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OverKill
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Posted - 2004.01.07 12:41:00 -
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Good Afternoon Fellow EVE Account Holders,
Recently, a rash of attacks have been acredited to the name OverKill and I felt it best that these were addressed to alleviate any further confusion.
The individual known as OverKill who flies under the m0o banner has his/her name spelt with a ZERO and no the traditional O.
Whether it is a blatent attempt of a smear campaign in a game, which supposidly does not allow duplicate identities, has yet to be seen.
I felt it was my duty to inform those who are of good standing towards the Hadean Drive Yards, and those who may have suffered under this individuals attention, that I am not this individual nor is his name connected with me in any way.
I have no left the Drive Yards, nor will I ever do so for as long as I play EVE.
Should you be attacked by this individual please double check the spelling and make sure its a ZERO and not an O.
Respectfully, Michael "OverKill" Carter <--- The real OK Chief Executive Officer Hadean Drive Yards
- [email protected] - http://www.hadean.org
Chief Executive Officer - Hadean Drive Yards |
Verdone
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Posted - 2004.01.07 13:21:00 -
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Will do ;)
And damned proud! |
Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.07 13:26:00 -
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0verkill is your alt, admit it! ------
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Absurd
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Posted - 2004.01.07 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: Absurd on 07/01/2004 13:31:58 Well I am pretty sure that he had no intentions of trying to get you in trouble with simular name.
But I bet you will petiton anyways and you probably did right away you found out.
Would be funny if he was older than you and the GM¦s would then change your name to something else.
Perhaps Whiningbastard fits you dont you think?
Btw, zero should not be mistaken for the letter O and so in my opinion there is no harm done.
Perhaps Maud dip, Muad dip, Muaddip and mauddip should all have their names changed as well since one of the dip¦s will prolly send in a petition now
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.01.07 13:34:00 -
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lol funneh thread!
I guiss your just going to have to live with the fact that some peoples names resemble yours closely and they do bad things =P
Wait im getting a cracing of some sorts...
oh i know what it is...its the craving to make an alt called Overkil and use it to rob corps =P
Originally by: cashman It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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Absurd
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Posted - 2004.01.07 13:44:00 -
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Quote: lol funneh thread!
I guiss your just going to have to live with the fact that some peoples names resemble yours closely and they do bad things =P
Wait im getting a cracing of some sorts...
oh i know what it is...its the craving to make an alt called Overkil and use it to rob corps =P
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Taiza
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Posted - 2004.01.07 13:57:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Absurd on 07/01/2004 13:31:58 Well I am pretty sure that he had no intentions of trying to get you in trouble with simular name.
But I bet you will petiton anyways and you probably did right away you found out.
Would be funny if he was older than you and the GM¦s would then change your name to something else.
Perhaps Whiningbastard fits you dont you think?
Btw, zero should not be mistaken for the letter O and so in my opinion there is no harm done.
Perhaps Maud dip, Muad dip, Muaddip and mauddip should all have their names changed as well since one of the dip¦s will prolly send in a petition now
First of all, zero (0) and a great O looking very similar, in the game font.
Second, Overkill (with a great O :)is in game since june, "Zero"kill just since august. So Overkill has a good chance, if he would write a petition (what he didn¦t wrote).
Both is very easy to proof with the game mechanism.
So your statement is, mmh, let me say "absurd" :)
------------------ Greetings Taiza CEO of Starship Fellows ------------------
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Absurd
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Posted - 2004.01.07 14:19:00 -
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What statement is that?
The one where I wrote that it would be funny if the original poster would be younger?
Not a statement.
Or perhaps where i wrote that zero should not be taken for capital O?
If the seccond one would be a statement I would have written that zero cant be mistaken for capital O.
The former is my opinion the latter is if I had stated it so.
Also I never said anything about who of them would be made first, I simply made a joke about the situation.
So what statement are you talking about Taiza?
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OverKill
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Posted - 2004.01.07 14:27:00 -
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Edited by: OverKill on 07/01/2004 14:29:13 Gentlemen,
Regardless of your opinions allow me to clarify, the statement was meant to be informative.
In addition, I sincerely doubt that the age of that account is older than this one considering that I have had this name since pre-alpha and have been using it in game since beta phase 1.
Anyways, I have attempted to clarify a growing problem and believe I have done so, at least to those silent readers who have been involved.
Regards, OK
- [email protected] - http://www.hadean.org
Chief Executive Officer - Hadean Drive Yards |
Artur Hawkwing
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Posted - 2004.01.07 14:34:00 -
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I think the best solution in this case would be to do a player wipe on your character Overkill, as you are a nub.
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OverKill
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Posted - 2004.01.07 14:38:00 -
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Artur Hawking? Decendant of Steven Hawking? Look bub, sit in that chair and stick with Quantum Sciences and judge ye not, noob
Regards, OK [email protected] - http://www.hadean.org
Chief Executive Officer - Hadean Drive Yards |
OverKill
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Posted - 2004.01.07 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: OverKill on 07/01/2004 15:39:15 You know, I did enquire to CCP about the reasoning for this being allowed and whether or not it could be changed.
They basically told me that they didn't view it as harassment and that I could contact the other player and request them to change their name, or accept a name change myself.
My question to everyone is, would it not be construed as unintentional harassment if everytime this player killed someone they automatically assumed it was OverKill (spelt with the O and not the zero) who had done it? As was said before, it is NOT easy to tell the difference between a zero and an O when used in the context of a name such as 0verKill (at least in game text).
This not only affects me but those within the Hadean Drive Yards as we have been placed at -10.0 standings for various victem's corps in addition to having received evemails in the past of "Why did you kill me, I didn't do anything to you" etc.
Blatent impersonation or not, it is still a sad state of affairs when this type of behavoir is allowed, ESPECIALLY since the game was originally designed to have ONE NAME per universe.
Regards, OK AKA WhiningBastard, cousin of SmugBastard (Absurd) [email protected] - http://www.hadean.org
Chief Executive Officer - Hadean Drive Yards |
Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.01.07 15:39:00 -
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why dont you accept a name change? Seems much easier then all this hassle.
This is not a hijack
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OverKill
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Posted - 2004.01.07 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: OverKill on 07/01/2004 15:43:15 That IS an option, however being that this has been my name (registered on the EVE forums and later in game) since before EVE was even released to the public for alpha and beta testing I feel that I shouldn't HAVE to.
I even tried to contact this person when I was made aware of it a couple of months ago and my communiques went unanswered. So I know that option is a dead end.
Regards, OK [email protected] - http://www.hadean.org
Chief Executive Officer - Hadean Drive Yards |
Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.01.07 15:46:00 -
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Perhaps he would change his name for a battle ship or two, wont know unless you ask him Spawn of the Devil
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0verkill
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Posted - 2004.01.07 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: 0verkill on 07/01/2004 15:57:28 Hello Overkill, I assure you there was no intent to do anything to your name when I made this character, as it was my first and only character.
I have never recieved any message from you and would have answered had I recieved one.
I have never pretended to be you nor do I want to. However for the right price I would be up for a name change. 0verkill Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.01.07 16:18:00 -
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Someone is banable the moment he tries to impersonate someone, atleast CCP helped me greatly in the case where some ass named his character DREAMW0RKS with the zero like he is, and stole ore and said that it was in name of the federation i was in at that time...
Except that it shows that retarded people are allowed to play eve, its also very pathetic and im glad CCP reacted so well on it back then and understood this point.
If this 0verkill doesn't impersonate you, there is no problem and only a problem with people who cannot check character names with the ingame people and places tool... __________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |
OverKill
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Posted - 2004.01.07 16:28:00 -
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Sir,
I had first attempted to contact you back when you had announced yourself (right after I made a jestful eve-online forum post about the mini-me and wishing you good luck) and this email was never answered so I stopped trying after the second email.
Unfortunately I do not believe in extortion and will not pay any ransom money for my character name.
Would not the fact that you just solicited a ransom fee from me for knowingly holding a name blatently similar to my own in terms of game font not constitute malicious intent?
There will be no ransom sir.
Michael "OverKill" Carter Chief Executive Officer Hadean Drive Yards
- [email protected] - http://www.hadean.org
Chief Executive Officer - Hadean Drive Yards |
DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.01.07 16:32:00 -
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Ransom?
He has a half year old character, its not more than logical that if you want him to change his name and want to settle it with him you should pay for all this trained time. __________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |
0verkill
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Posted - 2004.01.07 16:34:00 -
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Actually it was more of a joke. I have never pretended to be you, and did not even know that you existed till I posted about becoming a pirate, which by the way was after a couple months of playing.
I do not intend to extort you unless it be at a gate so that you do not lose your ship and precious clone. 0verkill Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you.
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OverKill
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Posted - 2004.01.07 16:40:00 -
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Edited by: OverKill on 07/01/2004 16:46:47 Whatever you say, Zero-verkill,
I would like to point out though that talk is cheap, and I think that Scorpion is a little too much machine for you.
Regards, OK [email protected] - http://www.hadean.org
Chief Executive Officer - Hadean Drive Yards |
Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.01.07 16:43:00 -
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Quote: Someone is banable the moment he tries to impersonate someone, atleast CCP helped me greatly in the case where some ass named his character DREAMW0RKS with the zero like he is, and stole ore and said that it was in name of the federation i was in at that time...
....If this 0verkill doesn't impersonate you, there is no problem and only a problem with people who cannot check character names with the ingame people and places tool...
There's the rub. If he was telling his victims that it was a friendly podkilling from HDY, or some such, Overkill would have a strong case. If it just so happens that he has a similar name .. well, bad luck. But then again, given that the name's not a particular unique one, not really all that bad luck - someone was gonna hit on it sooner or later.
_______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age." |
Entheos
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Posted - 2004.01.07 16:43:00 -
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I don't post very often to these boards, but I do read them intently, and have been doing so since Beta 4, but I felt that this issue was too serious to sit idly by and let the good name and reputation of a friend and corp-mate be destroyed in this community. Therefore I'm going to put my .02 ISK in in defense of Overkill.
I see that M0O and the other "pirates" have begun the new year on a bad note and decided to add yet another tactic to their arsenal of griefer tactics - Identity Theft. CCP, Take note of what I am about to say, because if you don't heed my warning, you will not HAVE a game to support.
I believe that you are all missing the point here, though it seems that it is exactly what (Zero)verkill and M0O would have you do. Note the response from the PC-Rats and their corporations on this matter - Overkill, CEO of Hadean Drive Yards, who has been involved with this game and this community throughout all phases of it's testing, and has owned the handle "Overkill" on these boards for several years now, is having his reputation within this community destroyed because a PC-Rat decides to use yet another exploit of the naming policies present within this game to impersonate him in the game, commiting acts of Piracy, griefing, and blackmail, and then OPENLY blackmails him within this thread that he will continue this campaign unless he is "Compensated" for his changing his name.
I'm not a lawyer, or a member of Law Enforcement, mind you, but even a blind deaf and dumb person could plainly see that this is a case of Identity theft, Blackmail, and Extortion. All felony offences under most international statutes. CCP, I think that you need to take a stand on this issue and treat it as would any governing body and make this case an example that this must stop here and now. This is no different than someone hacking an account and taking it and commiting corporate theft or wanton mass-destruction within the game.
I'd like to hear from a GM on this issue at least, if not Hellmar, Pann, and the developers at CCP, who've developed an excellent simulation of real life, IMHO...even the negatives.
What Say you, Crowd Control Productions, on this issue...your player community is listening intently.
Overkill, I think that I speak for all of us at HDY that you have nothing to worry about, Sir. We have your back.
As for you, (Zero)verkill, you have the power to do the RIGHT thing in this community and change your in-game handle. If it was NOT your intention to cause harm to Overkill's reputation when you created your character, as you have CLEARLY stated above in your response to this thread, Quote: I assure you there was no intent to do anything to your name when I made this character, as it was my first and only character.
then petition CCP to have your name changed WITHOUT the "compensation" you and your corp-mates (OmniWar and the rest of M0O) have asked for within your response. Quote: Omniwar writes: "Perhaps he would change his name for a battle ship or two, wont know unless you ask him "
Talk is cheap...Put your Balls on the table and do the right thing, (Zero)verkill.
To the rest of the community (and you know who you are), Think on this quote for a while: Quote: It is better to keep quiet and be thought of as a fool then to speak and remove all doubts.
If you have some wise-ass remark to say, do it somewhere else. www.hadean.org
Captain Mikhail "Entheos" Rostakovich CO, Special Operations |
Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.01.07 16:48:00 -
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Yes, our new plan is to steal the identities of people in Eve! Mwhahaha, next year we are stealing firstborn children and after that, your mortal souls.
Please.. ------
ROBBLE ROBBLE |
Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.01.07 16:49:00 -
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Quote: I'm not a lawyer, or a member of Law Enforcement, mind you, but even a blind deaf and dumb person could plainly see that this is a case of Identity theft, Blackmail, and Extortion.
Wrong, wrong, and possibly correct.
There's a fellow lives across the country from me who has exactly the same name as me, and has a criminal record. That does not constitute identity theft by any stretch of the imagination, because he's never claimed to be me. He just happens to have the same name.
_______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age." |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.07 16:52:00 -
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I wonder if Claire Calvert will join m0o.......
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
0verkill
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Posted - 2004.01.07 17:01:00 -
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I HAVE NEVER PRETENDED TO BE OverKill
The little extortion comment was a joke and I never thought that anyone would pay to have my name changed as I am not trying to ruin anyones rep. Also, if m0o wanted to steal your names I am sure that they would not spend months playing legit then some time out in little pirate corps and in sinster to then move over to m0o and trash your reputation. My avatar looks nothing like you, and the "k" in 0verkill is not a capital like in OverKill.
I am sorry about the naming mixup but i like my name and dont feel that I should be forced to change it as I am dong nothing wrong.
0verkill Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you.
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Absurd
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Posted - 2004.01.07 17:04:00 -
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LOL, are you really saying that m0o had this all planned since august and they only took 0verkill in their ranks few days ago?
I think you watch to much TV
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.07 17:18:00 -
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I hope that 0verkill's avatar is older than Overkills. What would happen then?
Hint: Something between zero and nothing.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.01.07 17:51:00 -
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please keep it clean
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |
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