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GndAdmiralThrawn
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Posted - 2007.06.19 03:50:00 -
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Hey everyone! I had an idea for a project using the EVE SDK.
I sell a lot of stuff on EVE and find myself constantly going online to check on my balance and sell orders.
So, I'm thinking about creating a program for mobile phones that will allow:
-Access to main character stats (currently training skill, wallet balance, etc.)
-Transaction logs
-Account Journal
For both the character and any corp wallets they have access to. I'm going to be getting a nokia e90 very soon which will work excellently with this.
I want your thoughts before I embark on this project. I may make it a Series 60 C++ program or might make it in Java which would allow for use on more phones (supposedly).
Please give me ANY thoughts or suggestions you might have for this program or just post and voice your support so I'll have some more motivation to take the time to get this done.
Thanks!
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Sandra Last
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Posted - 2007.06.19 05:35:00 -
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what EVE SDK are you talking about?
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Dronte
Minmatar
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.19 06:04:00 -
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Think he means the new EVE API which will be launched Thursday hopefully
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GndAdmiralThrawn
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Posted - 2007.06.19 15:58:00 -
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Yes, I meant the API. My bad!
But what do you think about the idea?
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maltari
Caldari
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.06.19 19:09:00 -
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Just a thought/suggestion: make that opensource, and get some people to vouch for you. Check out the EVE API discussion thread, no one in his right mind will trust a closed source program to access his wallet info/transaction logs info IMHO...
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WileyCoyote
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Posted - 2007.06.19 19:17:00 -
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I have no problem making it open sourced. There are 3 possible methods here:
1) Purely web based using a form and cookies to store your information.
2) Java based local application
3) C++ Symbian Series 60 application
Not sure what route I'm going to take. I don't know Java very well but I do know PHP and C++ so it will probably be the other two. The problem then is that the C++ version won't run on many phones and the web version would require submitting your APIKey to my server (which I want to avoid at all costs).
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Erlad
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:37:00 -
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A web version should work on anything and I can only see advantages to that approach... Why do you not want to submit the APIKey to your server?
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Ki Shodan
Gallente
deep blue
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Erlad
A web version should work on anything and I can only see advantages to that approach... Why do you not want to submit the APIKey to your server?
Because of trust reasons, an malicious admin could use the data, that can be obtained thru the API for his personal gain. (eg. finding your secret traderoutes, spoting opportunities etc.)
Further if you are director or accountant of a bigger corp, the bad admin could get an up-to-date memberlist of your corp (making hunting your corp down quite easy) and use or sell that info.
Further the bad admin could check out what your corp is selling/buying and again could take advantage of that.
If you see how vicious certain alliance wars are fougth IN and OUT OF game, for such a kind of information there would be a huge market!
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Ki Shodan
Gallente
deep blue
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: GndAdmiralThrawn
Please give me ANY thoughts or suggestions you might have for this program or just post and voice your support so I'll have some more motivation to take the time to get this done.
I would be in on an opensource PHP-based webproject, that you can install on your own server or webspace, so we don't have trust issues with a foreign website or application.
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orangeFool
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Posted - 2007.06.20 16:34:00 -
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You'd definitely have your work cut out writing a Symbian app (unless you are already a pro developer on that platform) so if you fancied something more simple go for Java MIDP2.
You wouldn't need to get it Java signed and can give the source code away for people to play with in free tools such as SonyEricssons ktoolbar (desktop emulator/builder) or Sun's own WTK emulator/builder (both free). No signing means that the phone will pop up "application wants to access the internet" prompts but thats probably a good thing because at least people would see that the app is about to hit the web.
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WileyCoyote
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: WileyCoyote on 21/06/2007 22:08:06
Here's a proof of concept using a PHP script retrieving a locally stored CSV file:
http://www.gsibble.net/eve/journal.php
I think it looks pretty damn good! Too wide for most phones, but perfect for my communicator.
I really don't like the restrictions on how frequently you can access these things......I thought the idea was that we could have up to the minute updates on balance and other information.
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Glengrant
Minmatar
TOHA Heavy Industries
FROST Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.22 00:46:00 -
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I recommend Python.
Very easy to learn if you know languages like C++ and Java - yet very powerful. Faster startup than Java.
And yes - also available on S60:
http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/pythonfors60/
I used to write C/C++ and Java - now I do most stuff in Pyrhon. If somethung needs speed opimization you can always create a C/C++ extension module forsyts Python (not hard).
Check it out - a competent programmer will grasp the core language in 30 minutes or so.
CCP used the stackless variant for Eve.
Web based would be the most portable solution of course - but a client app would allow nicer integration on phone. And people wouldn't have to set up their own web server (and using somebody elses is out of the question as mentioned above).
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