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OmegaTron	Posted - 2004.05.01 12:47:00 - [331] hey L3x never thought i would see u in this post so what r u flying these days? and where? ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming....
Dash Ripcock	Posted - 2004.05.05 15:42:00 - [332] Once Chaos mirrors Tranq, I am hoping to try the following setup: High 6 * Ions 2 * Medium SBs Medium 1 * MWD 1 * Webby 1 * Scrambler (7500m) 1 * Cap Booster w/800/400 charges Lows 3 * Hardeners (Exp/Kin/Therm) 2 * L Repairers 2 * RCUs Does anyone have any experience using the above setup? It's designed with ships that spit missiles in mind, and I would like to know whether the cap will hold out (my primary concern at the moment). Any suggestions will be most welcome! Battle Angels Inc - The Movie
Gariuys	Posted - 2004.05.05 16:26:00 - [333] Originally by: Dash Ripcock Once Chaos mirrors Tranq, I am hoping to try the following setup: High 6 * Ions 2 * Medium SBs Medium 1 * MWD 1 * Webby 1 * Scrambler (7500m) 1 * Cap Booster w/800/400 charges Lows 3 * Hardeners (Exp/Kin/Therm) 2 * L Repairers 2 * RCUs Does anyone have any experience using the above setup? It's designed with ships that spit missiles in mind, and I would like to know whether the cap will hold out (my primary concern at the moment). Any suggestions will be most welcome! Do you have the above equipment on TQ, do you have a corpmate? a roid? Then wth do you need chaos for? ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Dash Ripcock	Posted - 2004.05.05 17:09:00 - [334] Yeah I have most of it, but I just wanna try it against various ship-types without the risk of losing anything/spending a lot of money in the process - why have Chaos at all anyway if that's your opinion! Battle Angels Inc - The Movie
Bobby Wilson	Posted - 2004.05.05 18:02:00 - [335] Most people I've heard who've tried various armor tanks skipped the second L armor repair. With the extra slot, options might be 2 PDs instead of 1 of the RCUs, a cap relay or just a warp stabilizer in case things go wrong. BW Originally by: Selim Cool, congrats. Oh, stupid idea by the way.
Dash Ripcock	Posted - 2004.05.05 18:46:00 - [336] Okay thanks, I just wasn't sure if 1 armour repairer would be enough - I suppose some testing is in order Battle Angels Inc - The Movie
Jazz Bo	Posted - 2004.05.05 21:32:00 - [337] Edited by: Jazz Bo on 05/05/2004 21:35:50 Originally by: Dash Ripcock Once Chaos mirrors Tranq, I am hoping to try the following setup: High 6 * Ions 2 * Medium SBs Medium 1 * MWD 1 * Webby 1 * Scrambler (7500m) 1 * Cap Booster w/800/400 charges Lows 3 * Hardeners (Exp/Kin/Therm) 2 * L Repairers 2 * RCUs Does anyone have any experience using the above setup? It's designed with ships that spit missiles in mind, and I would like to know whether the cap will hold out (my primary concern at the moment). Any suggestions will be most welcome! Quite frankly, I think you might run out of Cpu. That is, if the hardeners are the kind you activate (40tf each) and the injector a heavy one. My opinion: hi and med slots good, lows may need some rethinking. PS. As soon as I have Hull Upgrades 5 I'll get some tech 2 membranes: 37.5% bomus to resistance and require only 20 tf to fit. 11 days to go... Originally by: DB Preacher Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
Jazz Bo	Posted - 2004.05.05 22:05:00 - [338] Edited by: Jazz Bo on 05/05/2004 22:09:17 Originally by: Bobby Wilson Most people I've heard who've tried various armor tanks skipped the second L armor repair. With the extra slot, options might be 2 PDs instead of 1 of the RCUs, a cap relay or just a warp stabilizer in case things go wrong. BW Actually, if I freed a slot in that set-up I would definitely put in a t2 damage mod. The Blasterthron is all about damage after all. I usually only put in one because I hate the idea of getting a penalty on a module But a second one does give a considerable bonus too, regardless of the penalty. Really, take out one of the repairers and you'll have two free low slots. Put in either two damage mods, or one damage and one warp core stab/backup array/tracking mod. Cpu will probably still be an issue even at El 5, Wep Up 5... I can't give exact numbers because I mix normal and named stuff. Originally by: DB Preacher Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
Loka	Posted - 2004.05.06 07:54:00 - [339] Originally by: Jazz Bo Edited by: Jazz Bo on 05/05/2004 21:35:50 Originally by: Dash Ripcock Once Chaos mirrors Tranq, I am hoping to try the following setup: High 6 * Ions 2 * Medium SBs Medium 1 * MWD 1 * Webby 1 * Scrambler (7500m) 1 * Cap Booster w/800/400 charges Lows 3 * Hardeners (Exp/Kin/Therm) 2 * L Repairers 2 * RCUs Does anyone have any experience using the above setup? It's designed with ships that spit missiles in mind, and I would like to know whether the cap will hold out (my primary concern at the moment). Any suggestions will be most welcome! Quite frankly, I think you might run out of Cpu. That is, if the hardeners are the kind you activate (40tf each) and the injector a heavy one. My opinion: hi and med slots good, lows may need some rethinking. PS. As soon as I have Hull Upgrades 5 I'll get some tech 2 membranes: 37.5% bomus to resistance and require only 20 tf to fit. 11 days to go... If you need more than one large Armorrepairer in close combat, than i suggest you ran. With SB on auto and a large AR you wont loose any 1vs1 except your enemy is 80km away. With a setup similiar to this i wasnt able to kill a full tanked Raven on my own by the way. I thought Blasterthron is unstopable but thats not true. You will ran out of ammo. Btw without Cap Relays you will ran out of cap first, because the SB and the Blasters suck cap like their is no tomorrow. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Babolatt	Posted - 2004.05.06 10:56:00 - [340] This is what i use on my mega for Battleship farming: HI: 7x 425mm leaving the 8:th slot empty (no use for missiles or anything like that) MED: 1x EM, 1x Thermal, 1x Tracking CPU and 1x sensor booster LOW: 4x t2 dmg mod, 2x RCU and 1x power diag. u can get some nice dmg with this setup

Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.05.06 15:02:00 - [341] Originally by: Babolatt This is what i use on my mega for Battleship farming: HI: 7x 425mm leaving the 8:th slot empty (no use for missiles or anything like that) MED: 1x EM, 1x Thermal, 1x Tracking CPU and 1x sensor booster LOW: 4x t2 dmg mod, 2x RCU and 1x power diag. u can get some nice dmg with this setup I can believe that setup can do some pretty horrendous damage. But what about the damage you take ? What NPC's do you hunt in this cause I know a heavy spawn of angels will finish this one off if they target you. Unless of course u use a tanked BS as a damage soaker (get them to target it and let it soak while the rest kills the rats) Tho I dont know if that would work anyway. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Aerick Dawn	Posted - 2004.05.06 15:49:00 - [342] My NPC setup:(skills are maxed with all the relevant ones) High Slots 5 425's 2 medium SB's Medium Slots 1 CL-5 XL Booster 2 Shield amps 1 Tracking Computer Lows: I am a little shady, but I think I needed to add 1 co-processor. Otherwise, throw 2-3 relays in there, and the rest is up to you. Setup works pretty well so far against caldari NPC rats. The difficulty in engaging them is way higher than angels which I was hunting earlier. You have to get your smart bomb skill up to an agreeable level and then just rotate your SB's on even intervals. The SB's typically shoot down about 80% of the missiles fired at you(which is pretty scary to watch 30+ missiles coming at ya). Anyhow, if any elite frigs get past, you always have your drones to shoot them down in short order. (just watch your SB use or you'll be owned by your drones) =) Dont even attempt this setup as a pvp setup, because it will suck..Bad. =) I'm not a big fan of shield tanking on megathrons, they were meant to be armor tanked, at least in my mind. =) ______________________ What Aerick has been up to lately..
Babolatt	Posted - 2004.05.06 20:04:00 - [343] Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Babolatt This is what i use on my mega for Battleship farming: HI: 7x 425mm leaving the 8:th slot empty (no use for missiles or anything like that) MED: 1x EM, 1x Thermal, 1x Tracking CPU and 1x sensor booster LOW: 4x t2 dmg mod, 2x RCU and 1x power diag. u can get some nice dmg with this setup I can believe that setup can do some pretty horrendous damage. But what about the damage you take ? What NPC's do you hunt in this cause I know a heavy spawn of angels will finish this one off if they target you. Unless of course u use a tanked BS as a damage soaker (get them to target it and let it soak while the rest kills the rats) Tho I dont know if that would work anyway. Mostly Usurpers, conquistadors together with some cruisers. Of corse u wont make it very long without tactics and good teamwork
duckling1	Posted - 2004.05.08 18:10:00 - [344] Thnx very much guys... this will help me a lot, now i can start equiping my megathron.. Thnx Duckling ---------------------------------------------
Jazz Bo	Posted - 2004.05.09 21:11:00 - [345] I have a question to those of you with more Blasterthron experience: Can a (named) medium cap injector do the job? It can after all hold an 800 charge, but since you have to reload after each one, it'd be slower. But only uses a tiny fraction of the grid. Originally by: DB Preacher Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
OmegaTron	Posted - 2004.05.10 12:46:00 - [346] Originally by: Jazz Bo I have a question to those of you with more Blasterthron experience: Can a (named) medium cap injector do the job? It can after all hold an 800 charge, but since you have to reload after each one, it'd be slower. But only uses a tiny fraction of the grid. IMO i would use a Heavy Cap Booster with 400's holds 7 or 8 i think, and no reloading after every booster is a waste of time and probly would get u killed. Maybe after they transfer the autoreload from Chaos to Tranq it might be worth it. ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming....
Zigy	Posted - 2004.05.11 12:57:00 - [347] 1. Tnx for some nice ideas since I am newbie to PvP and MT fitting 2. Did any of you try using Havy Nosferatu for keeping CAP higher or that doesnt work ...? Tnx and keep posting ... ----------------------------------------------- "Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious." -Brendan Gill
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.05.11 13:39:00 - [348] Originally by: Zigy 1. Tnx for some nice ideas since I am newbie to PvP and MT fitting 2. Did any of you try using Havy Nosferatu for keeping CAP higher or that doesnt work ...? Tnx and keep posting ... They have a range issue, and dont add that much anyway. If you're thinking of doing blasters theyare viable rangewise, but in that case it might be better to opt for more damage rather then vampires. Your cap you should get out of either the 4 medslots, or the lowslots depending on wether you shieldtank or armortank. (with armortanking being the obvious choice for a blasterthron. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Dash Ripcock	Posted - 2004.05.11 14:30:00 - [349] Problem is, even when a Heavy Nosfer works (like on Chaos), it still uses 1750 powergrid. If you're wanting maximum damage, AND want to use Nosfers, your low slots are going to suffer horribly. For a ship like the Mega-T (close range, cap problems) Heavy Nosfers are like a God-send, but fitting them is another issue altogether. I am going to try some setups on Chaos sometime soon, I'll post what I find Battle Angels Inc - The Movie
Jarjar	Posted - 2004.05.11 14:53:00 - [350] Originally by: Dash Ripcock Problem is, even when a Heavy Nosfer works (like on Chaos), it still uses 1750 powergrid. If you're wanting maximum damage, AND want to use Nosfers, your low slots are going to suffer horribly. For a ship like the Mega-T (close range, cap problems) Heavy Nosfers are like a God-send, but fitting them is another issue altogether. I am going to try some setups on Chaos sometime soon, I'll post what I find I got on to try some, and this probably the best that fits... I don't recommend using it, powergrid mods are the devil itself IMHO, and this is too low-damage to be good. 6 Electrons (aka. Dual heavy ion) 2 Heavy nosferatu 1 MWD 1 Fleeting prop. web 1 Faint epsilon 7.5k warp scrambler 1 Heavy cap injector 1 Thermal/kinetic/explosive active armor hardeners 1 Large armor repairer 1 Local power plant man.: power diag 1 Mark I ... : reaction control 1 Cap relay (CPU ends here) The ship would be a lot better off with a ion/electron mix, or 7 electrons, and a few damage mods instead of powergrid mods.

Dash Ripcock	Posted - 2004.05.21 20:47:00 - [351] Thought I would post a setup that is in-line with the changes on Chaos: High 4 * Ion Blasters 2 * Neutron Blasters Medium 1 * MWD 1 * Webifier 1 * Warp Scram (7.5Km) 1 * Cap Booster w/ 800s Low 3 * Hardeners (Exp/Kin/Therm) 1 * Large Armour Repairer 3 * Mag Stab IIs You will need Engineering 5, Electronics 5 and Weapon Upgrades 5 to fit this Can take a lot of damage, and can also deal a lot of damage. I found that with 6 * Ion Blasters the boat simply wasn't doing enough damage, especially against a hardened cap-sucking Raven; you simply ran out of capacitor before their combined shields and armour were down. Once I added the Neutrons the damage-ouput was a lot nicer, close to 7 Ions damage-wise. Just today I got this (although ironically, not with a Neutron!): [ 2004.05.21 13:51:11 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Anode Mega Ion Particle Cannon I perfectly strikes Full2 [FIGH], wrecking for 933.4 damage. Anyway, hope this helps those looking for a setup with the changes. Battle Angels Inc - The Movie
OmegaTron	Posted - 2004.05.25 12:55:00 - [352] Originally by: Dash Ripcock Thought I would post a setup that is in-line with the changes on Chaos: High 4 * Ion Blasters 2 * Neutron Blasters Medium 1 * MWD 1 * Webifier 1 * Warp Scram (7.5Km) 1 * Cap Booster w/ 800s Low 3 * Hardeners (Exp/Kin/Therm) 1 * Large Armour Repairer 3 * Mag Stab IIs You will need Engineering 5, Electronics 5 and Weapon Upgrades 5 to fit this Can take a lot of damage, and can also deal a lot of damage. I found that with 6 * Ion Blasters the boat simply wasn't doing enough damage, especially against a hardened cap-sucking Raven; you simply ran out of capacitor before their combined shields and armour were down. Once I added the Neutrons the damage-ouput was a lot nicer, close to 7 Ions damage-wise. Just today I got this (although ironically, not with a Neutron!): [ 2004.05.21 13:51:11 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Anode Mega Ion Particle Cannon I perfectly strikes Full2 [FIGH], wrecking for 933.4 damage. Anyway, hope this helps those looking for a setup with the changes. thats a nice set-up but i think i would replace the 2 nuetrons with 1 more Ion and 2 heavy nos's. everything else is pretty much what i like to use ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming....
Dash Ripcock	Posted - 2004.05.25 13:43:00 - [353] Edited by: Dash Ripcock on 25/05/2004 13:45:47 Originally by: OmegaTron Originally by: Dash Ripcock Thought I would post a setup that is in-line with the changes on Chaos: High 4 * Ion Blasters 2 * Neutron Blasters Medium 1 * MWD 1 * Webifier 1 * Warp Scram (7.5Km) 1 * Cap Booster w/ 800s Low 3 * Hardeners (Exp/Kin/Therm) 1 * Large Armour Repairer 3 * Mag Stab IIs You will need Engineering 5, Electronics 5 and Weapon Upgrades 5 to fit this Can take a lot of damage, and can also deal a lot of damage. I found that with 6 * Ion Blasters the boat simply wasn't doing enough damage, especially against a hardened cap-sucking Raven; you simply ran out of capacitor before their combined shields and armour were down. Once I added the Neutrons the damage-ouput was a lot nicer, close to 7 Ions damage-wise. Just today I got this (although ironically, not with a Neutron!): [ 2004.05.21 13:51:11 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Anode Mega Ion Particle Cannon I perfectly strikes Full2 [FIGH], wrecking for 933.4 damage. Anyway, hope this helps those looking for a setup with the changes. thats a nice set-up but i think i would replace the 2 nuetrons with 1 more Ion and 2 heavy nos's. everything else is pretty much what i like to use Sounds interesting, might give that a look-in. Battle Angels Inc - The Movie
Takrolimus	Posted - 2004.05.26 23:35:00 - [354] Any updates to this? I've been testing megathrons on chaos last few nights and I have been totally owned by just about everyone. I have read this whole thread carefully more than once. Apocs draining my cap, Ravens shield tanking and launching torps (no way to stop em anymore too fast for sb) I just cannot do enough damage before I am owned or run out of cap. I have not tried armor tanking but the scary thing is I cannot even do enough damage with full out offense (neutrons and dam mods) to take out these pilots. I only use stock modules on chaos to try and simulate TQ so I know that may be the problem since so many people load up with crazy **** on chaos. I have not yet tried heavy nosferatu's but that would seem only to be helpful to save enough cap to armor or shield tank.
Dash Ripcock	Posted - 2004.05.27 07:43:00 - [355] Originally by: Takrolimus Any updates to this? I've been testing megathrons on chaos last few nights and I have been totally owned by just about everyone. I have read this whole thread carefully more than once. Apocs draining my cap, Ravens shield tanking and launching torps (no way to stop em anymore too fast for sb) I just cannot do enough damage before I am owned or run out of cap. I have not tried armor tanking but the scary thing is I cannot even do enough damage with full out offense (neutrons and dam mods) to take out these pilots. I only use stock modules on chaos to try and simulate TQ so I know that may be the problem since so many people load up with crazy **** on chaos. I have not yet tried heavy nosferatu's but that would seem only to be helpful to save enough cap to armor or shield tank. Have you tried the set-ups both Omega and myself have put up? It's interesting you should say that, because initially I was getting the snot kicked out of me - just make sure you keep your ship at optimal (5Km about) and try and keep the lateral movement to a minimum to maximise the damage on your guns. Since using the setup I posted above, and after following some basic what-to-do-in-a-blaster-boat tactics, I haven't lost a one on one yet on Chaos (just make sure you have 8 * 800 charges in your hold). Hope this helps Battle Angels Inc - The Movie
OmegaTron	Posted - 2004.05.27 12:15:00 - [356] Originally by: Takrolimus Any updates to this? I've been testing megathrons on chaos last few nights and I have been totally owned by just about everyone. I have read this whole thread carefully more than once. Apocs draining my cap, Ravens shield tanking and launching torps (no way to stop em anymore too fast for sb) I just cannot do enough damage before I am owned or run out of cap. I have not tried armor tanking but the scary thing is I cannot even do enough damage with full out offense (neutrons and dam mods) to take out these pilots. I only use stock modules on chaos to try and simulate TQ so I know that may be the problem since so many people load up with crazy **** on chaos. I have not yet tried heavy nosferatu's but that would seem only to be helpful to save enough cap to armor or shield tank. Skills also play a HUGE role in combat m8. what are your gallente skills at(L Hybridlvl, BSlvl, Electlvl, Englvl, Weapon Upg.lvl, Sugical Str.lvl, Motion Predic.lvl ect.ect.) all these playe a huge role and if there not lvl4-5 then there is one of your biggest problems. ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming....
mr brown	Posted - 2004.06.01 21:50:00 - [357] just a bump, bought me a mega today. Cant wait to try out these great setups.
Alowishus	Posted - 2004.06.02 01:33:00 - [358] Initially I would try this and add Armor tanking as needed. The 7th Ion Blaster should outdamage any 4/2 Ion/Nuet setup. This setup assumes level 5 engineering, electronics and weapon upgrades. Yep, the PDU is required to fit it, an CPR won't work. The idea? Blow your enemy up before he blows you up and keep the cap injectors flowing. 7x Ion Blaster Cannon 1x Medium Nos 1x 100MN MWD 1x Warp Scrambler 1x Cap Recharger 1x Heavy Cap Booster 2x Damage Mod 1x Large Armor Repairer 1x Kinetic Plate 1x Explosive Plate 1x Thermal Plate 1x PDU Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
Takrolimus	Posted - 2004.06.03 13:22:00 - [359] Finally started to win some fights in chaos :) 6 electrons, 2 nosf (even medium ain't bad) med, web, ws, heavy cap booster (this is the bane of my life but its needed) LAR, 2 hardeners, 1600 plates, 2 damage mods I think with 4 heavy nosf you can keep up with the cap drain of the repairer but won't be doing much damage. But I guess you will wear the other guy out in the end. But that is not the type of fighting I chose the megathron for :( They are all fights of attrition. I am just about always out of cap charges at the end and this bothers me. I have yet to meet someone whom I can just blow through their defenses since everyone on chaos is using tanking setups. Roaming through enemy territory on TQ with a meager 8 booster charges in my hold is not something I look forward to. On Chaos I have to dock after every battle to rearm. Although I learned a little trick for regenerating cap using a drone or two and my vampires that helps after a battle :) Considering there are so few pure 1v1's on TQ (with both people ready and willing to fight like on Chaos) I am starting to think going all out damage with some support ships is the way I will go on TQ. Unless they greatly reduce the size of booster charges.
OmegaTron	Posted - 2004.06.06 12:09:00 - [360] You have obviously learnt alot on Chaos m8 :) and the drone- tactic idea is a good one. I haven't been on Chaos lately cause that patch problem and have been to lazy to redownlaod Eve again. My next Q to all is what are u loading your Mega out with now on Chaos to get ready for the next big patch Like i said above i haven't been on Chaos in awhile i think the last time i was on was patch 1513 if i remember correct. But ne ways i would like to know whats the basic short and long set ups on Chaos? ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming....



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