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Lentia
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Posted - 2004.01.13 07:50:00 -
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Edited by: Lentia on 13/01/2004 07:56:25 Edited by: Lentia on 13/01/2004 07:51:41 It was a sad day in Fountain, as the brave defense put on by the noble people of Fountain were systematically decimated by the military force and ruthlessness of the Bovine Alliance. Over 20 of the defenders ships were destoryed, it seemed as if all hope was lost....
But NO, the spirit of FOuntain cannot be defeated so easily! A rag tag bunch with nothing but frigates left to thier name decided to make one last stand, to die with honor and glory. They ammased in Empire and decided to charge Fountain, all or nothing!
Sure enough the evil bovine pirates saw this approaching force on thier scans and stopped their raping and pillaging. So eager were they for some fresh blood that they left thier trophy prize undefended!
It was then, as Omniwar and other mOo were engaged and nearly brought down by the heroic frigate fighters, that Fountain Alliance forces had a chance to sneak back into the heart of Fountain thru a secret warp gate and take back thier stations. A number of Bovine spies were caught and killed on site.
Back now on thier home turf the Fountain Alliance forces quickly ressembled. The Bovine forces quickly scattered and disapered off radar, leaving Fountain Forces back in control of their homeland at least for now......
Rumor has it that Stavros the Evil, gravely dissapointed with the recapture of Fountain sentenced the responsible officers to extreme torture for their incompetence. Their subsequent disfigurement will be plain for all to see and a lesson to all who may displease his Evilness.
Lentia Military Officer http://www.staf.online-guild.com/ |
Maximus Destructor
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Posted - 2004.01.13 07:57:00 -
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Kick butt Fountain Aliance!
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Lentia Lite
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Posted - 2004.01.13 08:09:00 -
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Yeah, you tell em' sis!
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N3gotiator
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Posted - 2004.01.13 08:10:00 -
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a dozen ships try to get into YZ. a dozen ships die trying. not a single loss on m0o side. all FA pilots are trapped in stations and are too afraid to come out. YESSSS FOUNTAIN WON OMG WTF YEAAAAAAAAAAAAA...on the second thought...hmmmz...
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Lexus666
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Posted - 2004.01.13 08:17:00 -
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Edited by: Lexus666 on 13/01/2004 08:18:37 Seems there are lies, {Edited}Gosh Darn lies and Lentia's post.
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.13 08:31:00 -
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almost as funny as the time 5 thoraxes tried to jump me in fd-mlj
maybe you guys should try role-playing decent pvpers.
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.13 08:34:00 -
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the best part of the whole skirmish was our ts channel. omni told zcinner that it was a fleet of 15 evol battleships and insisted that we could "get one and warp out." zcinner spent a half hour babbling about how he was shaking, had to go to bed, etc.
good times.
sucked that everyone was dead by the time I jumped in, though.
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Nikolai Reidar
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Posted - 2004.01.13 09:03:00 -
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Congratulations to the Fountain Alliance for their bravery and determination. With you keepign the m0o forces at bay and our Osmeden Alliance taking arms against the c0w forces in Orvolle, the supposedly fearsome Bovine Alliance will not last much longer. Fight on!
:. http://eve.lividandgifted.com (In-game) :. ph33r my HORNETS OF D00M!!!!111 |
N3gotiator
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Posted - 2004.01.13 10:11:00 -
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how can one claim victory if the enemy isnt taking any losses escapes my mind.
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DrStrangelove
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Posted - 2004.01.13 11:06:00 -
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Quote: With you keepign the m0o forces at bay and our Osmeden Alliance taking arms against the c0w forces in Orvolle, the supposedly fearsome Bovine Alliance will not last much longer. Fight on!
Ok letÆs re-read the first post. By their own admission they lost well over 20 ships and only ôalmostö got Omniwar. The fact is if m0o leaves YZ-LQL for any reason it is certainly not for fear of the fountain military.
To bring an alliance to its knees requires us to kill their battleships over and over, which is what we are doing. ôHoldingö a system only waists time and does not drain your wallets.
But I guess you have to look at it from a glass is half full point of view just to salvage some sort of pride. The unfortunate thing is your glass is practically empty.
m0o corp
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Skokeh
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Posted - 2004.01.13 12:21:00 -
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Quote:
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But I guess you have to look at it from a glass is half full point of view just to salvage some sort of pride. The unfortunate thing is your glass is practically empty.
LOL
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.01.13 12:25:00 -
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OK I could be mistaken but is this story about the fact that MOO logged off to get some sleep?
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Toulak
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Posted - 2004.01.13 12:35:00 -
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Quote: OK I could be mistaken but is this story about the fact that MOO logged off to get some sleep?
No thats called running away, or so the FE seem to think anyway.
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Volrath
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Posted - 2004.01.13 12:40:00 -
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No, this story is about the fact that moo conveniently needs sleep every time the FA is about to overpower them. And about the fact that they can only get into the heart of Fountain by agreeing to massively log on in the middle of the night when the FA defense has gone to bed after spending hours of defending the gate.
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Miss Take
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Posted - 2004.01.13 13:02:00 -
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Quote: No, this story is about the fact that moo conveniently needs sleep every time the FA is about to overpower them. And about the fact that they can only get into the heart of Fountain by agreeing to massively log on in the middle of the night when the FA defense has gone to bed after spending hours of defending the gate.
Sounds to me like they are actually using their heads?
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Volrath
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Posted - 2004.01.13 13:10:00 -
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The problem is that the EVE game mechanics currently make it impossible for the FA to win, because we are on the defending side. If ships would still be hanging in space after people have logged off, FA would have won 50 times over. And if you ask me, that is how it should be. So what if someone CTD's, there should be logs for that in the game client, and GM's should be able to read them and reimburse ships if necessary. This current system makes winning just a matter of striking at the right time (for example, when there is no defending fleet, but only a lot of indies around), and since this is a game, we cant really expect people to be there all the time. CCP should fix this, because it is not right from a game mechanics view, and not right from a roleplaying perspective, ships just disappearing in mid space because their pilot is sleeping or awaiting the right time to log in, coordinating with their buddies on external programs such as teamspeak. It may be smart to log off if numbers are against you, but its certainly not fair play.
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RaaNa
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Posted - 2004.01.13 13:23:00 -
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Quote: The problem is that the EVE game mechanics currently make it impossible for the FA to win, because we are on the defending side..
also you doesnt win on the offensive side..
look your invasion fleet in Curse.
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Shizuko
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Posted - 2004.01.13 13:26:00 -
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LOL Volrat u know nothing, we was overpowered, but yet we still fought and smelt sweet success. And logging in the middle of the night, what when the other half of fountain has logged on, you mean the americans. Fountain is always busy at night. So unless you have something constructive to say, STFU.
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Opticon
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Posted - 2004.01.13 13:39:00 -
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Quote: No, this story is about the fact that moo conveniently needs sleep every time the FA is about to overpower them
Give us a break man it was like 4am, had work the next day -_- |
Chuffer
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Posted - 2004.01.13 13:41:00 -
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Quote: The problem is that the EVE game mechanics currently make it impossible for the FA to win, because we are on the defending side.
Stop defending and take the fight to them?
Quote: If ships would still be hanging in space after people have logged off, FA would have won 50 times over.
Wouldn't change a thing, just log in a alt to speed up the process.
Quote: This current system makes winning just a matter of striking at the right time (for example, when there is no defending fleet, but only a lot of indies around)
Same with pretty much any PvP/strategy game, its called tactics
Quote: CCP should fix this
Fix what? the ability for people to use their heads and actually put some planning into what they do?
Quote: It may be smart to log off if numbers are against you, but its certainly not fair play.
Any commander who lets fair play dictate their actions is a fool, or has lots of isk to waste.
So in summary you want the defending side to alway win.
You want to be able to gank ships floating dead in space while the owner is asleep.
You want CCP to remove all tactical aspects from the game and introduce some kind of rules of engagements. (time, location, fleet composition ect all the be agreed before hand)
This has got the be the lamest carebear whine ive read on these forums to date |
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.01.13 13:47:00 -
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Hear hear, its official - Volrath is a mega-carebear.
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Volrath
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Posted - 2004.01.13 14:09:00 -
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Quote: Stop defending and take the fight to them? <snip> Wouldn't change a thing, just log in a alt to speed up the process.
This is what im trying to say here, we were willing to take the fight to them, but couldnt, because they just logged off, keeping their ships safely away in the nothingness of space. And i mean ships should stay in space at all times unless docked. Even when you log in an alt.
Quote: Same with pretty much any PvP/strategy game, its called tactics
I was talking about Real Life time... not game time...
Quote: Fix what? the ability for people to use their heads and actually put some planning into what they do?
If anyone did the planning here, it was Fountain, not the Bovines, the only thing they had to do was wait till everyone went to sleep.
Quote: Any commander who lets fair play dictate their actions is a fool, or has lots of isk to waste.
This is still a game... and i do agree that it was smart of them to do this, i only state that it shouldnt be possible to do it.
Quote: So in summary you want the defending side to alway win.
No, i want them to have an advantage, instead of a HUGE disadvantage.
Quote: You want to be able to gank ships floating dead in space while the owner is asleep.
Yes i do, because when people use these kinds of tactics, its impossible to win.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.01.13 14:12:00 -
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lol...Volrath, ever wondered why we dont claim any space? its impossible. we go around the universe and prove to the alliances that its impossible. its FA's turn now. prepare to be destroyed. (evil laugh)
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Volrath
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Posted - 2004.01.13 14:12:00 -
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And for the part where is am being called a carebear.. wtf are you smoking?
I was AT that battle, i fought alongside FA, i wanted to take the fight to THEM, but couldnt!
what in the nine hells is carebear about that?
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Maule
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Posted - 2004.01.13 14:13:00 -
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well.. IMO there should be something done about the logging off becurse its killing me that ppl¦s are logging off becurse they are getting shot at and know they are going to loose their ships.. thats just kame to do that.. so something should be done like ships that is logged on and is under attack by another player or is targeted by another ship or being targeted should not just disapeer..
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Skokeh
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Posted - 2004.01.13 14:20:00 -
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Quote: well.. IMO there should be something done about the logging off becurse its killing me that ppl¦s are logging off becurse they are getting shot at and know they are going to loose their ships.. thats just kame to do that.. so something should be done like ships that is logged on and is under attack by another player or is targeted by another ship or being targeted should not just disapeer..
OMG - what he said was we log off not because we are being attacked, but because we need to sleep!
Go away and read the forums properly - kthxbye
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Volrath
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Posted - 2004.01.13 14:22:00 -
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Ok skokeh, so you all actually only sleep 4 or 5 hours? because that is about the time you needed to get back online and sneak past our diminished defenses...
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Volrath
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Posted - 2004.01.13 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: Volrath on 13/01/2004 14:30:50 I explained the problem a bit better and posted an explanation of the events from my point of view on the patch forum, where it has a chance of actually being read by the devs...
Please keep that topic flame free and informative and feel free to post any constructive ideas there.
Do not think that my intentions are to flame the Bovine alliance, because i think they are great fighters and did the smart thing under the circumstances. I just dont want this to be an aspect of the game.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=53469
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.13 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: pooti on 13/01/2004 16:06:40 well if you want we can start docking
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Tibor Ferenc
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Posted - 2004.01.13 18:52:00 -
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Edited by: Tibor Ferenc on 13/01/2004 18:55:16 Volrath when most of us logged it was for the sole reason that we were tired and needed sleep. NOT because we were scared as, anyone who was there can tell you we were willing to fight for a long time while you all hid at safespots and in stations.
We had to logoff and have a spy log in by the time you all prepared, before we logged back in as otherwise there would of been no fight even tho the numbers were stacked in your favor by a huge margin.
Then it was us who warped in on your entrenched possition, where we proceded to spank you all. After the main battle we regrouped, attacked again and routed you.
We then hung around picking a few of you off who were brave/dumb enough to fight us or get trapped by us. By this time the going was slow so i decided to goto bed which I had been telling myself to do for around 2 hours as I had work in 7 hours time.
So it's fair to say that we did not log out of fear but we had broken you and I needed my sleep. We constantly fight when outnumbered, so pls get your fact right.
But when all is said and done respect to all who fought, Iknow that all of m0o had fun and we hope you did too.
Tib. http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
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