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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.10 16:32:00 -
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That BoB and their associated asshats are defending this as a legitimate tactic has to be one of the biggest **** takes in EVE history.
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.10 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Aeon Yakati
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Aeon Yakati That's 1% profit / traderun.
This has got nothing to do with percentages. It has to do with the volume of ISK made with zero direct risk.
Yeah, and how much risk do Hulk producers have? (as someone refered to those)
THen tell me, how much investment do they require?
Here is where your nonsense argument flips on its own head. The fact that the investmnet is so enormous is the very reason that absolutely no one can compete with you and its also the reason that this is so ridiculously overpowered.
hulk producers have a number of BPO owners to compete with ANd they have every random inventor to compete with. You have precisely no one to compete with and have stumbled upon a way to circumvent the market balancing and simply PRINT isk.
If you want to try to justify this as some sort of normal or healthy gameplay then you are a ******.
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.10 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Aeon Yakati Baun, you simply don't get it, do you?
A newbie with 10,000 isk can make 5k isk within an hour.
An experienced player with 100mil isk can make 20mil or whatever.
Someone with 200bil can make 2 bil.
Just that it's a lot to you or even unreacable, doesn't make it unbalanced.
It really aint our problem you cant be bothered to build a titan and thus decide to call it unbalanced.
The problem is that the sell and buy order balancing is borked so that the market doesn't balance itself as it should. If it did that then this jump bridging nonsense would not be nearly so much of a problem.
Because you can print isk daily with a simple evasion of the intended mechanics and because no one else can compete with you you can simply PRINT isk. This is completely ridiculous and it is not remotely comparable to anything of a different scale.
If you can risklessly print 10billion isk a day as long as you have 1 trillion isk a day (ill take your scaling in another direction) then you are seriously arguing that its just not the 1trillion isk holder's problem that no one else has 1trillion isk? If you really believe that, then you are delusional in a way that I would have never comprehended. Of course, you don't believe any of the nonsense you are spewing on this thread; you just don't want your isk fountain to be taken from you.
Things like this break EVE even more than it is already broken.
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.12 15:47:00 -
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Edited by: Baun on 12/06/2007 15:48:22 At the very least the 10min jump penalty needs to be tacked onto Jump Portal Generation in addition to DD.
As it stands now this will be just as invulnerable post patch as it is now(except that Titan pilots may fit for more than cap recharge when they cannot DD and then immediately jump as they can now). Of course, the real solution is to fix the simplistic way the market orders refresh.
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.12 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ifni
2) Due to the prevalence of cargo-carriers it would surely be easier, quicker and cheaper, to use a convoy of 6 or so of these to ship the same volume of plutonium from one end of the galaxy to the other. Greater jump range, lower outlay for ships, etc.
Perhaps my carebear skills have greatly diminished, but after the long since passed skiff nerf can you explain to me how to get 3million m3 into 6 carriers?
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.12 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Chib if this wasnt bob would anyone really care........
I care about anything that ruins the game. Because this is essentially unstoppable it might be even worse than the broken plexes.
This needs to be fixed by fixing the riduculously simplistic order adjustment system.
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.12 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Baun on 12/06/2007 18:38:00
Originally by: ChefQuix So if people are ****ed at the amount of money BoB is making, and completing the buy order 100% will lower the buy price, why doesn't someone go in after and complete the buy order?
disclaimer, I'm a total noob here.
You have to move an assload of trade goods into 0.0 in a freighter in order to do that.
In order to have the capacity to do that safely and do it EVERY DAY you need a titan.
Bob has over 50% of the Titans in EVE. The other ones may simply not have 100billion isk lying around to compete with them.
This is all beside the point. Trade routes that people cannot compete in should not exist. Trade routes that inject isk into the game probably shouldn't exist at all anymore. The situation was bad enough when people were jump hauling Roes from Maut into syndicate (yes, I did this too). This is over 10x as profitable, takes the same amount of time, and can be done everyday since there is no competition (the roe runs got very hard to complete orders on).
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.12 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: ChefQuix But in order to maximize profit, are they not just going to leave a few orders unbought?
To maximize profit they will top out one half of the equation.
If there are more sell orders than buy orders they will top out the buy orders. If there are more buy orders than sell orders they will top out the sell orders and fill whatever buy orders they can from the topped out sell orders.
I see no reason for them not to top this out on every run.
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