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St Elsewhere
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Posted - 2007.06.19 17:42:00 -
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Hi All
Could do with some advice on my Abaddon setup. Im really struggling doing level 3 missions and i shouldnt be! I have what i thought was decent skills, decent weapons and tanking ability. It seems i am sorely mistaken.
My skills are: http://ineve.net/skills/character.php?charID=Mzg1ODU3NDQz
From memory i have 4 Large Energy Beams, 2 Medium and 2 Heavy Missile Launchers. Mids i have a couple of shield hardners for the NPC, AB and a cap recharger. Lows 3 PDUs, Damage Control, Inertia Stabs and a Large Armor repairer.
The mission that really annoyed me after putting up with this for a while was "The Spy Stash" i was in there for 40 minutes and got maybe 4 ships, i just couldnt hit them. One of the "Elite" ships i pounded with everything and i barely scratched the ****!
I finally got stressed i loaded up my alt, flew in his Navy Mega and pwned the lot in under 15 mins.
Surely my Abaddon should be better than this? Please help me, im getting hacked off with it! Ive not yet tried a solo level 4 and i really want to boost my LP!!
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
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Posted - 2007.06.19 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: St Elsewhere I finally got stressed i loaded up my alt, flew in his Navy Mega and pwned the lot in under 15 mins.
So you own a Navy Mega and yet...
Originally by: St Elsewhere From memory i have 4 Large Energy Beams, 2 Medium and 2 Heavy Missile Launchers. Mids i have a couple of shield hardners for the NPC, AB and a cap recharger. Lows 3 PDUs, Damage Control, Inertia Stabs and a Large Armor repairer.
Put a fitting onto your Abaddon that is so horrible that I am at a loss for words? Not to mention your apparent total lack of clue concerning tanking, damage types and tracking...
Learn to play BEFORE you get those big toys.
A few hints:
- Shield hardeners and an armor repairer don't supplement each other very well. - L3s can generally be done faster in BCs than in BS (Exception: Dominix). - An Abaddon armortanks. - Mixing different weapon sizes and even types is baaaaad. - Tracking computers work wonders with large lasers. - ebay is bad for my mental health.
Thank you SkyFlyer!
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Lore Isander
Caldari Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.19 17:57:00 -
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Dont feed the troll... ---
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St Elsewhere
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Posted - 2007.06.19 17:58:00 -
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Thanks for the advice....
I will admit im a noob, hence why im asking for advice! I admit i have very few skills in knowing what i need, again which is why im asking :)
Please do suggest a better setup for me, i will be forever in your debt.
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TVPR
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Posted - 2007.06.19 18:02:00 -
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Edited by: TVPR on 19/06/2007 18:01:44 First off, your skills really don't match what I'd call sane for flying an Abaddon, or even any BS. I was at twice your SP's when I first hopped into a big ship, and adding to that, almost half of yours are in non-combat skills...
Get quickfit while we've got Patch Day, and load your skills into that. Then experiment with various fittings to get a good damage output, and use it to figure out what skills to go for next. For one, with your missile skills, you don't want to waste fitting space on launchers - get bigger lazors instead. My 2c...
Ed: Geh, typo.
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St Elsewhere
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Posted - 2007.06.19 18:06:00 -
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Here what your saying with the skills, i need to learn to walk before i can fly. Im just very impatient.
With regards to the Missiles, that was the only thing that was really doing any damage to any of the ships. That and my drones with a few lucky hits from my lasers was all i had.
I am really that poorly skilled for level 3 or 4s ? Depressing, but true i guess.
At range its awesome, BCs/BSs at range i can pwn so fast, small, fast and close up targets i have not a chance!
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Dokar Durinia
Amarr Cabal kaBob EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.06.19 18:07:00 -
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might want to check out this thread:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=470264
for mission running ideas.
and yes, armor tank + tracking + drones are FTW.
btw, abad only has 1 launcher point, so you're either remembering wrong, or making it all up. ;)
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St Elsewhere
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Posted - 2007.06.19 18:10:00 -
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I am getting confused with the Apoc i have, i have 2 launcher points on that and did fit two missile launchers. Dont use that any more, i swapped to the abaddon.
Newho, all good ideas and i will try quickfit again, confused the crap out of me first time so i need to spend some time with it.
Also regarding the Lazers, i have Tachyon Modulated ones, ones that i thought would do the best damage for me. I think i was around the 120 DPS last time i tried QuickFit may have to load it all up again and try.
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Lrrp
Minmatar Gallente Mercantile Exchange
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Posted - 2007.06.19 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Lrrp on 19/06/2007 18:11:43 First of all, lvl 3's are best for battle cruisers. You are falling into the trap of thinking just because you can drive a battleship, that you can pilot it. My suggestion is to get a BC and skill up everything appropriate to it to lvl 4. Once you do that, then start skilling up for BS's. Since you will already have the skills to protect the hull, you can concentrat on getting weapon skills to at least lv3...preferably lvl 4. Then and only then start flying your BS.
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Velociter
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Posted - 2007.06.19 18:16:00 -
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I have a BC in my Assets, Harbinger i think. Ive never used it as i did fall into that trap and think just because i can use a BS, i can use it well. It seems not.
From reading limited posts about tanking properly, and i right in thinking that for mids i should use an AB and some cap rechargers and for lows a couple of armor reps and hardners for the respective NPCS?
If anywhere, is that a good place to start?
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St Elsewhere
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Posted - 2007.06.19 18:17:00 -
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Bah, thats my alt :/
Should be my main really as he has 3 times the SPs as i do, but i bought him to train up and sell for a profit :)
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Ulric Denrai
Amarr Glass House
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Posted - 2007.06.19 18:31:00 -
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Don`t use shields on a amarr BS
High 8 mega puls Meds Tracking comp ,and 4 cap rechargers. Lows A med repper and a large repper.The rest harderners and a heatsink .
This just a basic fitting ,works allways.best fitted with 3 cap riggs. But a Apoc is better for missions,Abaddon is hmm easier to fit but thats all .
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St Elsewhere
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Posted - 2007.06.19 18:52:00 -
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Thanks for the advice Ulric, loaded that setup into QuickFit (need about 12 days training to use it all)
DPS was just under 190, cap however was dead after 130 seconds. That doesnt seem to good at all :)
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Loathing Blackblade
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Posted - 2007.06.19 19:01:00 -
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Might I suggest:
Abaddon Thread One Abaddon Thread Two Abaddon Thread Three
The current spec I use is something like this:
High Slots 8x Mega Pulse Lasers II (Multi and Infrared only, cause im lazy)
Mid Slots 4x Capacitor Rechargers II
Low Slots 1x Large Armor Rep II 2x Heat Sink II 2x EM Armor Hardner (named - I cant use t2 ones yet) 2x Thermic Armor Hardner (named - cant use t2 yet)
This setup works best with amarr agents who send me against Gurista and Sansha enemies, but if I get others I just need to switched out the hardner types for others. Cap is a bit of a problem, but I can last for 10min+ if I toggle the Armor Rep on and off instead of just letting it run.
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Sergis
Caldari Life Extermination Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2007.06.19 19:16:00 -
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Sigh... I dont mean to be...well... mean but that must be one of the worst abaddon setups I have every heard of second to the :
1 Citadel Launcher
4 XL shield extenders
7 RCU II
you might wanna go with the previous posts setup. Or think of maybe sticking to lvl 3 missions until u get more than 1 mil SPs. Also, buying money is not the way to go in eve because it gives you the wrong sense of value. <1mil SP alt + Mega navy issue ftw... --- Evil Thug [RAT.]<.-A-.> hits you, doing 24601.0 damage. |
St Elsewhere
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Posted - 2007.06.19 19:57:00 -
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Edited by: St Elsewhere on 19/06/2007 19:56:31 Edited by: St Elsewhere on 19/06/2007 19:56:25 Thanks for the threads, like tanking i should learn to read more before doing anything really :)
Also, to the last poster is your "dont buy isk" remark at me?
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