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Bishop 5
Gallente Macabre Votum INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.06.03 16:59:00 -
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GG all involved i suppose, props to Leonidas for squaring away the flames.
PS. Dictor bubbles held the MS in place? Or... ? -------------
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The Beatnuts
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.03 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Bishop 5 GG all involved i suppose, props to Leonidas for squaring away the flames.
PS. Dictor bubbles held the MS in place? Or... ?
rumors talk about bumps and cap neutz.
Don't speak english - f1, f2, f3
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Zu Vurn
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.06.03 17:10:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Zu Vurn on 03/06/2007 17:12:34 ..
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Ling Xiao
Prism Project Technologies
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Posted - 2007.06.03 17:11:00 -
[124]
I thought Officer Smartbombs make interdictor bubbles useless? Is that not true then
Grats on kill, always nice to see big ships go boom
Is there gonna be a fraps available? __________ If you think the game is rigged, why are you still playing? |
Zu Vurn
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.06.03 17:12:00 -
[125]
Edited by: Zu Vurn on 03/06/2007 17:12:45 ..
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DeltaH
NOBODY Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.03 17:18:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Ling Xiao I thought Officer Smartbombs make interdictor bubbles useless? Is that not true then
Grats on kill, always nice to see big ships go boom
Is there gonna be a fraps available?
Watch Helen video ... bumping > bubbles
Anyways, who has cap for smartbombs |
Megadon
Caldari Deathshead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.03 17:21:00 -
[127]
Edited by: Megadon on 03/06/2007 17:21:27
Originally by: Kehmor All the other threads on this topic have been locked for alt posting so hell, I'll do it. Discuss this update!
This is a pretty pathetic thread imo.
One mom down and we treat this like an epic event.
meh, i'm jaded what can i say. --------------
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MeatwagonUK
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.06.03 17:41:00 -
[128]
Nice kill, but a much nicer reply from King.
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Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.03 17:51:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Megadon Edited by: Megadon on 03/06/2007 17:21:27
Originally by: Kehmor All the other threads on this topic have been locked for alt posting so hell, I'll do it. Discuss this update!
This is a pretty pathetic thread imo.
One mom down and we treat this like an epic event.
meh, i'm jaded what can i say.
I disagree. Every time a super cap dies, it's worth a mention.
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Dominixa
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.03 17:53:00 -
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Looks like it was hardly a goon/ra kill and more of an isk farming alliance kill protecting their way of life in the home country. Complex isk sells o so good on the internets ehh?
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Helen
STK Scientific Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.06.03 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Megadon Edited by: Megadon on 03/06/2007 17:21:27
Originally by: Kehmor All the other threads on this topic have been locked for alt posting so hell, I'll do it. Discuss this update!
This is a pretty pathetic thread imo.
One mom down and we treat this like an epic event.
meh, i'm jaded what can i say.
Sounds like you've never even looked at trying to make one of these the sheer time and isk involved is so much more than a dread or crummy carrier.
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Thodoros
Minmatar Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:00:00 -
[132]
Well done RA, for the kill! Great job as usuall.
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matty01
Minmatar Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:02:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Dominixa Looks like it was hardly a goon/ra kill and more of an isk farming alliance kill protecting their way of life in the home country. Complex isk sells o so good on the internets ehh?
weeeeeak
0/10 __________________________
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Fortior
STK Scientific Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:07:00 -
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I have a personal theory why Supercaps so frequently experience desynchs, presented in my own very untechnical tongue.
It's because of SPAM! The MS 'entity' on the server is getting absolutely hammered by various commands and changes, both from the pilot himself and the fact that there are 40-50-100 ships shooting the MS. The code can't handle that many changes to one entity that rapidly, and stuff gets cut out. The most susceptible, and most appearent, is of course the connection to the client. Thus, desynch happens.
The evil people might of course take advantage of this by dumping a motherload of players in various ships to shoot the MS (doesn't matter if damage is done, the logging of shots should be enough) in hopes of fabricating a desynch. This of course is slightly negated by Officer Smartbombs (frigs and cruisers tend to die a hasty death if they're close) but it's still a vulnerability.
This spamming is of course compounded by a laggy system or lag in general.
So, my expert opinion (do note the sarcasm), CCP has to changed the code handling damage done to ships or the logging of said damage. Or both.
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Kvaell
Minmatar Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:09:00 -
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gj RA i must say. We all live with the lag anyways.
King Leonidas, I hope you get some lolz from your corpmates. It's a game anyways, damn entertaining one.
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Three0fNine
FinFleet
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:16:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Kvaell We all live with the lag anyways.
Desync has nothing to do with lag
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Mutant
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:17:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Dominixa Looks like it was hardly a goon/ra kill and more of an isk farming alliance kill protecting their way of life in the home country. Complex isk sells o so good on the internets ehh?
you don't think about sponsored by BoB for farm isk? what for fight if u need only pay for protection... time for fight = loss money.
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PC5
ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:21:00 -
[138]
Originally by: DHB FooFighter
Originally by: Dr Einkeisel here ya go here ya go
Oh well this stuff happens and is expected, gg on the kill :) if It gets given back to us then great, but I wouldn't hold any hopes out. And no doubt it will stay on our killboard!
The exact same thing happend to the IAC mothership when he went down, and he did not get it back.
If they didnt get it back then why someone else should get it back due same thing? Oh wait...
It will be interesting.
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DeadDuck
Amarr Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:25:00 -
[139]
Nice kill and nice fair play from DBP/King Leonidas .
Just one question . How much time did it take to go down ?
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Indomitus Rex
Amarr H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:25:00 -
[140]
So there's not another Mom you could jump into, dbp?
Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug |
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Plague Black
4S Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:29:00 -
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Big gratz to all parties involved in killing that MS.
I'm looking forward to congratulating you even more so don't disappoint me please
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DeltaH
NOBODY Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Fortior It's because of SPAM! The MS 'entity' on the server is getting absolutely hammered by various commands and changes, both from the pilot himself and the fact that there are 40-50-100 ships shooting the MS. The code can't handle that many changes to one entity that rapidly, and stuff gets cut out. The most susceptible, and most appearent, is of course the connection to the client. Thus, desynch happens.
Collision detection, aka bumping, is probably most likely. Any other ship being swarmed by 20 ships with swarms of drones/fighters is going to be warp scrambled. With MOM/Titan they always have a chance at entering warp which can lead to a situation where butterflies farting can be the difference between being in warp or not being in warp.
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Kozak
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Dominixa Looks like it was hardly a goon/ra kill and more of an isk farming alliance kill protecting their way of life in the home country. *snip* Trolling. -Elmo Pug
Why only snip part of the post? The sentence above is Trolling aswell, how is it constructive to this thread?
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Ling Xiao
Prism Project Technologies
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:44:00 -
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Edited by: Ling Xiao on 03/06/2007 18:44:11 Yup, the lethal desync is most likely caused by being bumped - due to lag the client thinks it's made it into warp and starts moving the ship away, but the server knows it hasn't really, but because of lag it didn't tell the client in time. Due to a bug/oversight, the client doesn't check with the server and fix the problem, instead leaving the pilot helpless.
Although to be fair, in a situation where the ship is being bumped enough to not get into warp, and unable to tank, it would likely die even if there was not a desync. __________ If you think the game is rigged, why are you still playing? |
Smith
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:46:00 -
[145]
Thats the one thing about AAA and RA...you think you got them on the backfoot and then they pull a crazy Ivan on you.
Just shows what you can do when you got some decent FCs and a good plan.
PS. I loved how peeps were quick to start making tenuous links between CCP and BOB before all the info had been gathered on this kill/loss. Pretty funny.
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Ling Xiao
Prism Project Technologies
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:47:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Megadon Edited by: Megadon on 03/06/2007 17:21:27
Originally by: Kehmor All the other threads on this topic have been locked for alt posting so hell, I'll do it. Discuss this update!
This is a pretty pathetic thread imo.
One mom down and we treat this like an epic event.
meh, i'm jaded what can i say.
Any supercap death is an epic event, and a BoB supercap death is even more newsworthy tbh. __________ If you think the game is rigged, why are you still playing? |
Kehmor
Caldari The Movement
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Megadon Edited by: Megadon on 03/06/2007 17:21:27
Originally by: Kehmor All the other threads on this topic have been locked for alt posting so hell, I'll do it. Discuss this update!
This is a pretty pathetic thread imo.
One mom down and we treat this like an epic event.
meh, i'm jaded what can i say.
you're a pretty pathetic player. Guess we're quits?
The Movement is recruiting! |
Kehmor
Caldari The Movement
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Posted - 2007.06.03 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Reservoir Dog Edited by: Reservoir Dog on 03/06/2007 15:09:17 Edited by: Reservoir Dog on 03/06/2007 15:07:13
Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche Nice kill RA
Shame it looks like another mix of dubious tactics n client bugging was the cause of its destruction. But i guess if theres no other way to bring them down, then its what needs to be done.
There's no any dubious tactic. Bob's Aeon logged in right after DT on plex entrance to block it from RA and friends. RA and friends logged in right after DT on plex entrance to kill Aeon and enter the plex. I guess they managed to bubble it successfully to prevent him from jumping out.
And i guess there's may be actually something in CCP programming related with bubbling supercapitals because IAC's mom was desynced too. But it is not reimbursable case i guess because sync problems do not affect your abilities to lock, kill ships and to warp on objects if you're not bubbled.
ye, but how about getting in range of a warp bubble in order to smartbomb it?
The Movement is recruiting! |
Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.06.03 19:42:00 -
[149]
Har har
Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus." |
Lunas Feelgood
S.A.S Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.03 19:56:00 -
[150]
Seriously who the feck want to give DBP a MS?? Seriously RKK you should just have provided him with his own forum or maybe a handbook in forum etiquette..
Unless ofcourse RKK just wanted some fast isk and wanted the insurance.
What next spock in a Titan??
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz When the going gets tough...the tough join Bob.
Originally by: Shin Ra
Didn't u get the memo? Bending over is the new honorable thing to do!
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