO or other prominent corp member stay in a station. Reposition your other people elsewhere, 10 to 20 jumps away. Have the decoy log on, he can chat friendly with the guys in local. They'll probably try to goad him out, but just stay there in the station. The other guys should mine while the decoy keeps the griefers occupied.
3. If you have skills for trading, research and manufacturing at range, you can just set up courier mission contracts to get your minerals hauled that you buy to where you need it. Then build without trouble :)
4. You might could hire some mercenaries however given the cost of war declares this won't be cheap and really depending on who you hire may or may not be effective.
You can look in crime and punishment forums for a list of mercenary corps if you want to try that option. Idea: Treaties Idea: Jump Rigs |
Hennry Fromer
Gallente radiated space gerbils
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Posted - 2007.05.20 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Miki Fin [
False. "Alliance P" may have made the war dec official but would not have gone out of its way and concentrate firepower on one small corp. They would have shot them if they were passing.
I haven't seen you offer either
That from your vast experiance in the privateers no doubt? If they were in the area we were in they would get shot at like all the other flashy red things.
Now, Stop hijacking this guys thread for a ****ing match.
Offer help, advice or start your own thread if you are going to go off topic.
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The Lesson
Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd
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Posted - 2007.05.20 10:43:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: The Pointless Don't tell me Privateers are still at it after the wardec changes...
LOL - Here is a prime example - Is he flying to the aid of the OP? Is he imparting advice on what to do? Is he sending ISK to aid the fight?
Or is he an cowardly alt - engaging in out of date reflex-trolling?
SKUNK
The Pointless is not an alt. But I am. Think before you post in future.
--------------------------- School is in session
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Miki Fin
Gallente Independant Union of Rangers
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Posted - 2007.05.20 11:32:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Hennry Fromer
Originally by: Miki Fin [
False. "Alliance P" may have made the war dec official but would not have gone out of its way and concentrate firepower on one small corp. They would have shot them if they were passing.
I haven't seen you offer either
That from your vast experiance in the privateers no doubt? If they were in the area we were in they would get shot at like all the other flashy red things.
Now, Stop hijacking this guys thread for a ****ing match.
Offer help, advice or start your own thread if you are going to go off topic.
You know if you actually read the thread and what I actually wrote, you wouldn't have got your panties in a twist.
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.05.20 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 20/05/2007 11:45:48
Originally by: Miki Fin False. "Alliance P" may have made the war dec official but would not have gone out of its way and concentrate firepower on one small corp. They would have shot them if they were passing.
QFT. I also prefer the "get frig gangs and fight" approach. With any luck you guys will have some good fun. Oh and also make sure to watch local for hostiles entering system. ____________
DubanFP > where ever there is a player that's getting too rich, wherever there's an industrial with too much loot, wherever there is a noob with too much smack we'll be there... |
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Xonkra
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Posted - 2007.05.20 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk Well - in the old days there was an alliance. Lets call it under the devs code name: Alliance P
You see - This alliance would have come to the aid of the original poster - and all for the cost of the wardec back.
Unofrtunaly - mindless carebear idiots (as evidenced by several in this thread) who are too cowardly and craven and wont lift a finger to help the OP - got us nerfed.
Ironicaly - the carebears (in this case) are in fact massive griefers.
SKUNK
QFT
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.20 12:37:00 -
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2 choices really: 1. Do we fight back somehow? 2. Go somewhere else, and DO NOT give them any kills.
Get everyone in T1 stuff and fit a LOT of dampeners and ECM. Take your tips from EVE-University; they get 30 n00bs up with frigs fitted with damps and use a good FC to annoy whoever is assinine enough to bother them.(from what I hear) Talk to some PvP corp or mercs and try to hire a decent FC for an op or two. All sorts of good suggestions here in this thread, one thing is for sure, do NOT EVER pay anyone off to drop a Dec.
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BluOrange
Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.20 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf
This is one reason EVE's population is declining I think, war is never fun, and shouldn't be viewed that way.
Personally, I likes the pretty asplosions
Seriously, spaceship fights is a pretty important part of the game. Which is not to deny the lameness of griefer wardecs like this one. Perhaps the people who claim to be serious about highsec PVP can join alliances with industrial corps. Then again, my limited experience with highsec PVP has been pretty disappointing. (Why bother organizing a fleet battle when you can lag to death in highsec?)
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There are a few things you might could do:
1. Set really log skill trains :), then log in and just sit in station so they circle it. Don't undock just sit in the station. Don't talk to them in local, don't accept PMs, and don't reply to any mails.
2. Have one guy the CEO or other prominent corp member stay in a station. Reposition your other people elsewhere, 10 to 20 jumps away. Have the decoy log on, he can chat friendly with the guys in local. They'll probably try to goad him out, but just stay there in the station. The other guys should mine while the decoy keeps the griefers occupied.
3. If you have skills for trading, research and manufacturing at range, you can just set up courier mission contracts to get your minerals hauled that you buy to where you need it. Then build without trouble :)
4. You might could hire some mercenaries however given the cost of war declares this won't be cheap and really depending on who you hire may or may not be effective.
You can look in crime and punishment forums for a list of mercenary corps if you want to try that option.
That's some really good advice. As a trainee instructor in a military academy, any advice that I would give is bound to be hopelessly biased ------ Agony Unleashed is recruiting. |
w0rmy
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.05.20 13:01:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Ikasu Yes because, god forbid, they'd like to play the game in a way that they find fun.
Yeah! Screw playing the game in the manner it was designed! The rest of EVE and CCP should cateer to my desires!!!!1111oneone1
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Ralara
Caldari Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.20 13:04:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf
This is one reason EVE's population is declining I think, war is never fun, and shouldn't be viewed that way.
i thought it was growing?
Real men CORPSE-TANK. |
Ling Xiao
Prism Project Technologies
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Posted - 2007.05.20 13:07:00 -
[46]
Jenny Spitfire should be here any minute now __________ If you think the game is rigged, why are you still playing? |
w0rmy
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.05.20 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf
This is one reason EVE's population is declining I think, war is never fun, and shouldn't be viewed that way.
The guy is as he says, a six month old character, whats a 6month old clone cost? T1 fit some friggys, and for less that 10million, the guy will have more fun that hes ever had mining.
Hell, ill give him the 10million so he can go and do it!
Whats the worst that can happen? He gets podded 100 times and looses... nothing, but in the process learns soo much.
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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KenDoll
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Posted - 2007.05.20 13:12:00 -
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think there need's to be some kind of penaulty when declaring war on people with High security status and standing with concord.
just my opinion of course, but bribe's under the table for them to look the other way slaughtering ships in policed area's is a stupid mechanic to begin with.
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Ling Xiao
Prism Project Technologies
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Posted - 2007.05.20 15:15:00 -
[49]
Originally by: KenDoll think there need's to be some kind of penaulty when declaring war on people with High security status and standing with concord.
just my opinion of course, but bribe's under the table for them to look the other way slaughtering ships in policed area's is a stupid mechanic to begin with.
It's not a "bribe" and it's not "under the table", war declarations are a recognised political system from the Yulai Convention. They are there as a way for rival corporations to resolve their differences legally. __________ If you think the game is rigged, why are you still playing? |
Istoledat
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Posted - 2007.05.20 15:34:00 -
[50]
disband the corp and recreate it with a slightly different name. |
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Telkanes Serkant
Caldari Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.05.20 16:34:00 -
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I admit it I always liked Privateers although it was a bloody irritation to be ganked in Highsec......It was fun :)
I was sorry to see you guys get nerfed, but The power of "Risk Averse" people is strong in CCP's wallet :)
-Telk
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.05.20 16:57:00 -
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There is no way to avoid pvp 100%. The best option is to learn how to fight back. A bunch of T1 frigates can take down a BS in less than 30 seconds, even with low skilled pilots. Create some alts to move the supplies around and stock-pile a fleet of T1 frigates. If you are gallente, Incursus is a good choice... or kestrels for the caldari dudes.
The setups are going to be identical, guns or misiles on the high, ab and whatever on the meds, dmg modes on the lows, pure gankage. Figure out a standard "war setup" that all members on the corp could use, fit the war ships and place them in corp hangar...in big quantities.
If you need help with the supply of ships, ammo and weapons, post a message on the forums. There are lots of industrialists out there than can equip you with everything you need for a few iskies. I know, I have like a thousand frigates in corp hangar myself.
In short, gang up, undock and start calling your primary target!
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Le Skunk
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.20 17:09:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Major Stormer This is one problem I have with you, you think everyone is out to get you, everyone insulting you is a scared alt. Anyone who uses the forums half often can tell he isnt a alt, your just parnoid.
Well i use the forums half often and Its a name i recognise but only from recently. MANY people use alts on these forums - often in fear that we would have wardec them for saying something (never did afaik). The rest of my post stands - he was out of date reflex trolling - he isnt providing any advice to the OP in answer to his question. So whats the point of the post.
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.20 17:14:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Miki Fin
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Miki Fin
Originally by: Le Skunk Well - in the old days there was an alliance. Lets call it under the devs code name: Alliance P
You see - This alliance would have come to the aid of the original poster - and all for the cost of the wardec back.
Unofrtunaly - mindless carebear idiots (as evidenced by several in this thread) who are too cowardly and craven and wont lift a finger to help the OP - got us nerfed.
Ironicaly - the carebears (in this case) are in fact massive griefers.
SKUNK
Lies
Well at least your straight to the point.
No its not lies. My post had two points
1) Would Alliance P have come to the aid of the original poster for the price of the wardec fee:
FACT!
False. "Alliance P" may have made the war dec official but would not have gone out of its way and concentrate firepower on one small corp. They would have shot them if they were passing.
Quote:
2) Mindless carebear idiots (as evidenced by several in this thread) who are too cowardly and craven and wont lift a finger to help the OP - got us nerfed.
This is more opinion.
Carebear whining got to such a crescendo - at one point every third thread on the fourms was a 'war dec/privateer/boo hoo hoo' thread. CCP threw their 'universe where you can be what you want' marketting patter right out the window and specifically aimed a nerf at an alliance for the first time in their history. The 'back story' invented to cover this nerfing was particulaly shoddy - and the shamefull use of 'Alliance P' terminology - left nobody in any doubt what their intentions were. As has been pointed out its 'their game' so they are at liberty to do this - though I suspect many devs feel a sense of shame at what they collectivly decided.
Also - Im yet to hear of one carebear who has gone to help any other 'wardecced noob corp' type thread. Forum warriors - terrified of loud pew pew noises - but even more terrified of their bank acounts. Cowards - in short
SKUNK
I haven't seen you offer either
Utter and total ignoarance. Better then just shouting 'lies!' though
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False. "Alliance P" may have made the war dec official but would not have gone out of its way and concentrate firepower on one small corp. They would have shot them if they were passing.
So you are saying that destroying the 'griefers' ships all over empire, restricting their movement across empire - making it unsafe for them to carry out their normal activities isnt coming to the small corps aid? Also - if a small corp passed me intel - It was posted in alliance mail and usually acted on. I personaly went many jumps out of my way specificaly to help people camped in stations. I know of many wardecs against samll corps that were dropped due to alliance P's intervention - while you were all tap tap tapping away your anger on the forums.
Quote: I haven't seen you offer either
Well - in case its escaped your notice - whining carebears like you got 'Alliance P' nerfed - which meant we were unable to offer cost price wardecs to those in trouble. Prior to the nerf - thats what we were there for.
The real life equivalent is A God leaning in out of the skys and squishing Michael Knight The A-Team, and the Equaliser all in one go. (well they arnt real life but you know what i mean)
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.20 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: The Lesson My first post in this thread was not deliberately designed to anger nor insult. I was pretty much asking whether Privateers were involved. Before I started this game, I was told that reputation meant everything in this game, so... what did you expect? You built up that reputation yourself.
Incorrect - The reputation was formed about us by people who had never flown with us - had never hired us - had no idea their CEOs were activly paying us - and were not privy to the hundereds of convos from small corps wanting us to help them.
It is your fault for taking a biggoted opinion as fact. Ive made it clear many times on these forums what went on in reality. People wont read.
SKUNK
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Tortun Nahme
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Posted - 2007.05.20 18:09:00 -
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You have to admit the sheer volume of ignorant responses on the forum by privateer members hasn't exactly "aided" your reputation
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Le Skunk
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.20 20:14:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Le Skunk on 20/05/2007 20:14:04 Edited by: Le Skunk on 20/05/2007 20:13:16
Originally by: Tortun Nahme You have to admit the sheer volume of ignorant responses on the forum by privateer members hasn't exactly "aided" your reputation
Well - Ive taken an active interest in every privateer related thread. I can say that appart from a small percentage - Id be hard pushed to find an ignorant post by a privateer member (regarding the alliance at least). I gone to great lenght to in general argue coherently and give everyone who bothers to post a response (apart from when im drunk). I still am doding when someone in this thread - for no reason - bring us back up again.
In fact new members were asked as one of our 'three rules' - no mouthing off on the forums. IE going overboard.
We podded 10 % of the entire gamebase. Thats where the reputation starts. Staring at a clone screen thinking WTF - who did that! Out of that 10 you probably got 2% who are sore losers. Theres an instant howl squad for the forums. Forum pandamonium = threat to CCP wallet = Nerf.
SKUNK
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.05.20 20:33:00 -
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Heh I'll be honest, I've never had a problem with privateers myself, even when I wasn't in a npc corp. And "recent" forum behavior has been decent.
But even as far back as a month ago it could get pretty hostile
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CrestoftheStars
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.05.20 20:53:00 -
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patition it under harasment. and hope that a gm jumps them:P unlikely, but this IS what it is... wardec'en a corp for NO reason at all, it's just wierd that the universe don't do anything about that
although there is properly nothing to do about it for you ___________________________________________ Humans take everything that is beautiful and sweet and turn it into something horrifying and ugly.
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CrestoftheStars
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.05.20 20:55:00 -
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Edited by: CrestoftheStars on 20/05/2007 20:54:40 hmm trolling and trying to justifice it....
but still mostly just trolling..
but he got a point.. you should try to post the name of the corp and maybe some one will aid you
peace out cots
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Miki Fin
Originally by: Le Skunk Well - in the old days there was an alliance. Lets call it under the devs code name: Alliance P
You see - This alliance would have come to the aid of the original poster - and all for the cost of the wardec back.
Unofrtunaly - mindless carebear idiots (as evidenced by several in this thread) who are too cowardly and craven and wont lift a finger to help the OP - got us nerfed.
Ironicaly - the carebears (in this case) are in fact massive griefers.
SKUNK
Lies
Well at least your straight to the point.
No its not lies. My post had two points
1) Would Alliance P have come to the aid of the original poster for the price of the wardec fee:
FACT!
I personally dealt with hundereds of small corps who were wardeccced and paid us the wardec fee to wardec the aggressor. They obvioulsy cant afford merc prices - they are bloody noob corps. I took their money - I placed the wardec - I passed on any intel the sent - I killed the enemy ships
2) Mindless carebear idiots (as evidenced by several in this thread) who are too cowardly and craven and wont lift a finger to help the OP - got us nerfed.
This is more opinion.
Carebear whining got to such a crescendo - at one point every third thread on the fourms was a 'war dec/privateer/boo hoo hoo' thread. CCP threw their 'universe where you can be what you want' marketting patter right out the window and specifically aimed a nerf at an alliance for the first time in their history. The 'back story' invented to cover this nerfing was particulaly shoddy - and the shamefull use of 'Alliance P' terminology - left nobody in any doubt what their intentions were. As has been pointed out its 'their game' so they are at liberty to do this - though I suspect many devs feel a sense of shame at what they collectivly decided.
Also - Im yet to hear of one carebear who has gone to help any other 'wardecced noob corp' type thread. Forum warriors - terrified of loud pew pew noises - but even more terrified of their bank acounts. Cowards - in short
SKUNK
___________________________________________ Humans take everything that is beautiful and sweet and turn it into something horrifying and ugly.
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