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Raluque
Caldari Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 13:47:00 -
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I remember being a newer player and flying around misaba/mamet ratting and ninja mining, negotiating ratting privledges with CVA and hearing war stories of heroic battles between U'K and CVA wings.
Alas, this was almost two years ago and on under a different character name. My how things have changed.
Anywho.... Its almost a shame that ISS got their arses beat down to the point where Butter Dog sought refuge within the womb of U'K.
U'K, IMHO, was much more tolerable and likeable before Butter Dog became their " Un-Official " spokesperson in almost every UK/CVA thread.
I must say, I cannot understand why U'K continues to tolerate this " person "...
Ah well, Good luck U'K, good luck CVA, personally, I'm rooting for CVA, Butter Dog is too much of an eyesore to be supportive of.
Oh, Hey... Orin! Look a bird!
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Tharrn
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.06.04 13:50:00 -
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I am in fact even a bit worried - Empire operations have been safe enough to almost fly on autopilot ever since U'K built Unity and had to care for it. I guess people will have to be more watchfull again in the future :P
I honestly hope this is not the end of our long-standing conflict. The grand majority of U'K have always been good sports and fun to fight.
Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
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Copine Callmeknau
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:00:00 -
[123]
Amarr Victor!
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Originally by: Patch86 Depressing as hell though. By the end, you feel like someone's eaten your kitten.
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Karn Mithralia
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:21:00 -
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Darius' opinions are his own and no shared by all U'K.
Likewise Sapphrine does not speak for us, indeed he is removing himself from our ranks.
The fight was hard and close in 9UY and as Hardin says is not over yet. I'm no fool and can see the writing on the wall liek anyone else, but its not over until the fat lady sings.
Lose Unity we may, but lose sight of CVA being an enemy worth fighting? I for one doubt it. I am not too proud to obscure the fact Unity feel despite our best efforts. I honor my foe for that.
Lets see what happens when the dust settles. -----------------------------------------
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Butter Dog
The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Raluque I
Anywho.... Its almost a shame that ISS got their arses beat down to the point where Butter Dog sought refuge within the womb of U'K.
U'K, IMHO, was much more tolerable and likeable before Butter Dog became their " Un-Official " spokesperson in almost every UK/CVA thread.
Hello. Always nice to see another BD fanboi paying me the attention my epeen loves, but what a shame you are so utterly clueless.
Firstly, I left ISS because of a very public disagreement with the leadership. I thought everyone knew that, but clearly you're so out of touch with anything to do with me or events surrounding UK, you don't know that. Thats fine, but keep your uninformed opinion to yourself because it makes you look rather silly.
Secondly, I've been fighting CVA and friends for much longer than I've been flying alongside UK. Myself and my corpmates were happily shooting CVA and anything friendly to them before CVA even fired a single shot in the battle for QR.
The reason I'm contributing to this thread is because I've been fighting with CVA and friends for over a year. I've also helped in defence of UNITY station on two occasions now (the first successfully).
I think I've earnt a right to post in this thread. You, on the other hand, clearly know nothing about me or the situation which surrounds this conflict, so for the sake of your own credibility I'd keep your clueless little opinions to yourself.
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Raluque yap yap
Jesus dont peopel read corp descriptions any more?
Originally by: Our corp description Beware of the Butter Dog do not feed him.
i am amazed how you all fail!
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Oosel
Nightmare Holdings Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:06:00 -
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with the game mechanics of eve today it was only a matter of time b4 the current happenings.....im pretty sure both cva and uk enjoyed themselves more with the slugfests of a few years ago but you can forget either side throwing big fleets at each other any more.
nobody likes losing his hard earned isk to lag on jump in within 10 secs and as such we now get a my dads bigger than your dad scenario where instead of a pure rp battle between two of the finest rp alliances there is we get the situation we have now
i implore both sides to remember your glory days of old and remember honour valour and integrity
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Jogyn
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:10:00 -
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Was it CVA or UK who started shooting posses and taking stations? Because whoever did is a bit lame, why ruin a nice fight who everyone enjoys and start a boring pos war?
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Butter Dog
The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jogyn Was it CVA or UK who started shooting posses and taking stations? Because whoever did is a bit lame, why ruin a nice fight who everyone enjoys and start a boring pos war?
Well, here is all gets a bit sticky...
CVA started the outpost seiges. But they claim that was in response to UK shooting a NOS pos.
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Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:13:00 -
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yes, since it needs overstating for people to get it, I don't speak for U'K and particularly not when I've just resigned roles :)
My time with U'K is ending and I wish them no hard will. They are a scrappy bunch and fight tooth and nail for their ideals.
I feel sad that the RP conflict is no longer what it used to be. I will be washing my hands of it. Good luck in whatever you do U'K and I just hope you don't base it on fighting CVA further. I know at least i'm not alone in that thought within the alliance but i'm sure it will be announced how you intend to proceed once you have decided. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |
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Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:15:00 -
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Edited by: Sapphrine on 04/06/2007 15:14:17
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Jogyn Was it CVA or UK who started shooting posses and taking stations? Because whoever did is a bit lame, why ruin a nice fight who everyone enjoys and start a boring pos war?
Well, here is all gets a bit sticky...
CVA started the outpost seiges. But they claim that was in response to UK shooting a NOS pos.
CVA lobbed towers up in 8p9- to deflect U'K away from helping ISS also previous to that. There had been the odd pos stuck up here and there I think on both sides but never for critical sov grabbing.
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chrisreeves
Gallente Asgard Protectorate
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:36:00 -
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Edited by: chrisreeves on 04/06/2007 20:35:40 You don't know me but I would like to add something about the ISS and UK situation.
It's despicable in my opinion.
I stuck up and defended ISS during it's worst time. When we made it through, some of the corps that stuck it out through that got the shaft pretty much. The reason I bring this up is to highlight the fact that there are those people who work on honor and principle and there are those who work on isk and power.
While I cannot shed any light onto those Littlest Hobos, I can shed some light onto those who have not helped UK.
Ushra'Khan came to the aid of ISS in the past but I have yet to see ISS return the favor. The excuse that ISS gives? "We don't get along with some that are helping UK so we can't go help you".
Yea, kinda sad.
Thing is ISS would bring their caravans to the far reaches of the galaxy, bringing good to allies and enemies alike putting their pilots in jeopardy in order to bring goods into hostile territory. This is about the same exact thing in my opinion. The difference between the caravan and helping a friend of course is the ISK.
So now, you tell me ISS (since you removed the post and access to it in the public section where I asked you, unsolicited, to assist UK), which is more important? Helping your friends in their hour of need or helping your wallet in your hour of greed?
Something I said a week or so ago to my guys, "every day I find another reason to like ISS less and less". I haven't passed to the point of dislike yet because there are still good people in ISS, unfortunately, but it's getting close.
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Originally by: kieron The Ibis was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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DorXtar
Asa Dynasty
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:39:00 -
[133]
Is it a secret ISS is kinda.... you know.... dead?
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Hardin
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:39:00 -
[134]
You may not be aware but BUM - betrayal Under Mayhem are mainly made up of former ISSN members and they are helping UK... ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607
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Manic Mole
VENOM72 Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:44:00 -
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didn't iss help uk out when that coalition of pirates tried to take what was then Unity? ---[sig starts here]--- a proud member of whatever allince i happen to be in at the time! eveything i say is my personal feeling and has no blar blar blar you get the idea. |
Kaganis Warmonkey
Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.06.04 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin You may not be aware but BUM - betrayal Under Mayhem are mainly made up of former ISSN members and they are helping UK...
Mainly made up of former ISS full stop. Hobo's are the ex-ISSNers. The rest of us are corps that were in ISS.
However, you could say that we're not on the best of terms with the ISS these days. Much the same way that BUM & Sylph "don't really get along".
Anyway, /me waves to chrisreeves. Welcome to life after ISS. Perhaps we should form a support group? And don't worry, it's not just you, it seems that ISS have shut down their public forums. (I blame BD. No idea if it was his fault. It's forum related, so I'm blaming him on principle. ).
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Naurhir
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.04 23:11:00 -
[137]
Regardless of any drama, Minmatar pride!
I too enjoy reading smack free stories from both sides.
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Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.05 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Jogyn Was it CVA or UK who started shooting posses and taking stations? Because whoever did is a bit lame, why ruin a nice fight who everyone enjoys and start a boring pos war?
Well, here is all gets a bit sticky...
CVA started the outpost seiges. But they claim that was in response to UK shooting a NOS pos.
Ah no on the response to NOS part.
The very first PoS take down attempt of the war was pre-dreadnaughts. That was U'K vs a PIE (or really 1PG, but we were merged then) pos, this was back when we were CVA.
The first successful PoS take down of this war was over a year ago, and before the U'K outpost. This was Amarr block against U'K, as an act of revenge for the killing of an Amarrian holder.
The first sovereignty capture attempt was the battle of 8PN, in which CVA attempted to wrest sovereignty of that border system from U'K. U'K won.
The second attempt was U'K vs Nos. CVA/Nos Won.
The first successful invasion attempt was the assault on QR by CVA. CVA and allies won.
Then this assault on 9uy. Which still remains in question.
This war has been escalating slowly for years, and it was only a matter of time before one side or the other took the offensive territorially.
As fun as a simple raiding war is, it fits into neither alliances agenda. That either Unity Station or XR3 would fall eventually was effectively guaranteed the moment both finished construction in the same region.
Its been an epic war, and anyone who thinks it will be over after this battle ends should look here and realize they are underestimating the U'K: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=530597
The Providence chapter of the war may be over, but the war itself seems certain to go on.
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Amandi Casimi
Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.05 04:58:00 -
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I do have one thing to reply too. And since I am the most outspoken non-slave holder in CVA, it should be me. :)
CVA are not slavers... we are an Empire loyalist organization. A good majority of the alliance hold slaves, but I am not one of them. My House is staunchly anti-slave (mainly due to it being very uneconomical... not a moral issue.)
So there... I said it... :) I am not a slaver. But you can keep calling me one if you want, as the Empire is pro-slave, and I am an Empire loyalist. I just don't have to agree with everything.
So please stop saying it is bad RP that I don't RP a slaver... Cause... it isn't.
Let neutrals be neutrals.
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Jason Marshall
Hammer Of Light
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Posted - 2007.06.05 05:28:00 -
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I see a new Slave trade hub forming in 9UY after this.
Move thoose rust bucket slaves out of providence and get them to work back in Amarr on my Cattle farm.
Tacky Lensflares in sigs ftw
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LordAmarus
Minmatar Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.06.05 07:03:00 -
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I see cva bleeding dry on this :p
yesterday UK + friends brought the pos down to 20% shield r so without ANY cva movement then I had to log :p
cva has station but that's about it I think ,haven't really seen them do anything significant other than this
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Krystian
Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2007.06.05 07:12:00 -
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Edited by: Krystian on 05/06/2007 07:11:26 nvm lol
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Butter Dog
The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.06.05 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: LordAmarus I see cva bleeding dry on this :p
yesterday UK + friends brought the pos down to 20% shield r so without ANY cva movement then I had to log :p
cva has station but that's about it I think ,haven't really seen them do anything significant other than this
I docked in UNITY this morning, its back in UK hands.
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Dire Lonestar
Caldari Global Isk Network NBSI Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.05 15:23:00 -
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Sad times, indeed. I remember CVA as fierce and great opponents... up to the RP assault (Karishal Defiance). They simply went mad and now they play the worst way possibile, leaving rp behid the good old conquer desire. I wish the best luck possible to UK friends. -- Another one bites the dust! |
Karash Amerius
Amarr O.E.C Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.06.05 15:29:00 -
[145]
I think you guys are hanging out non-RP elements too much.
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Hardin
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.05 15:54:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Dire Lonestar Sad times, indeed. I remember CVA as fierce and great opponents... up to the RP assault (Karishal Defiance). They simply went mad and now they play the worst way possibile, leaving rp behid the good old conquer desire. I wish the best luck possible to UK friends.
This is a wrong perception which will be addressed shortly.
As people may recall the CVA made no announcements or declarations until the QR siege was completed. This wasn't a problem as it took just about a week.
Unfortunately (for us) this particular episode has dragged on for a month and as a result there has been a void which a variety of incorrect information has filled and as a result people seem to be 'decrying' the death of RP.
That is far from the truth and it shall be addressed when the outcome is decided one way or another.
I would suggest that people stop with the hand wringing and wait for the 'official statement' where all will be explained and I am sure people can make up their own minds then.
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Butter Dog
The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.06.05 16:50:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Hardin
(some of which - understandably - has come from people with an anti-CVA axe to grind)
Originally by: Hardin
Finally, Butterdog is correct when he states the station is back in UK hands. I am sure they are using the time usefully.
I can honestly say... rigged ships are more trouble than they are worth sometimes
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Cipher7
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.06.05 18:30:00 -
[148]
The CVA-UK RP saga is a giant beacon of light for me.
Is POS warfare and landlord/tenant relationship all that's left of Eve?
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frank frank
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.05 18:37:00 -
[149]
This sure is a long thread.
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Diavolu
United Warriors Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.05 18:41:00 -
[150]
Originally by: DorXtar Is it a secret ISS is kinda.... you know.... dead?
I can show you how dead I am.
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