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Corwain
Gallente Zero Team
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Posted - 2007.06.08 05:18:00 -
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Alright, I pretty much exclusively fit my domis with Blasters instead of Nos, keeps things more interesting. Anyhow, I decided to see how I could viably fit a Domi for max damage while still being able to take some hits, this is what I came up with.
It's passive shield tanked, not for regen, but for HP. Similar to a Gankathron setup, minus the tackle. THIS IS NOT A SOLO SHIP, but rather a damage dealer for gangs that have plenty of tackle already. The goal was to fit a full rack of Neutron IIs, and 3 Magstab IIs to add to it's drone compliment. The result can nearly output 1300dps at max skills. I am unsure if any other non-capship can achieve this. Here's the theoretical setup.
6x Neutron Blaster Cannon II [80xVoid L]
100MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Heat Dissipation Field II
Reactor Control Unit II 3x Power Diagnostic System II 3x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Rigs : Core Defence Field Extender I \ Core Defence Field Extender I \ Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I \
5x Ogre II
66/72/68/73 resists on 15k shield, or 55/60/58/64 resists on 20k shield if you drop the Invuln II for another Extender II. Only 33hp/s max regen but it'll help a very little bit.
Nos will kill this pretty quick without a booster, yeah, but that's just the way it goes with some setups.
Feel free to tear it apart. :-P
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Singularity XX
Caldari Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.08 05:30:00 -
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Edited by: Singularity XX on 08/06/2007 05:29:26 The ship doesn't have a "tank" it just has HP. It will quickly die.
Suggestion: change the tank: 2x invuln 1x photon scattering 1x large shield booster 1x medium electrochemical injector
The rest works about the same I suppose.
Edit -- proof reading ftl --- Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi". It's a templar, an amarr fighter used by shuttles. Tho I hear they don't tank very well. |
PartyVaN
Minmatar The Hand Trade Alliance FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.08 05:30:00 -
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Edited by: PartyVaN on 08/06/2007 05:30:31 that would die really quickly if called primary... thats less Hp, resists and regen than most BCs...
Passive tanking doesnt really work with BSes yet, not until "x-large" extenders are added.
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Corwain
Gallente Zero Team
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Posted - 2007.06.08 05:38:00 -
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It would last about as long as a Gankathron, although it might be worth it to switch a 2 PDU II for a RCU II and a DC II if that'll fit to help passive tank the armor and structure too.
I'm not passive tanking like a drake here guys, it's just an HP buffer so that my DPS can wipe out ships before I kill em. Most ships don't last long as primary targets, we know this. HP tanks seem to last longer than rep tanks nowadays however unless you're fighting 1v1, which I explicitly state in the OP that I will not be doing with this.
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plastic fantastic
Solar Dragons Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.08 05:44:00 -
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comparing to mega
positive: does 100 dps more on paper better agility more drones lower price :\
negative: less survivability less tracking less damage from guns (drone traveling time is bad) cant fit very useful toys like injector/scram/web/sb etc no spare hi slot for nos/remote rep
so whats the point of using domi? :P
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.06.08 05:44:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 08/06/2007 05:55:32
If you're going for "burst sustainable damage", go for broke with mwd, 3 LSE, 2 invul, 3 extender rigs, 2 PDU and 1 DC. That's 54.72/81.88/72.83/63.77 shield resists on roughly 28k shield, on top of the fact you get extra armor resists and the very very nice hull resist bonus.
It's not worth dropping the third magstab for a RCU, that's roughly -11% DPS compared to DPS with it (i.e. adds 12.42% damage compared to two-MFS2 setup).
If you can't fit neutrons, downgrading to ions should only mean -6.25% DPS with an almost 7% better tracking... so only about 4% of your total DPS (and you shouldn't worry about range much, you're in a blaster boat dammit). _ New char creation guide | Module/Rig stacknerfing explained |
Corwain
Gallente Zero Team
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Posted - 2007.06.08 07:10:00 -
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Edited by: Corwain on 08/06/2007 07:09:57 Unfortunatly the Domi only has 5 mids, not enough for 3 LSE II, 2x Invuln IIs and a MWD II. And I'd never dream of dropping a Magstab, I was referring to dropping 2 PDS and replacing with 1 DC II and 1 RCU II. Less shield and cap recharge, but more PG.
Why use the Domi over the Megathron? Well despite it's handsome good looks , some of us have fallen in love with the old space whale. I mean look at jamesw who's been kicking tush in once back when it completely sucked. His old vids still ***** me up thinking about what EVE used to be like.
Yes, the Mega can fit its own tackle in a gank fit, and cap inject, but Domi does slightly more theoretical damage and it's the old warhorse some of us have fallen in love with. I like the Domi for the same reason some might stick with one race over another clearly currently superior race.
EDIT: Not to mention it's unpredictable. Element of suprise is nice to have.
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.06.08 07:30:00 -
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Oh... you're, uh, right. For some reason I edited in the MWD last and forgot to substract a LSE. Silly me. So only 22k-ish shield. Meh. But then again, downgrading to Ions might have another side-effect... you might get to fit the three PDUs and a DC instead of the RCU, right ? And that makes for 23+k-ish shield total.
By the way, if it's a gang... I trust you DO have a guy somewhere with a BC and a siege warfare mindlink ? Preferably with a shield harmonizing link too ? So, basically, an extra +15% shield and a "free 21% resists invul" ? Or, in other words, almost 27k shield with 60/84/76/68 resists ... plus the armor/hull resist bonus from the DC.
_ New char creation guide | Module/Rig stacknerfing explained |
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