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Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
1247
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Posted - 2012.01.01 18:39:00 -
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As CCP Soundwave said he'll bring that into the game, (legally killing pods that have GCC) now wouldn't that bring much more fun into Hulkaggeddon ?
Of course he gave no timeframe ... and i'm not even asking for any, but i'm asking if it couldn't be done just for this one week during Hulkaggeddon ?
Like ... CONCORD realizes how it can't do anything about Hulkaggeddon, so they stretch the laws out a bit to even the playground ... :)
And no ganker can tell me it wouldn't spice up their lives a bit... :) Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
zatazon
Z's Corp
13
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Posted - 2012.01.01 23:43:00 -
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On a slightly side note, has the dates for hulkageddon been released or is it still TBA? |
Cipher Jones
287
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Posted - 2012.01.01 23:56:00 -
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The main problem being that to pod someone that has any sort of clue you need have a bubble or specifically fitted ship.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4209
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Posted - 2012.01.02 00:03:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:The main problem being that to pod someone that has any sort of clue you need have a bubble or specifically fitted ship. GǪbut on the other hand, during an event such as hulkageddon, you'll have a fair chance of figuring out beforehand where to bring such a ship for some extra pod goodness. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
2676
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Posted - 2012.01.02 00:22:00 -
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I am impartial to this idea, because its so easy to gcc somone who doesnt have a clue to how the system works and this could lead to bad new player epxerinces
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Cipher Jones
287
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Posted - 2012.01.02 00:25:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:The main problem being that to pod someone that has any sort of clue you need have a bubble or specifically fitted ship. GǪbut on the other hand, during an event such as hulkageddon, you'll have a fair chance of figuring out beforehand where to bring such a ship for some extra pod goodness.
If I were a total ******* loser and wanted to participate in mass griefing, yes.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
126
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Posted - 2012.01.02 00:26:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:The main problem being that to pod someone that has any sort of clue you need have a bubble or specifically fitted ship. GǪbut on the other hand, during an event such as hulkageddon, you'll have a fair chance of figuring out beforehand where to bring such a ship for some extra pod goodness.
This..
And you don't need a bubble in empire to snag a pod.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Cipher Jones
287
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Posted - 2012.01.02 00:30:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Tippia wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:The main problem being that to pod someone that has any sort of clue you need have a bubble or specifically fitted ship. GǪbut on the other hand, during an event such as hulkageddon, you'll have a fair chance of figuring out beforehand where to bring such a ship for some extra pod goodness. This.. And you don't need a bubble in empire to snag a pod.
And you don't need to read a post to reply either.
Seriously, do you not know what or means? If you do you're trolling and if you don't you're stupid.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
Skydell
Space Mermaids
80
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Posted - 2012.01.02 00:30:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:The main problem being that to pod someone that has any sort of clue you need have a bubble or specifically fitted ship.
This, if I'm spamming WTZ with no bubble, you aint getting the pod unless I want teleport service. Even if you have overview set to show just pods, the time it takes you to move from the hulk pod to mine, I'm already in warp. Besides, people don't want revenge, they want to save thier assets and still be able to play the game.
The core problem is the Hulk pilot is out 200 mill, the griefer is out 50. The Hulk pilot can't win this war.
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Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
129
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Posted - 2012.01.02 00:32:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Tippia wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:The main problem being that to pod someone that has any sort of clue you need have a bubble or specifically fitted ship. GǪbut on the other hand, during an event such as hulkageddon, you'll have a fair chance of figuring out beforehand where to bring such a ship for some extra pod goodness. This.. And you don't need a bubble in empire to snag a pod. And you don't need to read a post to reply either. Seriously, do you not know what or means? If you do you're trolling and if you don't you're stupid.
Given that you are old enough to know you can't use a bubble in high sec, WTF is your point exactly?
It's assumed you need a specialized setup to lock a pod. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4220
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Posted - 2012.01.02 00:36:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:GǪbut on the other hand, during an event such as hulkageddon, you'll have a fair chance of figuring out beforehand where to bring such a ship for some extra pod goodness. If I were a total ******* loser and wanted to participate in mass griefing, yes.[/quote]UhmGǪ you do realise that this change is intended for those who hunt the gankers, right?
Skydell wrote:This, if I'm spamming WTZ with no bubble, you aint getting the pod unless I want teleport service. Even if you have overview set to show just pods, the time it takes you to move from the hulk pod to mine, I'm already in warp. Besides, people don't want revenge, they want to save thier assets and still be able to play the game. The above goes for you too: I think you're missing who this GCC tweak is intended forGǪ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
120
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Posted - 2012.01.02 00:44:00 -
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I don't understand why the OP doesn't just cowboy up and pop that pod. Like he pointed out, Concord is hardly a deterrent for gankers. Why should it be a deterrent for you? If the target is an outlaw, you don't even suffer a sec penalty.
Actions have consequences, you want to kill the pod badly enough you should be willing to deal with them, and repair your sec status just like the rest of us.
Or are you just looking for risk-free PVP vs defenseless pods that are not even allowed to board a ship long enough to fight back? |
Skydell
Space Mermaids
80
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Posted - 2012.01.02 00:44:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:GǪbut on the other hand, during an event such as hulkageddon, you'll have a fair chance of figuring out beforehand where to bring such a ship for some extra pod goodness. If I were a total ******* loser and wanted to participate in mass griefing, yes. UhmGǪ you do realise that this change is intended for those who hunt the gankers, right?
Skydell wrote:This, if I'm spamming WTZ with no bubble, you aint getting the pod unless I want teleport service. Even if you have overview set to show just pods, the time it takes you to move from the hulk pod to mine, I'm already in warp. Besides, people don't want revenge, they want to save thier assets and still be able to play the game. The above goes for you too: I think you're missing who this GCC tweak is intended forGǪ [/quote]
And you don't seem to appreciate the fact that losing the pod isn't going to make any difference to someone popping hulks during Hulkageddon. It isn't enough additional loss to balance out the ISK ratios loss over gains on a killmail and if you think Hulkageddon is anything more than just another spreadsheet in EVE, you really are a lost soul. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4220
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Posted - 2012.01.02 00:48:00 -
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Skydell wrote:And you don't seem to appreciate the fact that losing the pod isn't going to make any difference to someone popping hulks during Hulkageddon. It isn't enough additional loss to balance out the ISK ratios loss over gains on a killmail GǪand that is of no relevance to those who want to go out and pop those pods. You're still talking about the ganker's relationship to the miner, which isn't the one that this tweak is intended to affect.
Quote:if you think Hulkageddon is anything more than just another spreadsheet in EVE, you really are a lost soul. GǪand this change is an additional spreadsheet to go alongside it.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Cipher Jones
292
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Posted - 2012.01.02 00:52:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:GǪbut on the other hand, during an event such as hulkageddon, you'll have a fair chance of figuring out beforehand where to bring such a ship for some extra pod goodness. If I were a total ******* loser and wanted to participate in mass griefing, yes. UhmGǪ you do realise that this change is intended for those who hunt the gankers, right?
Skydell wrote:This, if I'm spamming WTZ with no bubble, you aint getting the pod unless I want teleport service. Even if you have overview set to show just pods, the time it takes you to move from the hulk pod to mine, I'm already in warp. Besides, people don't want revenge, they want to save thier assets and still be able to play the game. The above goes for you too: I think you're missing who this GCC tweak is intended forGǪ [/quote]
What a masterful troll you have become.
Maybe someday when I smoke 10 joints I will be high enough to think that shooting at hulkagheddon participants is not participating.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
Cipher Jones
292
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Posted - 2012.01.02 00:56:00 -
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Quote:Given that you are old enough to know you can't use a bubble in high sec, WTF is your point exactly?
It's assumed you need a specialized setup to lock a pod.
That you have to have a scan resolution of well over 2000 to lock a pod (with no bubble in HS), which also nullifies your 2nd statement; It is not an assumption.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4220
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Posted - 2012.01.02 01:04:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Maybe someday when I smoke 10 joints I will be high enough to think that shooting at hulkagheddon participants is not participating. Does hulkageddon give out prices for shooting pirates? Why isn't it called pirategeddon then? How is it participating in hulkageddon when you're not doing what hulkageddon is all about?
Or are you now trying to say that shooting criminals is griefing? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
129
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Posted - 2012.01.02 01:09:00 -
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Skydell wrote: And you don't seem to appreciate the fact that losing the pod isn't going to make any difference to someone popping hulks during Hulkageddon.
Well, Sigma grade clones ain't exactly cheap.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Estella September
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.01.02 01:17:00 -
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If the last Hulkageddon was anything to go by, it seemed to include a lot of non-mining ships
..is in it the same this time round, another grieferthon??
Or do we have to draw pictures, so you know what a Hulk looks like? |
Cipher Jones
292
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Posted - 2012.01.02 01:22:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:Maybe someday when I smoke 10 joints I will be high enough to think that shooting at hulkagheddon participants is not participating. Does hulkageddon give out prices for shooting pirates? Why isn't it called pirategeddon then? How is it participating in hulkageddon when you're not doing what hulkageddon is all about? Or are you now trying to say that shooting criminals is griefing?
Masterful I say. I am sure you have people convinced right now that you actually are confused as to what a participant is, or that hulkagheddon is "about" something deeper than low self esteem.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4221
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Posted - 2012.01.02 01:26:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:I am sure you have people convinced right now that you actually are confused as to what a participant is So in other words, you are claiming that hulkageddon will give out prizes for shooting gankersGǪ
I can't remember reading that anywhere, but maybe you have some new and interesting information on the topic. Could you link it please?
Or are you still confused about who this tweak is for (hint: it's not the participants of hulkageddon, on either side).
Oh, and you still didn't answer the other alternative: do you really consider it griefing to shoot outlaws? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Cipher Jones
294
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Posted - 2012.01.02 01:48:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:I am sure you have people convinced right now that you actually are confused as to what a participant is So in other words, you are claiming that hulkageddon will give out prizes for shooting gankersGǪ I can't remember reading that anywhere, but maybe you have some new and interesting information on the topic. Could you link it please? Or are you still confused about who this tweak is for (hint: it's not the participants of hulkageddon, on either side). Oh, and you still didn't answer the other alternative: do you really consider it griefing to shoot outlaws?
Of course I didn't answer your question, you're trolling as usual.
If you can't differentiate between "Who something is for" as opposed to "Who something effects" then you should never be involved with things that effect other people.
When you have to put something directly stated into "other words" it means either you do not comprehend the words or you have a need to alter them for some other reason.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
225
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Posted - 2012.01.02 01:58:00 -
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I want this to happen so every time a newbie goes GCC trying to save his out-of-corp friend whos spaceship I am murdering I get to pod someone.
I hardly get any podkills, it's sad. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4221
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Posted - 2012.01.02 02:01:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Of course I didn't answer your question Why not? I'm interested in your reasoning here.
Quote:you're trolling as usual. I don't troll GÇö usually or otherwise.
Quote:If you can't differentiate between "Who something is for" as opposed to "Who something effects" then you should never be involved with things that effect other people. You are the one who seems to have problems separating the two here: it's for the people hunting gankers (who aren't participating in the hulk-hunting); it affects the participants in hulkageddon (who will draw down those GCCs as part of their participation). Ok, sure, it affects the hunters as well, since they would no longer have to GCC themselves if they wanted to shoot the gankers.
You implied that bringing a pod-hunting ship to take advantage of this tweak would be to participate in mass-griefing. Since the targets you'd have would be the gankers, I'm asking you if this is really the conclusion we should draw: that you consider hunting gankers to be mass-griefing. Usually, people like to claim that it is the gankers who are the griefers rather than the ones who are killing those gankers. So your implied position is a rather interesting reversal of that common sentiment, and I would just like to clarify whether that is what you actually mean or not. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Rellik B00n
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
112
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Posted - 2012.01.02 03:31:00 -
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yeh flag em. my war dec solution |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
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Posted - 2012.01.02 03:32:00 -
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Hulks aren't flagged, why should gank pods be?
Sit around long enough, if I have you red I'll blow up your pod anyway. |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
176
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Posted - 2012.01.02 03:48:00 -
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zatazon wrote:On a slightly side note, has the dates for hulkageddon been released or is it still TBA?
I think its like january 4 or so, the date was made so people would return to eve from the holidays, then hulkageddon would start I believe. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1495
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Posted - 2012.01.02 06:03:00 -
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Did You Know that pods with -5 sec status can be shot without intervention by CONCORD? |
met worst
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.02 06:17:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote: I don't understand why the OP doesn't just cowboy up and pop that pod. Like he pointed out, Concord is hardly a deterrent for gankers. Why should it be a deterrent for you? If the target is an outlaw, you don't even suffer a sec penalty.
Actions have consequences, you want to kill the pod badly enough you should be willing to deal with them, and repair your sec status just like the rest of us.
Or are you just looking for risk-free PVP vs defenseless pods that are not even allowed to board a ship long enough to fight back?
Chuckle. I'm having difficulty understanding the irony of "risk-free PvP" coming from a ganker of mining vessels. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1058
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Posted - 2012.01.02 06:41:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:GǪbut on the other hand, during an event such as hulkageddon, you'll have a fair chance of figuring out beforehand where to bring such a ship for some extra pod goodness. If I were a total ******* loser and wanted to participate in mass griefing, yes. UhmGǪ you do realise that this change is intended for those who hunt the gankers, right?
Skydell wrote:This, if I'm spamming WTZ with no bubble, you aint getting the pod unless I want teleport service. Even if you have overview set to show just pods, the time it takes you to move from the hulk pod to mine, I'm already in warp. Besides, people don't want revenge, they want to save thier assets and still be able to play the game. The above goes for you too: I think you're missing who this GCC tweak is intended forGǪ [/quote]
Hunting gankers?
I am raising an eyebrow, Spock style. |
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