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hellsknights
Phoenix Navy Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 23:29:00 -
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Edited by: hellsknights on 30/05/2007 23:37:46 I fly only caldari ships, my skills are all pvp based. 3 months ago i was like finally i can fly the cerb.Now i only started being active again last week. [i was still training i will add]
I jump in my cerb head out to pvp a bit... My setup: 5 HML t2, domination smart bomb [for drone killing] mids : gist a-type small booster, invul t2, photon t2,small shield booster t2 , cap injector, lows: 3 BCU t2 , 1 PDIAG Flying in gangs no solo here. 1 cap rig, 1 missile velocity rig
So i ask my bud hey fire on my to see how my tank goes, hes flying a drake so im figuring he wont be able to brake my tank. Wrong he broke it to my surprise.
So then i decide to try and brake his.....you guessed it nope not even close and anyhow even if i was able to he would of downed me before i could bust threw his shields.
Im i doing something wrong? Is my setup ****? Or should i use another ship flat out
Hells
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.05.30 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: hellsknights
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fullmetalpwn
Death's Legion Academy
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Posted - 2007.05.30 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap
Originally by: hellsknights
Words cant describe the pain?
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Originally by: "Alumion" Welcome to EVE, where many wars are started over forum posts.
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zurich93
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 23:38:00 -
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its that bad he went emo before he could even post it Nope starts here actually :O -----Sig starts here------- <3 Kaemonn eep eep beep heep keep womble... YOU DO NOT POSESS THE POWER TO DISGUINISH MY SIG FROM MY POST MWHAHAHA IBTL |
hellsknights
Phoenix Navy Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 23:40:00 -
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Sorry i hit enter before posting my topic.
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.05.30 23:44:00 -
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maybe you were smartbombing your own missiles? _________________________________________________ Breetime
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hellsknights
Phoenix Navy Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 23:56:00 -
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I had a Domination shield boost amp instead of the second shield booster and it makes me rep less. Thats why i switched to the second small booster.
As for cap injector ,my problem isent running out of cap, my problem is that the cerb sucks horse sausage.
I know its not ment to be a dps machine and such, frankly it doesent do anything better then the drake.
Its just sad that a BC outperforms any HAC.
Hells
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Tunajuice
Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.31 00:00:00 -
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TBH hacs are mostly toys, they don't do a lot you can't already do in a BC. The much better hac is the eagle, as it fills a unique nich (cruiser sized 200km sniper) that no other ship fills (well vulture, but its similar).
A cerb is basically a rich man's toy drake.
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hellsknights
Phoenix Navy Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.05.31 00:12:00 -
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Edited by: hellsknights on 31/05/2007 00:11:59 OK ,if any of you guys use caldari ships for solo pvp and gang whats the most effective ship u like to use in both situations.
Or should i brake my rule and start training for some gallente ships since i already can t2 armor tank and got pretty good drone skills.
Cause as we all know EVE= Gallente online
Hells
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xHalcyonx
Amarr EmpiresMod
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Posted - 2007.05.31 00:14:00 -
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Edited by: xHalcyonx on 31/05/2007 00:12:40
Originally by: hellsknights OK ,if any of you guys use caldari ships for solo pvp and gang whats the most affective ship u like to use in both situations.
Or should i brake my rule and start training for some gallente ships since i already can t2 armor tank and got pretty good drone skills.
Cause as we all know EVE= Gallente online
Hells
Get the one ship that brings the Gallente to their knees. The NanoCurse. Also, break, not brake.
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hellsknights
Phoenix Navy Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.05.31 00:29:00 -
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Thanks for the grammar check btw.
I have a Amarr account gonna have recon pretty soon.
Out of all Caldari ships i can fly the only one i truly like is the Nighthawk. Even if its DPS is lack luster, the tank on that ship is awesome.
Its to bad Caldari have such good PVE ships and so little PVP ships. I was just hoping once in T2 ships that the PVP would improve and really it hasn't.
Hells
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xHalcyonx
Amarr EmpiresMod
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Posted - 2007.05.31 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: hellsknights Thanks for the grammar check btw.
I have a Amarr account gonna have recon pretty soon.
Out of all Caldari ships i can fly the only one i truly like is the Nighthawk. Even if its DPS is lack luster, the tank on that ship is awesome.
Its to bad Caldari have such good PVE ships and so little PVP ships. I was just hoping once in T2 ships that the PVP would improve and really it hasn't.
Hells
A torp raven is a pretty devastating gang ship. 800 DPS is no laughing matter even if it can't solo.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.31 00:36:00 -
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first off, no small booster is going to cut it on a PvP cruiser. Use a tech II large shield booster and a med injector.
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JenDen
Caldari LFS Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.31 00:44:00 -
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I heard Cerberus can get pretty dangerous if you equip Assault Heavy Launchers and go close combat. Cerberus bonuses will make this close combat "not exactly close" :) and the range would still be decent. Yet I have to agree that Caldari are generally not honored on PvP, maybe except for some specific ships like Blackbird or Vulture.
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hellsknights
Phoenix Navy Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.05.31 00:44:00 -
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Edited by: hellsknights on 31/05/2007 00:43:35 I might not be right but i won't be able to fit the large shield booster with the 3 BCU T2 and BTW im running a med cap injector.
Ill try and fit it tonight when i get back from work, but i dont think it will fit.
I don't want to gimp my cerb's DPS even more so those 3 BCU are a must for me.
I can maybe try out a MED shield booster instead of the second small one, aybe that will fit.
Hells
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hellsknights
Phoenix Navy Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.05.31 00:48:00 -
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Edited by: hellsknights on 31/05/2007 00:48:18
Originally by: JenDen I heard Cerberus can get pretty dangerous if you equip Assault Heavy Launchers and go close combat. Cerberus bonuses will make this close combat "not exactly close" :) and the range would still be decent. Yet I have to agree that Caldari are generally not honored on PvP, maybe except for some specific ships like Blackbird or Vulture.
I was thinking of the HAL setup that setup sounds interesting. To bad i can't use T2 HAL, i might just have to train it up.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Hells
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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.31 01:20:00 -
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First of all, you won't do dps.
Fit precision missiles and own up all the small stuff in gang, you can kill it really fast.
Second, as people pointed out, gistii boosters are for carebearing. Fit large booster + injector.
Another point is, if you want to do something fun and different, nano it up... But you'll need good navigation skills and some isk to burn.
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hellsknights
Phoenix Navy Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.05.31 01:26:00 -
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Edited by: hellsknights on 31/05/2007 01:26:02 I do use precisions for the smaller targets, i also carry FOF missiles incase. As for the large booster i will try and fit it ,if i can still use 3 t2 BCU, perhaps ill drop to 2 BCU.
What about the HAL is this a viable setup for the cerb, to anyone who has tried it?
Hells
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Balcura
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Posted - 2007.05.31 01:30:00 -
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The idea of using HAM II's is a good one as the main benifit of using a cerb with heavies is the LOOOONNNNG range of the heavies (easily out runs missile dist on a Drake). If your not using the range stack a set of HAM II"s in the highs, large booster II and injector set in the mids, DC II/2xBCU II and a PDS II and you'll find the DPS to be acceptable... range to be consistant with blasters and the tank enough for a PVP battle as long as you run the injector.
There are many ways to set up a ship... depends on the enemy your fighting if it's the right setup.
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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.31 01:31:00 -
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Yup, cerb isn't all that useful for closer range pvp...
You either nano it with HAM's or you warp in at really long range, probably with some shield extenders slapped on and start spamming missiles.
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hellsknights
Phoenix Navy Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.05.31 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: Balcura The idea of using HAM II's is a good one as the main benifit of using a cerb with heavies is the LOOOONNNNG range of the heavies (easily out runs missile dist on a Drake). If your not using the range stack a set of HAM II"s in the highs, large booster II and injector set in the mids, DC II/2xBCU II and a PDS II and you'll find the DPS to be acceptable... range to be consistant with blasters and the tank enough for a PVP battle as long as you run the injector.
There are many ways to set up a ship... depends on the enemy your fighting if it's the right setup.
Ill try that setup out, i dont really like to long range fights i rather be up close and personal. Like i said ill invest the small training time for the HAL.
I dont plan on running huge fleet ops ,i dont care for blob wars. I much rather small groups vs small groups and even 1 on 1.
So i was looking for more dps without gimping the tank.
Hells
[I still think the cerb is disappointing]
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Audri Fisher
Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.31 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: hellsknights Edited by: hellsknights on 31/05/2007 00:43:35 I might not be right but i won't be able to fit the large shield booster with the 3 BCU T2 and BTW im running a med cap injector.
Ill try and fit it tonight when i get back from work, but i dont think it will fit.
I don't want to gimp my cerb's DPS even more so those 3 BCU are a must for me.
I can maybe try out a MED shield booster instead of the second small one, aybe that will fit.
Hells
Drop the Gistti
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hellsknights
Phoenix Navy Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.05.31 01:43:00 -
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Perhaps i will drop the Gist booster, i will run some different setups tonight.
Hells
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lord orei
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Posted - 2007.05.31 03:13:00 -
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How are your engineering skills? When I could first fly a Cerb, I took it to a 4/5 complex and got it blown up by a bunch of frigs and cruisers. I spent 2 months skilling my shield oriented engineering skills and the Cerb is now a prety decent ship.
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GusHobbleton
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.31 03:15:00 -
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Nuts, I was looking forward to the Cerb :|
I guess I could still use it for gate sniping in small gangs. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Jim Sharpe
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Posted - 2007.05.31 03:36:00 -
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The ship is fine, you should rethink your fittings.
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Susa Ou
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Posted - 2007.05.31 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Sharpe The ship is fine, you should rethink your fittings.
Yup, the ship is more then fine - with Heavie Missles, the thing reaches far and wide to send its love. Its the range that makes is good, and fitting Sccrams and webs does not change a thing - if an inti is coming for you, then switch to percision - by by inti.
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Gee Lok
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Posted - 2007.05.31 04:41:00 -
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The Cerb is meant to have a range tank tbh, and Range tanks aren't the best for pvp.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.05.31 05:57:00 -
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Hehe, I love it when people assume its the ship that sucks... ---
Originally by: CCP Wrangler You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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spiceses 667
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Posted - 2007.05.31 06:50:00 -
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On my Caldari Character i had this set up and bugger me it was sweet!!!
Hi's - T2 Heavy Launchers
Mids - Pithum A Type Medium Shield Booster - 2 Inv Field 2's - 1 T2 EM hardner - Medium Cap booster (filled with 800's)
Lows - 3 BCU's - CPU upgrade (can't remember fully but pretty sure it was this mod)
Rigs - 2 Missile ROF ones
Please note the sheild booster, yes its expensive but bloody hell it tanks, it outtanked 2 Gank set up Deimo's and a gank hurricane and won, it out tanked a 6 gang group of 3 inty's, 1 Vaga, 1 Moa and 1 BB until help arrived which was for about 5 mins sat their tanking them.
If you don't believe how well this baby can tank fit it and see..
The cerb is a leet puppy with that shield mod but it is so expensive..
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