Pages: [1] :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Baron Deathicon
Outerspace Vanguard
2
|
Posted - 2012.01.02 16:19:00 -
[1] - Quote
I understand the mechanic of blocking actions while being cloaked. However, is there a reason why we are blocked from docking/jumping if we are in range but still cloaked, other than just a blunt line of code that prevents everything? I wonder how difficult this would be to improve... ?
With the latest changes to allow docking/jumping from large distance (which provokes warping) and proceed when in range, I believe this mechanic should be updated. When ordering your ship to dock/jump, it should not "fail" to do so, and should simply de-clock and proceed with the action. Currently, it randomly fails because the ship doesn't always warp/approach close enough before it tries to dock/jump. It makes it inconsistent.
Of course, any other action such as activating a module, scanning, etc., should still be blocked, and the warning message that you fail to do so because you are cloaked shall remain in all these other cases.
But seriously, telling me that I can't dock/jump because I'm cloaked is just plain annoying and doesn't prevent any exploits. |
Baron Deathicon
Outerspace Vanguard
2
|
Posted - 2012.01.03 21:35:00 -
[2] - Quote
*Bump*
This is really annoying... please consider fixing this. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
181
|
Posted - 2012.01.03 21:44:00 -
[3] - Quote
This is related to the whole "unreliable warp-in distance" thing. Same issue as landing at 2550m and not being able to jump.
The Dock and Jump buttons could use a bit more work to handle edge cases like this. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
485
|
Posted - 2012.01.03 21:52:00 -
[4] - Quote
fully supporting this with my signature ;) a new bounty system for eve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Nika Dekaia
23
|
Posted - 2012.01.04 01:19:00 -
[5] - Quote
Warping to a gate in cloak: Dropping out of warp more than 1.500 km from the gate -> gate uncloaks me, no jump. Cloakfail. Dropping out of warp less than 1.500 km / or in in the gate -> jump (gate uncloaks me. jump works)
What never works: Jump through a gate -> then reaproach the same gate you just jumped through (push jump button on gate, then activate cloak) - always fails to jump because of cloak.
Haven't tried with stations. But I guess there are some bumps, too. |
Baron Deathicon
Outerspace Vanguard
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.07 13:37:00 -
[6] - Quote
Nika Dekaia wrote:Warping to a gate in cloak: Dropping out of warp more than 1.500 km from the gate -> gate uncloaks me, no jump. Cloakfail. Dropping out of warp less than 1.500 km / or in in the gate -> jump (gate uncloaks me. jump works) What never works: Jump through a gate -> then reaproach the same gate you just jumped through (push jump button on gate, then activate cloak) - always fails to jump because of cloak. Haven't tried with stations. But I guess there are some bumps, too.
Yup I agree, seems like around 1500m it starts working. But in heavy load systems like Jita, its even worse. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
297
|
Posted - 2012.01.08 01:03:00 -
[7] - Quote
Question... you want to dock but you are cloaked... how can the station see you, lock you, and tow you in? "Just because I seem like an idiot, doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4298
|
Posted - 2012.01.08 01:21:00 -
[8] - Quote
You get decloaked at 2km from anything. You can GÇ£activateGÇ¥ most things at 2.5km range (gates, cans, titans). You can actually dock (with stations) at 500m.
It's that discrepancy between activation range and decloaking range that trips you up with gates, but at the same time, that discrepancy is very handy when consciously trying to minimise your uncloaked exposure time (e.g. scoot up to a container at 2.3km; decloak; grab stuff; cloak GÇö all without moving). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
109
|
Posted - 2012.01.08 06:47:00 -
[9] - Quote
I can't think of a situation where I would want to be informed that I can't leave a starsystem because I am cloaked, just decloak me and jump instead of throwing up that warning.
This game is full of warnings and notifications informing you about why you can't do something, instead of the game just DOING the thing you're being warned about. |
Baron Deathicon
Outerspace Vanguard
6
|
Posted - 2012.01.08 13:37:00 -
[10] - Quote
Jafit McJafitson wrote:I can't think of a situation where I would want to be informed that I can't leave a starsystem because I am cloaked, just decloak me and jump instead of throwing up that warning.
This game is full of warnings and notifications informing you about why you can't do something, instead of the game just DOING the thing you're being warned about.
Exactly. |
|
Simc0m
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
10
|
Posted - 2012.01.09 19:42:00 -
[11] - Quote
+1
Happens to me 10x per day.
You can even lose your ship because of this. If you are cloaked and choose to dock at a station, sometimes it drops you 2200 from the station, throws this warning message "cannot dock because you are cloaked", and then your ship drifts to within 2000m of the station and uncloaks you! But you still don't dock! So now you are in the kitchen making a sandwich thinking you are docked whilst pirates are doing unspeakable things to your buzzard. FIX THIS PLEASE |
Fidelium Mortis
Quantum Cats Syndicate
21
|
Posted - 2012.01.09 21:06:00 -
[12] - Quote
You cannot post because you are cloaked.... SON OF A...
+1 Yeah it's kinda annoying. Happens all the time, thankfully haven't lost a ship yet due to it. ICRS - Intergalactic Certified Rocket Surgeon |
Baron Deathicon
Outerspace Vanguard
9
|
Posted - 2012.01.15 21:43:00 -
[13] - Quote
ShahFluffers wrote:Question... you want to dock but you are cloaked... how can the station see you, lock you, and tow you in?
It doesn't matter, it would be your ship's behavior to uncloak before sending the signal to dock/jump. i.e. it should decloak itself (and network lag should not interfer with this mechanic, you will get docked/jumped whatsoever). |
Averyia
6
|
Posted - 2012.01.16 14:40:00 -
[14] - Quote
It really does come down to the unreliable warp-to button. There is a chance you will land at the gate or station in that special range where you aren't decloaked automatically and you can't jump either. There's also the chance that you will not even be in range to jump, meaning you have to move.
If you are a freighter pilot, the problem is worst because there is the VERY real chance you will warp too close and be bumped off the gate.
The fix is a more intelliegent warp system that promises that you will land within jump range but outside of problem range. |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Mordus Angels
0
|
Posted - 2012.01.16 15:14:00 -
[15] - Quote
Baron Deathicon wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Question... you want to dock but you are cloaked... how can the station see you, lock you, and tow you in? It doesn't matter, it would be your ship's behavior to uncloak before sending the signal to dock/jump. i.e. it should decloak itself (and network lag should not interfer with this mechanic, you will get docked/jumped whatsoever).
THIS +1 |
Ibeau Renoir
Colonial Fleet Services Independent Faction
11
|
Posted - 2012.01.16 18:05:00 -
[16] - Quote
Simc0m wrote:So now you are in the kitchen making a sandwich thinking you are docked whilst pirates are doing unspeakable things to your buzzard. FIX THIS PLEASE And you are AFK docking outside hisec why? Ceci n'est pas un sig. |
Justice Comes
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
|
Posted - 2012.04.09 07:51:00 -
[17] - Quote
Just got my first transport ship, and yes, this is still happening and still highly annoying Google Chrome could not load the webpage because forums.eveonline.com took too long to respond. The website may be down, or you may be experiencing issues with your Internet connection. |
Baron Deathicon
Outerspace Vanguard
15
|
Posted - 2012.04.10 12:25:00 -
[18] - Quote
I believe this would be a great addition to the "small bug fix list". |
Baron Deathicon
Outerspace Vanguard
18
|
Posted - 2012.07.01 19:06:00 -
[19] - Quote
Perhaps this could make it for the next expansion please? |
Baron Deathicon
Outerspace Vanguard
22
|
Posted - 2012.07.07 19:03:00 -
[20] - Quote
It seems this bug have finally been fixed! I've been testing around long roads and I didn't get that issue anymore. Instead it seems now its doing an "approaching" if I'm still stealth. Good job CCP!
Can anybody else confirm this is not happening anymore? |
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |