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Jebe Noyon
LDK Ultima Rati0
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Posted - 2007.06.15 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Amanda Shadowsword This is a game, I could under stand if some1 just stole his car or robbed his house ( not that i condone murder in any form) that heat of the moment but its just a game it's not real!
Word "reality" has different meanings - for some people virtual reality is extremely important. And for the car and house, I bet some of us can earn cash to buy car in RL way faster than earn 8 bil inna game. So I don't see how saying smth like "I'll find you" for car is legitimate and saying same thing after sum1 robbed him ingame are different things. It's still his property to some extent and could make a person really mad. I'm not saying it's OK to threaten peeps like that, but I have never petitioned any mails or convo threats cuz I find it irrelevant.
Oh and I'm no GM's alt or in aniway simpathising him, I'm just doin an assumtion.
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Devian 666
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.06.15 06:04:00 -
[92]
These dramas go on every day and corp conflicts break out.
People have moaned about scamming but the oldest scam in the book is the corp ceo scam. Scammers scamming each other do you really care that much?
Nicely executed all in all so congratulations. A shame about the ban but he should have known better.
Still my favourite part of this thread is the guy who suggested trading the Nyx at a station. I heard that Coalition Of Carebear Killers lost 3 cap ships to carebears |
chiefyuk
Amarr Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.06.15 06:10:00 -
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Originally by: Amanda Shadowsword Oh nearly forgot, Ginger do u think its appropriate to threaten to kill someone in RL. Personally i don't think it is and the GM's took the right decision.
Well done CCP
wow, ive had that so so many times. Some people really are idiots. You klepto are scum tbh ------------------------------------------------ You can kill the protester but you cant kill the protest ------------------------------------------------ |
tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: chiefyuk You klepto are scum tbh
WOOP, that makes me happy, REALLY
Kleptomaniacs are recruiting evildoers. Join channel KLEPTO for info.
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LittleTerror
Caldari kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 06:26:00 -
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Edited by: LittleTerror on 15/06/2007 06:26:04
Originally by: chiefyuk
Originally by: Amanda Shadowsword Oh nearly forgot, Ginger do u think its appropriate to threaten to kill someone in RL. Personally i don't think it is and the GM's took the right decision.
Well done CCP
wow, ive had that so so many times. Some people really are idiots. You klepto are scum tbh
Yup some people clearly are idiots for going nuts over something that happened in a game and then threating people with RL threats
Originally by: chiefyuk you klepto are scum tbh
ok
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Nobum
Amarr dabster Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.15 06:38:00 -
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posting in an epic thread
I said something like this would happened within a week after Miz had joined on this forum, hilarious **** _______________________________ I'm no main >.> |
chiefyuk
Amarr Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.06.15 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Originally by: chiefyuk You klepto are scum tbh
WOOP, that makes me happy, REALLY
i know :)
Long live low sec gate piracy! ------------------------------------------------ You can kill the protester but you cant kill the protest ------------------------------------------------ |
Dread Operative
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.15 06:43:00 -
[98]
Originally by: alpha charlie tbh i dont think he should get banned for a little smack in local and no im not a ginger alt
Go away Ginger alt
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Grunanca
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Posted - 2007.06.15 06:50:00 -
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I dont care if it is alts writing in sympathy for Ginger or not. I have only once seen him in a gatecamp, and luckily got out in time... But unless there was really treats like "Im gonna kill you" involved, I think the GMs should look at the bigger scale. If I had saved up so much bil and lost em, I would prob just leave the game, and the fact that Ginger got angry is no big surprise... Some people can loose their temper, others can control it. I would say in cases with so huge losses, the GMs should look at it in a wider perspective.
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 06:53:00 -
[100]
Edited by: tiller on 15/06/2007 06:51:50
As I said before, Ginger is now exposed as the worst / lowest corp thief of all time, a CEO who steals from other pirates / friends for his own cap ship gain. (and loss lol)
[ 2007.06.14 18:22:23 ] Banned > we make 500mill per day [ 2007.06.14 18:22:26 ] Banned > its not end of world [ 2007.06.14 18:22:27 ] tiller > good [ 2007.06.14 18:22:33 ] Banned > adn u know whre it allg oes:) <-------- BASTARD [ 2007.06.14 18:22:47 ] tiller > and you know where all your members go [ 2007.06.14 18:22:47 ] Banned > was worhtt he risk
Kleptomaniacs are recruiting evildoers. Channel KLEPTO for info. |
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Phoenus
Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.15 06:58:00 -
[101]
Dammit Miz :( Now who am I going to hunt on my offcontract time
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Kinsy
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.06.15 07:10:00 -
[102]
Serves him right completely.
Eve is minus one serious smacktard.
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.15 07:30:00 -
[103]
Hilarious stuff.
The master lord killer of shuttles and empty industrials is gone.
I won't miss him.
- Recruitment open again-
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Khul Drukath
Maelstrom Crew
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Posted - 2007.06.15 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 15/06/2007 06:55:08
As I said before, Ginger is now exposed as the worst / lowest corp thief of all time, a CEO who steals from other pirates
A pirate who steals from other pirates... oh the horror!
Pretty weak to be banned in this way, I've had much worse smack and it's all heat of the moment stuff. Really does anyone actually take these threats seriously?
Anyone, my question is - with the forced disconnect and Ginger having aggressed outside the station, was his moros taken out? I assume that even a forced disconnect leaves your ship in space for 15mins?
Let Us Fight Your Battles |
Major Stormer
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.15 08:02:00 -
[105]
Owned.
--------- Its just a game. Get over yourselfs. www.eve-tribune.com Dont get too excited now.
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.15 08:02:00 -
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Couldn't happen to a nicers smack talker
Now tiller can be king of the shuttle killing.
Oh and Ginger not clever posting this little story with your alt as I expect he will now get banned too.
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Khul Drukath
Anyone, my question is - with the forced disconnect and Ginger having aggressed outside the station, was his moros taken out? I assume that even a forced disconnect leaves your ship in space for 15mins?
He was forced to dock by klepto cap ships
Kleptomaniacs are recruiting evildoers. Channel KLEPTO for info. |
Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.15 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: Traxio Nacho
Oh and Ginger not clever posting this little story with your alt as I expect he will now get banned too.
We can only hope ;)
- Recruitment open again-
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zwerg
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 08:18:00 -
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looool, haha ginger, btw, not having nu** to post with main is really bad mkay
still, people will never learn the basics of the game...
... eve's youngest piwat Yarrrr :)
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Enraku Reynolt
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.06.15 08:25:00 -
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things like this reminds me of that line in the Matrix "The Universe is not without a sence of humor." ------------------------------------------------ Do not let the world change you. Change the world
Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the same |
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Miz Cenuij
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 08:27:00 -
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Okay, so yes I pulled off a long term confidence scam... again.
It was me guvna, I did it, but lets be honest everyone and thier mother knows what im about, so WHO in thier right mind would send me 8.5 billion ISK? Ginger Magician, thats who.
So some background...
Early on within my time in Snowy it became apparent that Ginger was a greedy self centred CEO. ALL loot was to go to corp (aka Ginger's Nyx fund). He does replace some ship losses (not mods), but wont replace T2 ship losses. This from a corp that makes a fair amount of ISK gate camping. This was the reason Tiller etc all left and formed Klepto early on in my time with Snowy. So while the rest of the corp had close to ZERO isk in thier wallets, Ginger inflated his wallet to approx 25 bill. Not so annoying for me, as Ginger has already stated, I run numerous scams, collecting close to 30b in the last 2 months alone, but an appalling situation for the other corp members to be in.
So between this and Ginger simply annoying the hell out of me with his idiotic PvP tactics and the way he yells, berates and is damn rude and abusive to his corp members, my anger steadily grew, but there was always the end goal and I never lost sight of that.
Last week he lost a Moros because he had failed to have a cyno alt logged on, so off he went to buy another (corp paid for it). Whilst he was buying his new Moros, i scammed some guy from **** corp for 12 billion. 2 hours later Ginger got jumped and ost his his shiny new Moros, again because he didnt have a cyno alt running. Now because the guy I scammed was in local (but not in the attack) Ginger decided i should donate the isk gained from the scam to corp (his Nyx fund). He refused to see that it was his fault for having failed to use a cyno alt to escape for the second time in a single night. Whether the guy was involved or not, i was not going to be giving him ISK for lacking any common sense or PvP skills.
This was the last straw, I moved up the timescale of the scam and the rest as they say is history.
One thing i will say for Klepto, I have never had 20 plus pilots undock and fight on my behalf (they did this even before i was in corp (Ginger had pulled the old assign roles so he cant leave corp exploit). Its great to finally be in a corp with people like that in it after two months in Snowy. NB: Ginger killed 1 drake in this fight but had to dock several times because they were owning him in non capital ships HARD, we have fraps.
BTW Crom'ar Lev is Gingers alt and a simple IP check would confirm this. You might also be interested to see that he logs onto other corp members accounts as and when he pleases, taking from them what he needs.
K.Thnx for taking the time to read this and I'll see all you bears in space!
"Men are going to die..
and im going to kill them". |
Miz Cenuij
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.15 08:31:00 -
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Yes he DID make RL threat, which i dont believe it would be in anyones best interests to post here. Leave it to the GM's to decide what is and what is not approprate for peope to say in local, If he has recieved a perma-ban then you know what he said was utterly unacceptable.
"Men are going to die..
and im going to kill them". |
Lt Angus
Caldari OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.15 08:33:00 -
[113]
Its like when your parents fight
Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers |
Mud Pandemonium
Minmatar Trainwreck INC.
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Posted - 2007.06.15 08:33:00 -
[114]
And a call went throughout the land, the evil troll had been vanquished by the noble Miz, and there was much rejoicing.
What a great time to be alive.
Ginger Magician got what he deserved, it's been a very long time coming. He gave piracy a bad name.
We had our words, a common spat. So I kissed him upside the cranium with an aluminum baseball bat. My name is Mud. |
Crom'ar Lev
Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.15 08:43:00 -
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Edited by: Crom''ar Lev on 15/06/2007 08:43:40 Just to be clear Ginger is not a bad ceo who steals isk from his corpmates.If that were the case there must be 25 really stupid people in his corp.The corp policy is clearly laid out to all members before they join.All ship losses which are not the result of stupidity on the corp members part are replaced less the standard insurance which u put in the corp wallet.On top of this and while not specifically stated members receive a lot of help with fittings and modules often way beyond what they could afford out of their own wallets. If people didnt like and enjoy being in snowy no one is holding a gun to their heads and forcing them to stay.Several of our members in fact joined Klepto but returned to Snowy when they discoverd just how disorganised and poorly led the corp was and the vast numbers camping the gates meant that their share of the loot amounted to diddly squat. Once again all that Ginger said in local during the combat was that he would find Miz in real life.Nothing else nothing more.If this deserves a perma ban then I should imagine that any player of 3yrs or more with a few warnings on his account may as well quit now and get it over with cause they wont be many left very soon...
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Raziel Saston
Deviance Cartel
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Posted - 2007.06.15 08:44:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Jarrell Do we not all say things that we regret? Trust people we maybe should not have? The answer to those questions is yes. Everyone has said stuff in local that could have been bannable. Some of us have even sent nasty evemails to those who have killed our ships and popped our pods. I think some mercy has to shown in this case given the underlying circumstances. Miz rooked October Snow for billions of isk; understandably, most, if not all players would have been extremely upset at such a corporate theft. Some of my mates have been killed by October Snow, but that does not mean I want Ginger permanently banned because he let his emotions get the best of him. I ask for the Eve community to rise up and ask that Ginger be reinstated. Remember, we are all human and sometimes succumb to the heat of the moment - especially when we are scammed by corp mates. Four years of character building should not come down to a unfortunate statement made in local.
With much respect to the EvE community,
Jarrell
Have to agree with this. As much as everyone hates ginger ' the character ' i think in the circumstances most of us would be a little bit ****ed off Permanent ban seems a little bit harsh. A warning yeah should be sufficient.
How many hatemails have alot of us had after popping people in low sec, saying how they are gonna do this and that to you and your dog blah blah blah. The majority of them are never reported its just ignored. I dont see why this should be any different.
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Ket Halpak
Cold-Fury Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.15 08:49:00 -
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4 pages and I can't believe someone hasn't said this yet.
GM's, can I have Gingers stuff?
_ Check out my blog at RantingsofaCarebear.blogspot.com Privateers: Those who don't adapt become victims of harsh irony |
August Personage
Caldari Clarf Inc
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Posted - 2007.06.15 08:51:00 -
[118]
SCAMMING IS INVINCIBLE :((((((((((((((((((
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Stray Spider
Gallente Magnetar Ltd Dark Synergy
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Posted - 2007.06.15 08:54:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Stray Spider on 15/06/2007 08:53:45
Originally by: Crom'ar Lev Edited by: Crom''ar Lev on 15/06/2007 08:43:40 Just to be clear Ginger is not a bad ceo who steals isk from his corpmates.If that were the case there must be 25 really stupid people in his corp.The corp policy is clearly laid out to all members before they join.All ship losses which are not the result of stupidity on the corp members part are replaced less the standard insurance which u put in the corp wallet.On top of this and while not specifically stated members receive a lot of help with fittings and modules often way beyond what they could afford out of their own wallets. If people didnt like and enjoy being in snowy no one is holding a gun to their heads and forcing them to stay.Several of our members in fact joined Klepto but returned to Snowy when they discoverd just how disorganised and poorly led the corp was and the vast numbers camping the gates meant that their share of the loot amounted to diddly squat. Once again all that Ginger said in local during the combat was that he would find Miz in real life.Nothing else nothing more.If this deserves a perma ban then I should imagine that any player of 3yrs or more with a few warnings on his account may as well quit now and get it over with cause they wont be many left very soon...
look ma! i can post with my alt too
Just to be clear Ginger is a bad ceo who steals isk from his corpmates. there is 25 really stupid people in his corp (most of them are him). All of their members who left to join Klepto, never returned to Snowy. Clearly because they have brains.
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Ifni
Applied Eugenics
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Posted - 2007.06.15 09:02:00 -
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Ok, as much as I despise Empire pirates, let me point out some discrepancies.
If this is true, since we have only your word that it is, and not some cunningly crafted forum decoy, then what were you thining would happen?
Miz has robbed, scammed and cheated almost every corp he has been a part of since the game started. Not only that, he has a history of manic scamming and social engineering anyone and everyone he can.
Were you truly so arrogant to think that this wouldn't apply to you, because in some misguided way, you considered yourself better than he? Arrogance and pride can be brutally harsh, and are basically what have led you to this point.
If, as i say, it's true.
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